Adorable 3 Year-Old Experiences Harsh Justice in Skyrim
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The kid is 3 years old, so seeing as it'll be a few years before she could so much as read those magazines, or pick up anything lasting from television I'm not seeing that it's a valid argument.Myrph said:
Actually I did read it. The way you can tell that I read it is that I quoted that part about the 'family of gamers'. I also read the obligatory disclaimer by the parent that always accompanies youtube vids of kids doing age-innapropriate things. Doesn't mean I believed it or agreed with it.The Random One said:
Sorry, but the idea that a violent M rated RPG that sometimes has consequences is a good learning tool for a 3 year old is nonsense and wishful thinking. May as well say that GTA teaches you that the cops will arrest you if you embark on a random shooting spree or run someone over.
The cynic in me says that this story is getting an easy ride because it's Skyrim and half of the Escapist is currently infatuated with Skyrim. If it was GTA or CoD it'd be a different story, I suspect.
i feel a disturbance in the force and it's almost like it's fox news related.
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well she learned hurting people is bad or as she simply put "people don't want to be sworded".
a child understand the difference between reality and fantasy matter more then the age rating of a game. that being said age 3 is a wee bit young for skyrim. i mean it has blood and violence at least wait till there older like 10
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well she learned hurting people is bad or as she simply put "people don't want to be sworded".
a child understand the difference between reality and fantasy matter more then the age rating of a game. that being said age 3 is a wee bit young for skyrim. i mean it has blood and violence at least wait till there older like 10
I will admit I was feeling the creepies watching this at first, but her comment at the end sold it for me. She genuinely came out of that having learned something on consequences. This girl will go far, beyond just cuteness alone.
i don't want to be THAT guy, but i'm not convinced she was actually playing... i think it might have been the dad. first of all, her command "sword him" seemed aimed at an external person, not a command to herself, but the most damning...
watch the video, pause it when you see the controller, 0:23 was a good time for me, i don't see the ring of light on the controller lit at all...
watch the video, pause it when you see the controller, 0:23 was a good time for me, i don't see the ring of light on the controller lit at all...
I fail to see how this is an either-or proposition.Myrph said:
Well, Grand Theft Auto maybe. If it were Call of Duty it would probably be more about people saying her parents have bad taste in games.Sixcess said:
"People don't want to be sword"
Thats powerful zen wisdom right there. I want that on a t-shirt, so I can wear it while meditating on a rock
Thats powerful zen wisdom right there. I want that on a t-shirt, so I can wear it while meditating on a rock
YES OH GREAT SENSEI, please tell us how to properly raise children. We've honestly just been guessing up till now.Sixcess said:
Well, I've learned a valuable lesson: People don't want to be sworded.
Its a valuable life lesson, I'm serious. The idea of resorting to swording a person just to get them out of my way is just terrible. Props to you, Carl Douglas! Fellow gamer and smart father!
Its a valuable life lesson, I'm serious. The idea of resorting to swording a person just to get them out of my way is just terrible. Props to you, Carl Douglas! Fellow gamer and smart father!
You may have a point if the child was alone with the game. Fortunately, she was not, and it is clear that the father was not only supervising but went on to clarify with the child her experiences afterwards.Sixcess said:
This is what people mean when they talk about good parenting. It's not about shielding the child from the (inevitable) experiences of the world, it's about guiding them through it. For instance, if she had come up with the wrong lesson from her experience (for instance, being upset at the guards for ruining things for her), then it's the parent's job to step in and correct that behavior.
Your counterexamples are also a bit heavy-handed. No one is claiming that all M-rated games are acceptable; on the contrary, in order to prove the strong version of your argument, you need to show that no M-rated games are acceptable. (I don't think anyone expects that - just be careful and clear about your claims, or risk being misunderstood.)
Moreover, there are key differences between your examples and Skyrim. Skyrim is a game where much of the player's actions are based solely on their own agency, with very little to no suggestion. She chose to "sword" the guy based on her own will, through no direction given by the game (or her father, so at all really), and so the punishment was hers and hers alone to bear. Contrasting to this, in Call of Duty, it is impossible to not play as a soldier who is directed to kill enemy combatants, with impunity and without remorse. That is, this can lead to difficult parenting situations (even via mere observation); e.g., "Daddy, why are you shooting those guys?" is much easier to explain in the context given by Skyrim than the context given by Call of Duty. Really, it's more about context than content.
(Meanwhile, GTA is a more complex example; on one hand, it's theoretically possible to end up with the same situation of crime-and-punishment and the lesson learned, on the other hand, there's a button to take peoples' cars, which is barely punished by the game, if at all - which is a huge crime in real life. In practice, I believe its surreal nature is so far removed from our own reality that it would be difficult to reconcile the game actions and real life actions, especially given the pervasive nature of crime without punishment in the game. In any event it doesn't pass the, "Why?" test, above.)
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"You need to leave."
"NOO!!"
Well, there goes my headphones. Dx
That was pretty damn adorable, though.
"NOO!!"
Well, there goes my headphones. Dx
That was pretty damn adorable, though.
Parenting done well. Though I personally probably would not allow a 3 year old to play games like Skyrim; the father clearly seems responsible enough to correctly judge what he feels is appropriate for his child. All the while getting a vital moral lesson across about the conciquences of using violence in real life. Now if more parents did this type of thing instead of lobbying governments to remove anything that could possibly harm the fragile minds of the children because they cannot be bothered to monitor this stuff themselves, the world would be a better place.