Zachary Amaranth said:
Nimzabaat said:
It's also just a coincidence that Valve is going "what a great idea, we should think about doingthat". And people are getting excited for it because it's Valve and not Microsoft.
I hate it when I have to defend Valve.
Look, Valve and Steam do have problems, and their fanboys can be ridiculously over-the-top. However, your comparison is ridiculous in itself. You're comparing the removal of a standard model and replacement with a more limited one with the addition of a more liberal model.
Not to mention, the library sharing was the one element people really WANTED, so I don't see why the one part people liked not being surrounded by Microsoft's bullshit wouldn't be met with praise.
It's natural to want more over less. Do you not understand this concept?
I do. I really, really do. That's exactly the problem I've got with people right now. We've traded more for less. Microsoft went "do you want to be able to share your games with more people?" The answer was "no". So now we've got less instead of more and the people who chose less are trying to rationalize it by saying that we never could have gotten more and more was just a smoke screen.
By the way, If people wanted the the library sharing so badly, why did they fight so hard against it that they actually "won"? Seriously, the FSL required it to be region locked and required a regular check in so that it wasn't being abused. It was probably a hard sell from Microsoft to the game publishers to begin with. I could just see that conversation:
MS: We're putting a family shared library system into the XB1
Pub: What does that mean?
MS: Anyone in your "family" can play your games.
Pub: That sounds like it's going to negatively impact our sales.
MS: It might to a some extent, but we're limiting the family size to 10.
Pub: What about different governments legislation about video games?
MS: Well it'll have to be region locked so that we don't get banned anywhere. It may take some negotiating.
Pub: So any "family" member can play any game at any time?
MS: As long as only one person is playing it.
Pub: That sounds like a 90% loss in sales, i'm not sure we can get on board with that.
MS: I wouldn't worry too much. It'd take a really coordinated group of friends to get the most out of it. Besides, if we get more interest in digital sales we can drop prices and the consumers will love that.
Pub: What if they just added a whole bunch of "family" and then played offline?
MS: We'll have to get the console to check in regularly so that doesn't happen.
Pub: I don't know about this, but I guess if we want any sales we'll have to agree.
AFTER
MS: Guess what? Forget about what we talked about. People are stupid.
Pub: Wait, what?
MS: Yup. People are really, really, stupid. They didn't want the FSL after all.
Pub: Seriously?
MS: Yup.
TLDR: I understand that more is better than less. I don't understand why people chose less. Gamers chose to have the FSL removed.