- Jun 8, 2011
I thought Garfield did a great job as spider-man but I prefer Ultimate SPider-man so what do I know right?
You have to hand it to Garfield for doing his damn hardest to make the most out of what he's given, but when a lot of it is taken away from him, that's gotta sting.Zachary Amaranth said:Well, what would he say? "I'm Spider-Man, it's my fault."
I sort of expected something about editorial mandate or the like, but some of the stuff from the original cut that made it to bonus scenes didn't make it look like a better movie. Maybe it would have popped if it was all included, but I doubt it.
But you know what? I had fun with it. It was worth my money. And even at its worst, I'd watch it over the Raimi films.
The interview was published yesterday. You wouldn't have some kind of... "anti-bob" bias now, would you?youji itami said:Oh come on! it's been 4 months get over it Bob.
You complain about people screaming bias at you then ***** at a film you didn't like 4 months later!
You can be a cool, likable hipster guy whilst also being into science. That basically describes me in fact. You can be awkward and considered an outcast and liked at school, but also be charming when people get to know you (like Peter's aunt and uncle, and Gwen). I think the new Peter is just a modern interpretation of the outcast type character than the original Spider-Man was.VoidWanderer said:Wait a second!endtherapture said:Bob doesn't like this Spider-Man because he is a cool skater hipster Tumblr guy, and is good looking and charming despite being fairly socially awkward. Bob is rooted in his GenX days so doesn't understand they need to update the character for the time, and resents the fact that whilst Garfield's Peter is a bit of an outlier in School, he's not the super nerdy science geeky being bullied type character that Bob is used to.piscian said:Garfield was the only good thing about this series in mind. It's surprising how much people disliked him. I agree with what he said there are great parts of AZM 1 and 2 but they both felt like edward scissorhands was the editor. Like huge chunks of the movies don't make any sense or have the impact they should have with the audience because things are missing or told in the wrong order.
TASM1 was pretty good though, fun film, great cast and chemistry. TASM2 was a horrible mess of plot contrivances, poor pacing and bad chemistry.
Cool skater hipster Tumblr guy who is good looking (personal preferences) and charming DESPITE socially awkward? There is a likable person under that?
I have seen both ASM films and the original movies, and honestly I felt ASM Parker was just as awkward as the plot logic...
While I had no real objection to them rebooting the series, I felt that as a character Peter was unlikable. He acted like an ass to the people who literally raised him since his parents vanished. We never really see him use his skateboard apart from that weird training thing that felt like an ad for a Tony Hawk game. The only part that made me like Peter was when he stood up for the kid that Flash was bullying.
If he is not mend to be super sciency, how did he come up with the launcher for his store bought webbing, and why is it mentioned that he is the second smartest person in school... It felt so inconsistent with them trying to pay homage to the characters origins in the comics and movies while trying to make their own version of him.
In regards to Moviebobs opinions, I agree with him, the movies are a mess. Virtually every plot thread ties back to the Oscorp, including Spidey's gadgets. The character Peter is not a likable underdog, but the shy pup at the pound that no-one wants to adopt.
I have said this before and I will say it again, Sony should sell Spider-Man back to Marvel so they can save this slow-motion train-wreck.
If you guys have different views on the character, I am happy for you. But I found the movies and almost everything relating to them a mess.
What's makes this even more ridiculous is the "super nerdy science geeky being bullied type character" as you put it is in the comics and most adaptions something that Peter is like early on and that he quickly grows out of after he gets powers, and that's if he's even like that to begin with. This view fans typically have of Peter being like you said is hilariously inaccurate in most depictions of the character. The Raimi Spider-Man movies are probably one of the only adaptions that stick with the characteristics you mentioned the entire run, probably because that Peter has as much character development past the first movie as a rock.endtherapture said:Bob doesn't like this Spider-Man because he is a cool skater hipster Tumblr guy, and is good looking and charming despite being fairly socially awkward. Bob is rooted in his GenX days so doesn't understand they need to update the character for the time, and resents the fact that whilst Garfield's Peter is a bit of an outlier in School, he's not the super nerdy science geeky being bullied type character that Bob is used to.
Very true, both ASM1 and ASM2 are brilliant movies. They're not perfect, but the few problems it does have are the ones most comic book movies and in fact the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies themselves had that nobody seemed to notice or care about when THEY did it. It's actually pretty ridiculous the rather tiny nitpicky things that people that hate the movie tend to bring up and how incredibly big of a deal they make of them.TKretts3 said:I thought ASM2 was pretty good. There were a few things that could have been done better, but it was still good - certainly not as horrendous as some reviewers had led me to believe it would be. I saw Bob's review around the time the film came out in theaters, and based on that I decided to wait for it to be out on DVD. After watching it on DVD, though, I regretted that decision because almost nothing Bob said in his review, in my opinion, turned out to be true. The things that did were heavily overblown.
I went to the Rochester Institute of Technology in New York. Everybody there were tech nerds and art geeks. Everybody skateboarded getting to and fro on campus.endtherapture said:... But then he skateboards off cuz that's what kids these days do...in the 90s. I seriously never see people skateboarding any more outside of the occasional longboard.