You realize that saying "I don't like them cause they don't make console games like they do pc games" Is just as silly as the arguments that people are just fanboys. As a PC centric person I love valve, not just because they make fantastic games, but because they do things on the pc that are pretty much impossible on consoles just because of restrictions, not tech issues. Portal 2 ps3 was AWESOME and it is bridging the gap between pc and console experiences.Gorilla Gunk said:This may sound kind of backwards, and it is, but while I like their games, as developers they wouldn't be in my Top 5.
This is mostly because they just don't seem to know how to make a console game if their lives depended on it. Sure Valve's PC releases are great and all (Although I know quite a few people that say TF2 is a pile of shit now), but their (they're?) console release record is pretty damn spotty.
Yes, I know, Microsofts update/DLC policies are kind of shit. But when you can't even get a map pack out, that's pretty sad. What really annoys me is that for years they've been pointing the finger at Microsoft (And Sony) going "It's not us! It's them! They won't let us!" whilst other, more competent developers are able to get out a ton of DLC with little fuss. I mean, they announced the next bit of DLC for L4D2 around January. And it's not like they're building entirely new maps, they're just porting some old L4D1 maps. Any other developer could have knocked that out in a few short months. How is it other developers like Bethesda and Gearbox and even Infinity Ward/Treyarch are dependent enough to get out a good amount of DLC and updates for their games yet Valve can only get out, what? 2 bits of DLC for L4D2? Over almost two years? Both using the exact same last map to boot!
I've tried to criticism Valve in the past and am usually met with a tidal wave of hate because "They made Steam!" or "They made Half-Life/TF2/Portal!" Everybody seems to give them a free pass and I just find it shameful.
You criticize them for dlc on console... yeah, I see your point, but they don't want to charge, and so they don't develop for a system that they don't want to charge people. I am sure they also think along the lines of not splitting the community.
I see your point, but I think you may be overreacting