Amazon Refuses to Sell SimCity

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Amazon Refuses to Sell SimCity

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Electronic Arts denies reports that SimCity owners pushing for refunds will be banned from Origin, but now Amazon is refusing to sell it anyway.

Update: It appears that, for the moment anyway, Amazon has put the digital version of SimCity up for sale once again.

Original story: Reports began circulating earlier today that Electronic Arts is refusing to offer refunds to owners of SimCity because despite the unmitigated debacle of the game's launch, the situation does not constitute "exceptional circumstances" and thus does not qualify. That's bad enough, but worse were reports that customers were being threatened with Origin account bans for pushing for refunds.

EA has just stated through the Origin Twitter account that those reports are false, however. "Regarding a rumor: We will not ban players for requesting refunds. Please review our returns & cancellations policy," the company wrote, providing a link to the policy that you can check out here [https://help.ea.com/article/returns-and-cancellations].

Based on screens [http://i.imgur.com/K3KFAI3.jpg] of the conversation that apparently started the rumor, the customer in question was threatened with a ban not for requesting a refund but for suggesting that he would stop payment to Origin through his bank. It's unfortunate that someone would find himself in a position where that course of action feels necessary and the right and wrong of EA's refusal to issue SimCity refunds is certainly open to debate, but it's not unreasonable of the company to cancel accounts belonging to people who refuse to pay.

The good news, sort of, is that Amazon is doing its part to spare other gamers from getting caught up in the SimCity train wreck by pulling the game from distribution. "Many customers are having issues connecting to the SimCity servers. EA is actively working to resolve these issues, but at this time we do not know when the issue will be fixed," it wrote in a warning to customers. The game is now listed as "currently unavailable," and Amazon says it doesn't know "when or if this item will be available again."

Sources: Amazon [http://www.develop-online.net/news/43465/EA-refusing-refunds-over-SimCity-server-woes]


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Falterfire

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Not gonna lie, I'm kinda sad to see this happen to the SimCity franchise. I'm actually a fan of 'simpler' and 'dumbed down' sequels like XCOM:Enemy Unknown and Civilization V that make it easier to get into those ridiculously complex franchises that are difficult to understand for new players. I had kinda hoped the new SimCity would do that for its franchise, but instead this happens.

Ah well, back to Civ V I guess. Glad I didn't preorder.
 

Mike the Bard

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I feel for those guys trying to get their money back from EA. They're quite willing to take your money, but are quite stingy about giving it back even if you have a legitimate reason.
 

PunkRex

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Wow, ive heard a few rumors about this SimCity mess, heres hoping we can at least get a few chuckles out of it. *Looks at Jimquisition and CheckPoint*
 

Colt47

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Sgt. Sykes said:
Smart choice of words, EA.

Maybe they won't ban users for REQUESTING a refund, but if the user blocks the payment for a defective product, they will be banned for sure.

Moral of the story: Don't buy online games, don't buy games with online DRM, don't buy games that require an online service.
Pretty much. They wont ban people for requesting a refund, but they certainly don't have to give one.
 

Church185

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It is worth nothing that the image circulating is of a forum post by the accusing party not of a customer service chat window, the conversation could have been doctored before it was posted.

http://i.imgur.com/K3KFAI3.jpg
 

Diablo1099_v1legacy

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"[...]Anything else I can assist you with?"
"This Chat text goes viral"
"Thanks"

Poor bastard, he'd just GOT to be fired by this point in time...
 

Abomination

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Any other product would have a return policy within the first 48 hours of use, especially if the customer is unable to use the product - no matter what.
 

Hitchmeister

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Actually, EA is being quite reasonable about giving refunds to people who ask for them in a reasonable manner. But nobody wants to hear that.
 

Church185

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DVS BSTrD said:
Now if only they would allow refunds in the first place.
People have said on the other thread that they haven't had any problems returning the game. I believe that customer service conversation is fake or a misunderstanding.
 

CriticalMiss

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So even Amazon, the tax-dodging moneybags that they are, don't like EA? This is becoming a soap opera. Popcorn. ACTIVATE!
 

Church185

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Hitchmeister said:
Actually, EA is being quite reasonable about giving refunds to people who ask for them in a reasonable manner. But nobody wants to hear that.
Seriously, I'm all for dishing out hate when hate is due, but when people see EA in a headline they lose their minds.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Colt47 said:
Sgt. Sykes said:
Smart choice of words, EA.

Maybe they won't ban users for REQUESTING a refund, but if the user blocks the payment for a defective product, they will be banned for sure.

Moral of the story: Don't buy online games, don't buy games with online DRM, don't buy games that require an online service.
Pretty much. They wont ban people for requesting a refund, but they certainly don't have to give one.
Well, in a number of countries outside the US they do. Consumer protection laws actually exist in the rest of the world.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Well I'm glad this is not the case and the incident was blown out of proportion, but needless to say the Sim City release has been a complete PR disaster for EA. Even a major online retailer is now coming out to pull the game from it's service because the connection issues. Though that may be a blessing of some kind, if big retailers like Amazon are willing to pull games that have connection issues like Sim City, publishers may be discouraged from using similar DRM schemes in case they run into Sim City/Diablo III issues and get their game pulled from retailers.

captcha: dog's dinner. Well said captcha.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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But on the other hand, if you'd like a copy of the original Simcity, you can buy it Like-New on Amazon- for a rediculous price, that is.
 

Colt47

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Colt47 said:
Sgt. Sykes said:
Smart choice of words, EA.

Maybe they won't ban users for REQUESTING a refund, but if the user blocks the payment for a defective product, they will be banned for sure.

Moral of the story: Don't buy online games, don't buy games with online DRM, don't buy games that require an online service.
Pretty much. They wont ban people for requesting a refund, but they certainly don't have to give one.
Well, in a number of countries outside the US they do. Consumer protection laws actually exist in the rest of the world.
Dang it, stop making me wish we had actual intelligence in our Government System.