Anonymous Exacts Revenge for Megaupload Takedown

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Anonymous Exacts Revenge for Megaupload Takedown


Hacker collective Anonymous has taken down websites belonging to the Department of Justice, RIAA, MPAA and Universal music in response to the recent shutdown of Megaupload.

Shortly after popular file-sharing site, Megaupload, was shut down in a federal bust [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115362-Feds-Take-Down-Megaupload], Anonymous gathered its forces for what is presumed to be a hastily-assembled DDoS attack on the Department of Justice website. Doj.gov is, at the time of this writing, down and out. RIAA.com, MPAA.org, copright.gov and the Universal Music Group's website have since been taken down as well.

Universal was recently involved in some legal shenanigans [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114751-Megaupload-Suing-Universal-Over-Pulled-YouTube-Video] with Megaupload over a video used to promote the site - a likely reason for its inclusion in the list of targets.

An Anonymous-associated Twitter account [https://twitter.com/#!/anondaily/status/160120306265100289] is claiming credit for the takedown. "One thing is certain: EXPECT US!," wrote another account claiming to speak for the group, shortly before the takedown occurred. According to Russian news service, RT, this is the largest coordinated attack in Anonymous', admittedly quite vague, history.

Anonymous, according to those that claim to represent it, has been a vocal opponent of the SOPA bill. That, combined with the recent, and in its opinion, unjustified, take down of Megaupload, has spurred the group into action. "Get some popcorn," tweeted an anonymous news source. "It's going to be a long lulzy night."

Update: Some media outlets are reporting that media label, BMI [http://www.bmi.com/], has been taken down.

Update 2: Anonymous claims [http://pastebay.com/298247] to have taken down the Utah Chiefs of Police Association website. [http://www.utahchiefs.org]

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Ldude893

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The statement 'shit just got real' doesn't even cover it.

I think this song fits the occasion perfectly:
<youtube=WJDnJ0vXUgw>
 

Kakashi on crack

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I support anonymous in this. Megaupload isn't evil... they are used quote extensively by modders* (spellchecker...)
 

The Random One

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I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
 

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All these attacks do at best is become a minor inconvenience to some people and at worst create an argument for policing the internet.

I like that they are taking some action but still what does this even do in the end?
 

Baron von Blitztank

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Well, Anonymous have now started to show up and hack the place.
It's gonna be a long and lonely night in the bomb-shelter, anyone care to join me?
 

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Omnific One said:
That's actually unsettlingly quick response time from Anon. They are obviously gaining strength.
Yeah...that's not really helping.

If Anon could do some serious damage, then it labels them as potential threats and gives the gov't an excuse to police the webs.
 

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The funniest thing about Universal's whining about Megaupload and piracy is that they wouldn't even exist without breaking the rules and stealing others ideas. Hollywood was founded because of that and now they cry when others do it.

I'm not encouraging Anonymous but I'm not encouraging Universal and others either when they "fight" piracy like that.
 

Sporky111

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I'm surprised Anon wasn't involved until now, but to be honest the Internet's doing a fine job of taking care of itself so far. At least Anon's here to do damage control.
 

ChaplainOrion

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What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?

And if anyone has a bomb shelter spot open I shall bring salty snacks.
 

AdamG3691

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so, half of the internet blacks out voluntarily yesterday, today, anon blacks out the other half :p
 

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Sporky111 said:
I'm surprised Anon wasn't involved until now, but to be honest the Internet's doing a fine job of taking care of itself so far. At least Anon's here to do damage control.
damage control ha there just pouring gas on the fire
 

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The end is beginning, my brothers and sisters! All shall be reduced to ashes! None will survive the coming storm!

 

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Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.

2. Anonymous has no discretion. And this does cover ALL of the little splinter groups calling themselves Anonymous. Like attacking Utah. What did Utah do to anyone?
 
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What's all this talk of the roof caving in and heading for the bombshelter? Take a look outside people, the sky is still there and the ICBMs haven't dropped as far as I can tell... More hyperbole, anyone?
 

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ChaplainOrion said:
What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?
You wouldn't be able to do that unless you actually knew who the people behind the DDOS were, and in that case you could just have regular law enforcement deal with them.
 
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So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
 

General Michi

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Anon are a touchy bunch, and my views on them are also touchy. It's hard to support a "group" of people whose goal is moral but methods are childish.

But in this case, what they did helps nothing, when the some US politicians want to try and pass a law that could censor the net the last thing to do is fuel their reason.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
To be fair, the Feds did shut down its sister site, Megaporn...

...so obviously things got real.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
Methinks someone hasn't been watching what Anonymous has been doing. They went dark yesterday as well.
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
Methinks someone hasn't been watching what Anonymous has been doing. They went dark yesterday as well.

Well you'd be right about that.

I don't give a toss what anon do, and DDoSing something doesn't exactly spark the thoughts of 'internet vigilantes'. Just 'internet guys with nothing better to do'.
 

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MasterOfHisOwnDomain said:
Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
To be fair, the Feds did shut down its sister site, Megaporn...

...so obviously things got real.
I agree with this eventhough I haven't been at Megaporn in a nice while yet I do remember when it was once called Megarotic. You just don't fuck with people's porn nor their money. Shit is gonna get heavy fast.
 

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And this is why you don't mess with Megaporn.
Anon, love them or hate them, I guess they are at least dealing with the loss of files (porn) in the only way they know.
"They took our porn? FIRE THE DDOS CANNON!"
 

Omnific One

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Nooners said:
Omnific One said:
That's actually unsettlingly quick response time from Anon. They are obviously gaining strength.
Yeah...that's not really helping.

If Anon could do some serious damage, then it labels them as potential threats and gives the gov't an excuse to police the webs.
Yeah, that's my worry.
 

Waaghpowa

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Oh heavens no, they took down a website. I suppose revenge is a dish best served cold.
 

Domehammer

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Probably was not best time to take down megaupload with all the tension recently. While I don't support actions taken to take down sights by Anonymous they can't be blamed entirely for actions. The government couldn't possibly have done a worse job at handling megaupload then taking it down on day of blackout protests. Honestly what were they thinking? Waiting even a week or couple of days but doing it after a protest of kind on 18th is just wow.
 

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Omnific One said:
That's actually unsettlingly quick response time from Anon. They are obviously gaining strength.
Or they were prepaired. You'd think with SOPA, there forces would be on high alert.
 

Zedar0

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These attacks aren't from the actual Anonymous. Escapist writers, please ignore claims from those twitter accounts, as they belong to clones (the ANONYMOOSE IS LEEJUN variety as well, so even worse).
 

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I'm not seeing how they're actually doing anything. The websites?

http://www.riaa.com/ Still up. I'm on it right now. Opening a new tab...

http://www.mpaa.org/ Also still up. Let's try another one...

http://www.universalmusic.com/ That one I can't seem to resolve, but that could just be a slow spot in the system.

So, a potential 1 out of 3 sites. I fully back Anonymous in just about anything and everything they do, however I'm not seeing ANYTHING here to suggest that they are actually DOING anything.
 

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Not much can really be said about anon. It's hard to support or denounce them since it's like saying hurricanes are bad, or fire is good. Hacking is just as occurring as natural events/disasters and hacker collectives seem to be like the mother nature of the internet. All you can really do is just go about your day like it or not.
 

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I quote a man large in character and size: "Fight in the name of childishness!" I'm pretty sure that's what Anon is doing.
 

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Ldude893 said:
The statement 'shit just got real' doesn't even cover it.

I think this song fits the occasion perfectly:
<youtube=WJDnJ0vXUgw>
SOPA will hunt you down for linking that!

Baron von Blitztank said:
Well, Anonymous have now started to show up and DDOS the place.
Fixed that for you.
 

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Well, please allow me to be the first here to say... -cough- "Ho not this shit again." I had enough of this last year and I don't think this kind of stuff is going to help anything. Specially at this moment in time.
 

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So the Feds go through legitimate channels to shut down MegaUpload and Anonymous does their usual inconvenient hijinks. *golf clap*

It's like watching the court jester trying to thwart an assassin.
Mumorpuger said:
Why should we care about these guys? Where were they in stopping SOPA and PIPA?
One wonders how many of them did anything to help raise awareness of SOPA or PIPA. Considering their track record, not much. They would rather sit on their hands and wait until the crap hits the fan, and then do their lame hacking shit.
 

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Um, guys, think about it though, what if anon said the opposed SOPA, what would that really do? "The hackers oppose us! That must mean we're doing a good thing!"

Na, I figure this had moer to do with the fact they took down the porn than the upload site.
 

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Just when I was forgetting them, they have to curse my mind again.

Though I dont exactly know what kinda accomplishment they thinkt hey made taking down Utah's judicial sit.

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Daystar Clarion said:
Just 'internet guys with nothing better to do'.
Sort of like Wikipedia yesterday.

Oh, wait:
Yeah... I dont think what Anon did is going to do really change any of those minds, unless soeone on the for side words it so SOPA/PIPA can hurt Anon and take them down.
 

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*RIAA's website just came up

this is pretty awesome that anonymous did this, it's a little batman. it's not just about retaliation to injustice, but devoting ones self to an ideal and make it a symbol. or maybe i'm just a little too inspired, w/e, still sounds awesome.
 

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Oh man, I'm SURE that the DoJ and the RIAA are totally cowering in fear right now, and are totally going to change their minds.

Oh wait, they're not. If anything, this will just make them more determined to pursue the matter, as well as arrest a few "hackers" while they're at it.
 

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The Random One said:
I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
nice avatar.

ANYhoo, this just seems particularly petty to me. I guess at least they're doing something... don't know how it will help anything though.

in possibly related news, the term 'lulzy' now fills me with equal parts annoyance and embarrassment.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
tony2077 said:
oh anon when will you learn your way of doing things doesn't help

Probably never, considering "anon" is kind of an amorphous body.
I've always imagined them as some sort of outer god made up of ones and zeroes. You've seen those outer ones before, right? all those limbs, eyes, and mouths. They must get confused sometimes. The most powerful of the outer gods in Lovecraft's works is called "the idiot god" sometimes.

...how very appropriate.
 

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Hal10k said:
ChaplainOrion said:
What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?
You wouldn't be able to do that unless you actually knew who the people behind the DDOS were, and in that case you could just have regular law enforcement deal with them.
Well we all know that Anon is has strong 4chan roots so I was imagining they'd DDOS that and play it off as another group pro-government.
 

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These are just attacks out of desperation nothing will happen because of them. These arent websites we visit everyday and them being taken down for a short amount of time will not in fact do any real damage.

Take down amazon.com then you know...people will freak out and be scared. Because if you take a site like this that makes $ out of being online and available then people will pay attention.

Taking the departement of justice down does what? Piss them off and makes them shut down another site. Who wins in that exchange ?
 

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ChaplainOrion said:
Hal10k said:
ChaplainOrion said:
What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?
You wouldn't be able to do that unless you actually knew who the people behind the DDOS were, and in that case you could just have regular law enforcement deal with them.
Well we all know that Anon is has strong 4chan roots so I was imagining they'd DDOS that and play it off as another group pro-government.
You would be taking all the people who spend all of their time in 4chan and forcing them to migrate to other parts of the internet.

Good lord, man, consider the consequences.
 

viranimus

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Its not enough. Im furious right now because I have because of circumstances of uploading massive amounts of my personal files I created to megaupload so I could reformat my PC and correspondingly being blocked from the web host for those files the day after I reformat the PC I now have tens of thousands of hours (In essence years) of my personal work and labor being held hostage because many of the items I stored for the purposes of reformatting do not have physical files (Such as incomplete drawings, Massive library of audio track recordings, animation studio proofs, etc) that are absolutely irreplaceable.

This reaction is STILL too small. This shit is beyond control and certainly well beyond politely compromising and negotiating. Man I am really glad I got what supplies I have prepared when I did.
 

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Hal10k said:
ChaplainOrion said:
Hal10k said:
ChaplainOrion said:
What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?
You wouldn't be able to do that unless you actually knew who the people behind the DDOS were, and in that case you could just have regular law enforcement deal with them.
Well we all know that Anon is has strong 4chan roots so I was imagining they'd DDOS that and play it off as another group pro-government.
You would be taking all the people who spend all of their time in 4chan and forcing them to migrate to other parts of the internet.

Good lord, man, consider the consequences.
Then the government would have perfect reasons to censor the internet... Good lord, I discovered their next move. This is all part of their plans!
 

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They've taken a while to get involved in all this. They probably want to take a more backseat role this time seeing as the internet is doing good on it's own and will just retaliate when stuff like this happens. Still, things are getting a bit unsettling now.
 

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Listen up everyone. Anonymous did not do this with SOPA in mind. They did not do this to make the internet a better place. This was not about helping anyone. They care not that you're whining about how it doesn't help.

Guess what, Anonymous are not the heroes of the internet, and I'll thank every deity who'll listen for that. I was afraid they had all been replaced by self-righteous tossers.

Plain and simple: Anonymous got pissed->Anonymous got busy. I hope they keep it up... despite what you whiny sods are saying. We have all got more important things to worry about than Anonymous doing their thing, anyway.

SOPA/PIPA is still a threat and we shouldn't be hoping that Anonymous is going to be fighting our "Good Fight" for us. In short: be upset with them later, because this has NOTHING to do with SOPA.
 

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viranimus said:
Its not enough. Im furious right now because I have because of circumstances of uploading massive amounts of my personal files I created to megaupload so I could reformat my PC and correspondingly being blocked from the web host for those files the day after I reformat the PC I now have tens of thousands of hours (In essence years) of my personal work and labor being held hostage because many of the items I stored for the purposes of reformatting do not have physical files (Such as incomplete drawings, Massive library of audio track recordings, animation studio proofs, etc) that are absolutely irreplaceable.

This reaction is STILL too small. This shit is beyond control and certainly well beyond politely compromising and negotiating. Man I am really glad I got what supplies I have prepared when I did.
I don't mean this in a snarky, dickheaded way but how come you didn't back-up everything onto an exhd?
I'm a published author, and I have 3 back-up harddrives, just in case.
I'm asking sincerely, because I'm genuinely curious.
Not that I don't think it is royally fucked up that you can't access a site that you used for completely legal reasons.
 

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I love me some Anonymous I admit it. I really miss Lulzsec though. Dammit those guys knew how to have a good time. Their Twitter was full of awesome.
 

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Update 2: Anonymous claims to have taken down the Utah Chiefs of Police Association website.
Yeah!!!
TAKE THAT....UTAH POLICE CHIEFS!!!
....
Wait...why was the Utah Police targeted again?

Weren't the arrests made in New Zealand?
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
If you really think about it nobody really did anything of actual value. As ridiculous as Maddox can be, he does have a point [http://maddox.xmission.com/] here.
 

The Wooster

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Gotta love Anonymous. They're like high school students TP'ing their teacher's house for giving them a bad grade...
 

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Kopikatsu said:
Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.

2. Anonymous has no discretion. And this does cover ALL of the little splinter groups calling themselves Anonymous. Like attacking Utah. What did Utah do to anyone?
I seriously doubt regulating the internet would stop groups like Anon anyway. It would only serve to curtail the rights of the average citizen.
 

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Woohoo! Go get 'em Anon!

*ahem* I mean, this is a very interesting turn of events and I'm not on one side or anoth- Oh screw it, tear them a new virtual asshole Anon!

*munches popcorn*
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
If you really think about it nobody really did anything of actual value. As ridiculous as Maddox can be, he does have a point [http://maddox.xmission.com/] here.
Of course he has a point, but as long as people raise up enough hell to show the swing backers of this legislation they need to think about it, then they did their job. What to do here, is to remember who's voting for it and make sure everybody else remembers, so these politicians and people like them don't ever get elected again.
 

FalloutJack

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Well, I think this kind of drives my point home about carrot and stick.
 

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Wow Anon. When you're not busy being cyber terrorists by publishing the names of the family members of CEOs and cops all over the net and then being complete idiots by putting people in danger of getting slaughtered by Mexican drug cartels, you're out taking down government websites just because an upload site that supported piracy gets shut down. Truly, this group will be rememberd for all the good that it has done.
 

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ChaplainOrion said:
What if the government DDOSed Anonymous? Would anyone else love to see that happen?
They're trying the closest equivalent. It's called "SOPA".

(You may want to brush up on what Anonymous is before saying things like this. Protip: It's not a group of activists. Another pro-tip: By using the name "ChaplainOrion" and not including personal details on your profile, you are also part of Anonymous.)
 

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Disasterpiece Press said:
viranimus said:
Its not enough. Im furious right now because I have because of circumstances of uploading massive amounts of my personal files I created to megaupload so I could reformat my PC and correspondingly being blocked from the web host for those files the day after I reformat the PC I now have tens of thousands of hours (In essence years) of my personal work and labor being held hostage because many of the items I stored for the purposes of reformatting do not have physical files (Such as incomplete drawings, Massive library of audio track recordings, animation studio proofs, etc) that are absolutely irreplaceable.

This reaction is STILL too small. This shit is beyond control and certainly well beyond politely compromising and negotiating. Man I am really glad I got what supplies I have prepared when I did.
I don't mean this in a snarky, dickheaded way but how come you didn't back-up everything onto an exhd?
I'm a published author, and I have 3 back-up harddrives, just in case.
I'm asking sincerely, because I'm genuinely curious.
Not that I don't think it is royally fucked up that you can't access a site that you used for completely legal reasons.
No, I that is a legit question. Honestly? I was born poor, Ill die poor. So not having a lot of disposable income you try to prioritize. Its hard justifying spending extra money for recordable media that seemingly has just as much chance to fail. when a more cost effective means was made available for a realistic price of 350 USD 1 time for lifetime webhost,(and illustrating how cheaply that level of service SHOULD cost, because it can be done) I chose to reward that. I saw it as a choice to save a massive amount of money on physical media. Granted since 2008 I have more than saved 350$ of physical media that I did not have to buy.

I would say I have saved more than 3500$ not having to buy CDs and then DVDs. Then there is also the consideration how quickly a library of thousands of burnt CDs/DVDs becomes cumbersome, time consuming and unwieldy to manage. So when my situation came to the point of needing something to get away from CDs/DVDs I tried external hard drives first. I went through 3 of which all promptly died. Flash drives while more reliable still do not have the storage capacity I need. So then I tried to give Megaupload a chance and in that time they had never failed to disappoint me. It became an unexpected godsend to be able to do things I had never considered practical before like accessing files anywhere there is a PC with an internet connection, even from different locations Figuratively it took an act of congress to interrupt that reliability and adaptability of service.

Also, please understand that I respect my work is really not all that great. I had no intentions to create for profit or for anyone else to see/hear/experience it. I was just trying to create for the sake of creating.(Grrr... I just realized my most recent minecraft save file is stored there) These files are not intended for public use or anyones eyes but mine. I know many are bad, impractical, unuseful so I dont want to expend a lot of money to hoard trash. Cause even though most of it is worthless trash even to myself, There might be some I wrongly critiqued as being trash, that might actually be a master piece (million monkeys producing shakespear theory) or something that becomes a point of inspiration for something else later. If I had made it with the intention for someone else to see it, or on a for profit basis, Yes I would have invested more into protecting that investment. But seeings as was for my personal enjoyment/satisfaction I think that it was an appropriate level of investment for the value of it.
 

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tony2077 said:
oh anon when will you learn your way of doing things doesn't help
Probably about 20-30 years after we've all got government mandated computer chips implanted in our brains.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
Well Wikipedia do something useful.

Anon don't.
They took a day off work, figuratively.

Why are you surprised you don't know what a secretive underground organisation are doing, but do know what a high profile website asking for money is doing?
 

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dude... seriously. They took down a website, It's not really anything special. Look, this pretty much sums it up

 

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Hey guys, the entire reason anon does this is to draw attention to what happened from the media, regardless of what it looks like toward them - now people know that megaupload was taken down by a bunch of greedy corporate cunts who deserve nothing less than to be living on the street, not controlling a government.
 

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AdamG3691 said:
so, half of the internet blacks out voluntarily yesterday, today, anon blacks out the other half :p
I giggled.

Regardless of whether we think what theyre doing is a good or bad idea, Anonymous are going to continue.

May I suggest we approach this as if it were like a Riddick film?, where we support one evil to destory the bigger evil?
 

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And this comic strikes again http://xkcd.com/932/ .


When will they realise they aren't making any difference. The only people they can actually hurt are the customers of their victims. In this case they have nothing.

Just glad they are steering clear of SOPA. Don't need them muddying the waters and forcing people's hands.
 

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So they decided to hand their opposition even more ammunition? Wow these guys are sooooo smart. I hate annon, they DDoS WEBSITES and try to say they do it for "the people". The only "people" annon "members" care about are annon "members". All of the internal servers at the DoJ were up and running and I would wager that a good number of them were being used to run a back trace on you annon. So many good metaphors for this...

They....

punched a sleeping bear.
kicked a beehive.
opened the floodgates.
shot themselves in the foot.
ect, ect, ect.


A picture is worth a thousand words, so I'll leave it at this.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
Methinks someone hasn't been watching what Anonymous has been doing. They went dark yesterday as well.

Well you'd be right about that.

I don't give a toss what anon do, and DDoSing something doesn't exactly spark the thoughts of 'internet vigilantes'. Just 'internet guys with nothing better to do'.
This is a fair point, and I've commented on it before. Anonymous so far seems to lack the fangs to do more than mildly annoy the people it's targeting. Unless it can take down administrative systems and literally freeze these organizations for a lenthy period of time, this is more like a phrank.

That said, while I agree with Anonymous about SOPA, as I said in another post... the list of charges here includes Money Laundering. I think the copyright stuff is just something those interested in the politics are jumping on, but they are probably "also ran" charges meant to pad out the bust. The CEO of Megaupload wasn't nailed, just some people under him.

I think in the end the bottom line is that the copyright laws are still toothless and not practically prosecutable which is why the honcho wasn't nabbed. This is probably all about a money trail being traced back to these guys, and people within the Megaupload company laundering dirty money.

With no offense to Anonymous, stopping money laundering is not a bad thing. I think they responded to people who were sounding off about something they really didn't know much about.
 

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Remind me, what the hell does Anonymous' followers expect to achieve in having various websites unusuable for a handful of hours? We regularly got that here on The Escapist every Wednesday, yet here we are.
 

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Remind me, what the hell does Anonymous' followers expect to achieve in having various websites unusuable for a handful of hours? We regularly got that here on The Escapist every Wednesday, yet here we are.
Unless its my computer, we still do regularly get that every Wednesday on the Escapist.
 

The Wooster

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im wondering if there will be any arrests out of this from the data stored on the servers.
 

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I've always imagined them as some sort of outer god made up of ones and zeroes. You've seen those outer ones before, right? all those limbs, eyes, and mouths. They must get confused sometimes. The most powerful of the outer gods in Lovecraft's works is called "the idiot god" sometimes.

...how very appropriate.
That makes a lot of sense. Almost TOO MUCH sense.
 

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I think it was the arrests and take-down that ticked them off. They would be seen as the bad guy even more if they were to interfere with the running of a country but I do think that not anyone can be Anonymous, they need to organise and form themselves into a body that acts as a body and pick their battles or they will join in with the others that have hissy fits whenever stuff happens that they don't approve of.
 

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Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.

2. Anonymous has no discretion. And this does cover ALL of the little splinter groups calling themselves Anonymous. Like attacking Utah. What did Utah do to anyone?
I seriously doubt regulating the internet would stop groups like Anon anyway. It would only serve to curtail the rights of the average citizen.
As I've been saying all along, that doesn't matter in the slightest. Like the thing on video game piracy. The big developers/publishers have only seen their profits increase, despite increased piracy. But that doesn't matter. As long as they perceive profits as being lost, then it's a problem that they have to devote time and resources on DRM and other anti-piracy methods.

Same deal here. It doesn't matter if it doesn't stop them, as long as it seems like it will.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
Well Wikipedia do something useful.

Anon don't.
They took a day off work, figuratively.

Why are you surprised you don't know what a secretive underground organisation are doing, but do know what a high profile website asking for money is doing?
Because shut the fuck up, that's why :D

I hate it when someone's logic contrary to mine makes perfect sense.
 

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Oh, so NOW these assholes want to help? Threaten our entire way of internet, and they're nowhere to be found, but OH NO MEGAUPLOAD WENT DOWN, GOTTA GET MY PRONZ, QUICK LET'S GET TO HACKING GUIZE.

Fuck you, Anonymous. SOPA showed us one thing- we don't need you anymore. The internet doesn't need a spokesperson, because it's been clearly shown that it can speak for itself.
 

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When Anon is doing things in retaliation for non-internet based things I can get behind them sometimes. When on the web though, they should back off some since it just gives Congress, the DOJ, and the FBI a reason to fuck with the internet.
 

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I'm so glad they stayed out of the whole SOPA thing. And am kinda happy that they're throwing a tantrum that one of their favorite file-sharing sites that exploited piracy was taken down.

Should probably give the government confidence that they made the right call (which they did) in taking Mega down to have the people who adore piracy throwing a hissy fit over it.
 

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Actually this is a massive DDOS attack because they're spreading it by sending unsuspecting links everywhere, and anyone who opens it is DDOSing whomever it's aimed at. This is probably one of the biggest attacks they've ever done because of that fact.
 

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*basement of Anon headquaters* "Ah let just fire up Megavideo... that's strange, Megaupload... Damn wait a minute...OHHH So their gonna shut down websites that thousands, maybe millions use on a daily basis? Well we can play that game too!"

In other words, its about to be "On like Donkey Kong"
 

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*basement of Anon headquaters* "Ah let just fire up Megaporn... that's strange, -refresh-... Damn wait a minute...OHHH So their gonna shut down websites that thousands, maybe millions use on a daily basis? Well we can play that game too!"

In other words, its about to be "On like Donkey Kong"
Fixed that for you.
 

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They're right about megaupload's situation being unjustified. To eliminate a parasite, you do not kill the host. The parasite will simply find a new one.

I see the good intent Anon have, but DDoSing will do absolutely nothing. If anything, it's a minor inconvenience. In the unlikely event that it sparks fear or warns the parties involved, I shall stand corrected.
 

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As I understand it, the attacked websites don't provide services. So this is like spraying graffiti on a business sign as opposed to going in and breaking the copying machine. Please call me when they do actual damage.
 

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While it's nice of Anonymous to stick up for those that have been kicked (even though they have shown to contain a lot of pirated stuff on there), I highly doubt that their actions are winning us any anti-SOPA support.

I mean, it's one thing to peacefully protest, and then there's another thing to illegally take down the opposition's websites. Sure, it's probably just desserts (to some people), but if we're trying to look mature and intellectual in this argument, Anonymous just set us back by a lot.
 

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I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
Wow. I just mentioned that comic to a friend of mine on Skype who I talked about this issue with. I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking that.
 

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I got some tea and a blanket and a bag of popcorn and I'm going to watch this crap happen. I was waiting for Anonymous to show up to this party.
 

The Wooster

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Kopikatsu said:
Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.
Robin Hood, Batman, Zorro, V and countless of other images of vigilantes attacking the corrupt law in power would like to disagree with you. Anon might not be the answer we're looking for, but I'd much rather them taking out the morally bankrupt corporations that are trying to bully the rest of the internet to behave.

Also, regulating the internet will never work, and should never be implemented.
 

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The Random One said:
I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
Wow. I just mentioned that comic to a friend of mine on Skype who I talked about this issue with. I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking that.
Yep, that XKCD comic was spot-on.
 

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I feel like we just sprung our secret weapon. This is exactly why they want to pass these bill and shut down the internet, they're afraid of us! Let's give them a reason to be.
 

The Wooster

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Do people think that these sites Anon is freezing have any impact on the way these companies do their daily jobs?
 

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Do people think that these sites Anon is freezing have any impact on the way these companies do their daily jobs?
No, it's like leaving a flaming bag of shit on their doorstep, ringing the bell and sprinting away screaming "ANONS REVOLT!"
 

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They took down a police website?

.........yay?


Honestly, I was in support of them a couple of years ago but if we are going to legitimize our "platform", the nerd platform as some congresspeople put it (or the platform of people fighting for "new media"), we have to do a little house cleaning on the cyber-terrorists in our group. It's hard to be taken seriously when the default response is "HACK ALL THE THINGS"
 

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These are just attacks out of desperation nothing will happen because of them. These arent websites we visit everyday and them being taken down for a short amount of time will not in fact do any real damage.

Take down amazon.com then you know...people will freak out and be scared. Because if you take a site like this that makes $ out of being online and available then people will pay attention.

Taking the departement of justice down does what? Piss them off and makes them shut down another site. Who wins in that exchange ?
But these attacks were in response to a very specific action by a specific group. They shut down the Department of Justice website because it was the Department of Justice that they have a problem with. Attacking amazon would be just plain stupid because you would be attacking a group that had nothing to do with the actions you are protesting.

Martin Luther King Jr marched on Washington because he wanted political change. The occupy Wall Street movement is on Wall Street because people want economic change. Anonymous attacked the Department of Justice because they want law enforcement to change in a specific way. This is a protest. They are acting like protesters.
 

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Yes, anonymous. Show that the government doesn't need to police the internet by attacking the government's websites.

Good job, guys.
 

The Wooster

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Now, because some of the admins have gotten pathetically uppity about low content posts, I have to say something meaningful for some reason. So... I think that this will do more harm than good, but it's going to be fun.
 

The Wooster

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The Random One said:
I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"

but for the record, the poster was taped at the edges, the same edges were torn off when they brought the poster down!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 

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I think they are starting to act more like protesters than anything. They are like Occupy but instead of going somewhere they occupy things digitally.

Also, anyone else amused that the OP (I think its Grey for this article) put links to the sites that are inaccessible?
 

The Wooster

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I fully support Anonymous in this. DDOSing may be illegal, but in my opinion it's one of the loudest forms of peaceful protest (no one gets hurt, but lots of people notice). Who cares if it has no real effect. The general public don't know that, so it gets their attention because they think that someone's hacked a government website.

I feel sorry for anyone who's lost lots of data due to MegaUpload's shutdown. It once again proves that the US government has no idea how the internet works (as if we needed more proof). It's like if a few people were hiding ripped CDs in a self-storage warehouse, so the government dropped a bomb on it.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.
Robin Hood, Batman, Zorro, V and countless of other images of vigilantes attacking the corrupt law in power would like to disagree with you. Anon might not be the answer we're looking for, but I'd much rather them taking out the morally bankrupt corporations that are trying to bully the rest of the internet to behave.

Also, regulating the internet will never work, and should never be implemented.

...You do realize that you just listed a bunch of fictional characters, right?

And I'm not sure what your point is. The law doesn't like vigilantes. Listing vigilantes who attack the law isn't a good way to refute my point.
 

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You know half the time Anon's dealings seem a bit dubious and silly but for this... I'm glad they are giving those corporations/government institutions at least a bit of a hard time.
Even if it's only a slight annoyance to them, I'm glad.

Seriously companies "trying"(they aren't really so much trying as succeeding) to run the world... f'off please.

I bet Eidos Montreal thought they were being all futuristic when the voice over for the Deus EX trailer was saying "...corporations have more power than the government...". No, no boys and girls. It's here and now.
 

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So anon can announce attacks on twitter, yet my account gets suspended the same day I make it without even so much as writing a curse word or posting anything illegal. Seriously, fuck twitter.
 

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In the internet world, Anonymous in the group of confused anarchists who spend their evenings revolting against society by kicking garbage cans and scaring old ladies. This will only serve to paint anti-SOPA protests as pirates and hackers. I don't think they could possibly have done more damage to the opposition.
 

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I've got a warm bomb shelter for anyone willing to bring over some snacks and watch a Marvel Cinematic Universe marathon. No Incredible Hulk though. Never the Incredible Hulk.
 

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The whole 'using links posted in random places to make drones' makes me happy. Might actually get idiots to stop clicking on every single retarded link they can.

OT: Anon, whether doing it for good/bad/lulz reasons, wont stop. The more people whine, the more fuel it provides. Have to say though, i fully support what they are doing. A lot of my friends used megaupload for college/uni files and i really don't see them getting money back for now defunct subs.
 

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I'm sorry, but I gotta ask, why the Utah chiefs of police association? That seems like an oddly specific target that has oddly little to do with this affair.
 

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Just a reminder that anon have done good things in the past :)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/10/24/anonymous-operation-darknet.html
 

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DrOswald said:
Azmael Silverlance said:
These are just attacks out of desperation nothing will happen because of them. These arent websites we visit everyday and them being taken down for a short amount of time will not in fact do any real damage.

Take down amazon.com then you know...people will freak out and be scared. Because if you take a site like this that makes $ out of being online and available then people will pay attention.

Taking the departement of justice down does what? Piss them off and makes them shut down another site. Who wins in that exchange ?
But these attacks were in response to a very specific action by a specific group. They shut down the Department of Justice website because it was the Department of Justice that they have a problem with. Attacking amazon would be just plain stupid because you would be attacking a group that had nothing to do with the actions you are protesting.

Martin Luther King Jr marched on Washington because he wanted political change. The occupy Wall Street movement is on Wall Street because people want economic change. Anonymous attacked the Department of Justice because they want law enforcement to change in a specific way. This is a protest. They are acting like protesters.
No i agree with you 100%. But your examples were of people and protests that had a strong impact. This attack however makes no real plash and nobody will really lose sleep over that.
Hundreds sitting on a street is something completely different
 
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Sober Thal said:
Do people think that these sites Anon is freezing have any impact on the way these companies do their daily jobs?
No, it's like leaving a flaming bag of shit on their doorstep, ringing the bell and sprinting away screaming "ANONS REVOLT!"
Which costs them thousands of pounds to remove.

WMG was down for an hour...Imagine what that would do to, say, Tesco's.
 

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Anon, we were handling this just fine through legal means, kindly fuck off. You're just proving to these people that they're right and that laws like these are needed YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!
 

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No, I that is a legit question. Honestly? I was born poor, Ill die poor. So not having a lot of disposable income you try to prioritize. Its hard justifying spending extra money for recordable media that seemingly has just as much chance to fail. when a more cost effective means was made available for a realistic price of 350 USD 1 time for lifetime webhost,(and illustrating how cheaply that level of service SHOULD cost, because it can be done) I chose to reward that. I saw it as a choice to save a massive amount of money on physical media. Granted since 2008 I have more than saved 350$ of physical media that I did not have to buy.

I would say I have saved more than 3500$ not having to buy CDs and then DVDs. Then there is also the consideration how quickly a library of thousands of burnt CDs/DVDs becomes cumbersome, time consuming and unwieldy to manage. So when my situation came to the point of needing something to get away from CDs/DVDs I tried external hard drives first. I went through 3 of which all promptly died. Flash drives while more reliable still do not have the storage capacity I need. So then I tried to give Megaupload a chance and in that time they had never failed to disappoint me. It became an unexpected godsend to be able to do things I had never considered practical before like accessing files anywhere there is a PC with an internet connection, even from different locations Figuratively it took an act of congress to interrupt that reliability and adaptability of service.

Also, please understand that I respect my work is really not all that great. I had no intentions to create for profit or for anyone else to see/hear/experience it. I was just trying to create for the sake of creating.(Grrr... I just realized my most recent minecraft save file is stored there) These files are not intended for public use or anyones eyes but mine. I know many are bad, impractical, unuseful so I dont want to expend a lot of money to hoard trash. Cause even though most of it is worthless trash even to myself, There might be some I wrongly critiqued as being trash, that might actually be a master piece (million monkeys producing shakespear theory) or something that becomes a point of inspiration for something else later. If I had made it with the intention for someone else to see it, or on a for profit basis, Yes I would have invested more into protecting that investment. But seeings as was for my personal enjoyment/satisfaction I think that it was an appropriate level of investment for the value of it.
I never really thought of it that way - how much money has been spent from CDs to DVDs to Exhds. I'm guilty of this and I have spent a lot of time consumed by transfers and organization.
You have every right to be pissed - no matter how you feel about your art and its intentions, your right to access it and do with it as you please had been compromised. You can not be held at fault because people choose to use the same system for "illegal" reasons. I don't get why they don't continue to just tell the website to take down infringing files - they do this with youtube all the time. It's smell so rotten to me. How can you punish everyone? That would be like banning alcohol because a select amount abuse the substance or drink & drive.
And on an even deeper level, I'm not so sure this is theft - yes, megaupload is making money off of advertising that could be linked to copyrighted material, so why not hit them in the wallets then? If they are making so much bank, can't the people who are upset recoop that way? And isn't this just a system that the entertainment industry needs to get behind? The ease and safety - the reliability of product - so many people would gladly pay a fee to have a service like that.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
If you really think about it nobody really did anything of actual value. As ridiculous as Maddox can be, he does have a point [http://maddox.xmission.com/] here.
people are boycotting E3,so that's one thing, Wikipedia blacked out, that's another thing, as it"inconvenienced people" 30 000 people pulled their domain names from godaddy, hit them in the money, that helped. and he even admitted that we got our way, despite him saying "none of it's going to work you all suck QQ".

the guy has the flimsiest point I have ever seen, or at least terrible, terrible, supporting arguments that were clearly proven wrong. the only good thing to come from that article was the suggestions of what to do and who to hit, the rest was trash honestly.
 

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How can you punish everyone? That would be like banning alcohol because a select amount abuse the substance or drink & drive.
You should have a look at the prohibition that happen in the states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

Seems to be how their government rolls.
 

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I don't believe megaupload deserves to be shutdown, but I don't know anyone who uses it for legal purposes. I know it hosts some game patches and other stuff but I only hear about the piracy aspect. Instead of destroying Megaupload, attack the people who are putting pirated things on there. Killing the messenger rarely works if history is a good indicator.
 

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I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
Haha, yes. Anonymous like to flatter themselves a lot with big, smug speeches, but the extent of their action is limited to pointless, feckless attacks that have no long term result and produce no lulz.
 

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I have no doubts that Anonymous will some day get people killed with one of their hacking stunts. Some one want to explain how a group who illegally terrorizes various places on the internet, either for fun or because they don't like them, aren't terrorists? FYI, 'because I think those people deserve it' isn't a good answer.
 

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Ultra-Chronic Monstah said:


Now, because some of the admins have gotten pathetically uppity about low content posts, I have to say something meaningful for some reason. So... I think that this will do more harm than good, but it's going to be fun.
Pretty much this, and +1 for agreeing on the low content post obsession.

Let's face it, a low content thread can only really produce a low content post. Sure it's NEWS, but...not a whole lot to talk about.
 

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Whoop di fucking doo? Is anyone else reminded of this? [http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cia.png]

I like anonymous and everything but is what they do really any more influential than signing a petition? Or maybe, doing what Extra Creditz did in their latest episode?

EDIT: Ninja'd. Except not really cos they said it ages ago... But still..
 

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And internet terrorism strikes again. I'm sure the US government will just immediately crumble and bow because the US government is so famous for taking terror attacks and giving up.
(The sarcasm gauge... it's overloading! BOOM!)
 

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im not really an anon fan, but honestly the argument that it gives the feds an excuse to police the interwebs is really thin. they proved with the mega takedown that they don't need an excuse. they just do.

and anon activity isnt terrorism. at best its social disobedience.

anons were probably very active in the sopa protest. but since there were already an organized campaign i expect their efforts went in to supporting the official movement. anon action historically comes only if there is no legitimate activism in motion.
 

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Shutting down a few sites isn't going to impress the feds. Step up your game Anonymous. Show them what you're capable of.
 

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I used to support Anonymous ... now they just get on my nerves ...
It's pretty obvious that the feds aren't ever going to decide to make things better because of what anonymous is doing, I never expected it to be like that. But I had always hoped their efforts would be enough to start getting other people involved. But now that we've done that, with the blackout and occupy and everything, I just think they sort of get in the way now ... we need more protests, but not from them, not anymore.
 

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I`m kinda happy! I had a long and fruitful history and future with MegaUpload...

...sure, theyre methodology could use some work but their motives are fine with me!
 

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Anon has my full support. And possibly my serial, and regiment number on this. I absolutely detest the conditions in which megaupload was taken down, what the hosts are having to go through, and the fact that the US of all places decided to shut down a domain located in Hong Kong... Part of me hopes China will be overly mad and retaliate. Possibly with nuclear fire. At least the internet will be safe from the United States of Facis- I mean world polici- I mean freedom hate- I mean America. Sorry, long day.
 

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I don't understand how taking a website down does anything. I mean if they actually hacked into their system/database sure. But they are essentially just tearing down a poster like XKCD pointed out. I'm pretty sure most of the people working for these agencies haven't even looked at their public website or care it exists.

I don't have anything against Anonymous but I don't think they are doing anything that will actually bother anybody at the end of the day.
 

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Part of me hopes China will be overly mad and retaliate. Possibly with nuclear fire.
As pissed off as I am at the US government over this, I would never hope for this. Besides China isn't exactly a place for internet freedom normally. I don't think they give a rats ass.
 

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I keep thinking of that XKCD comic. "Anonymous tore down a poster put up... by the Department of Justice!"
This.

Honestly, these attacks amount to little more than a minor inconvenience. When we're talking about a government that deals with nuclear arms threats regularly or a multi-million dollar international corporation, a few DDOS attacks seem pretty insignificant.
 

The Wooster

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im not one to support anonymous at the best of times, i personally think they cause more trouble than good but since the us government has stolen my shit with taking down megaupload i say anonymous.. go for it
 

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I honestly can't say that I believe that the guys whose websites have been taken down will see this as anymore that irritating. Really. Anonymous will be feeling all chuffed, but all they've done is been mildly irritating and done some chest pounding.
 

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I don't think Anon was serious by defacing/removing the facade. Isn't it Anon's SOP to reveal embarrassing secrets, suspicious subscriptions, personal details and the names of the target's pet chihuahua?

Taking down Megaupload won't kill piracy, the debacle with Pirate Bay proved that. I don't understand why can't the government just pressurize Megaupload to follow Youtube's practice - take down pirated stuff based on reporting and investigation. Sure it'll be labor intensive and time consuming but I'm sure people will be more forgiving than taking down an entire website. I'm going with hyperbole here but if Youtube can why not others?

Unless taking down a large foreign business is a form of chest-pounding, in which case I have nothing to say. I'll just hope the Impocalypse comes quicker.
 

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Ugh anonymous is just another problem, exactly one of the reasons the dinosaurs in washington should be afraid of leaving the internet unregulated, they just make things worse. They have no cause, they are just hackers who will attack anyone they disagree with regardless of merit.
 

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Two things.

1. This enforces the idea that the internet needs to be regulated, because if it's one thing that the law absolutely despises, it's vigilantes.

2. Anonymous has no discretion. And this does cover ALL of the little splinter groups calling themselves Anonymous. Like attacking Utah. What did Utah do to anyone?
This. So much this.

Anonymous, die a fucking fire, you childish, inconsiderate bastards.
 

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Primus1985 said:
*basement of Anon headquaters* "Ah let just fire up Megaporn... that's strange, -refresh-... Damn wait a minute...OHHH So their gonna shut down websites that thousands, maybe millions use on a daily basis? Well we can play that game too!"

In other words, its about to be "On like Donkey Kong"
Fixed that for you.
Lol hey, ya never know:p
 

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Good work Anonymous, keep it up. In all honesty I've supported Anonymous for the most part, this one part in particular. Megaupload is an important part of the web and shouldn't have been taken down.
 

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Anon has my full support. And possibly my serial, and regiment number on this. I absolutely detest the conditions in which megaupload was taken down, what the hosts are having to go through, and the fact that the US of all places decided to shut down a domain located in Hong Kong... Part of me hopes China will be overly mad and retaliate. Possibly with nuclear fire. At least the internet will be safe from the United States of Facis- I mean world polici- I mean freedom hate- I mean America. Sorry, long day.
See this is the sort of thing I can't stand, (sorry to pick on you Robert, I just picked your comment out of a number of them.) Megaupload has always been pretty much a front for piracy. Kim Dotcom and his lot get people to pay them for a service that essentially lets them download shit for free. Sure it poses as a legitimate file sharing service but let's not play dumb here, we all know what Megaupload is for. Dotcom sure did, that's why he took such a piss-poor stance on policing his own service - he knew what his customers payed him for and as long as the money kept rolling in, (and it did big time judging by the monstrosity in Auckland,) he was quite happy keeping it up. Now he's facing the music. I have no idea whether current legislation is strong enough to convict him of anything or get him extradited but as far as I'm concerned he's a criminal - I'm saying that based mostly on his history.

Anonymous reacting the way they did isn't a surprise given the high emotions brought on by all this SOPA stuff - but it's not anything against SOPA. This is just against the falsely perceived right among so many that they should be able to download whatever they want for free. The rest of them are just caught up in the emotion of it all. They have mistakenly assumed that the Megaupload thing has anything to do with SOPA. It doesn't. The recent take-down of Megaupload is the result of an operation that has been going on for over a year. It is the result of a lengthy criminal investigation, not a company lodging a copyright complaint. As for Megaupload it is a multinational company, it may be technically based in Hong Kong but it operated from everywhere including the US in which it had servers. An indictment was filed in the US, Dotcom was arrested by New Zealand police he is currently in the New Zealand court system. He has been charged. There is nothing unjust about this and there is nothing unjust about the take-down of his network while this is going on. If you arrest someone for operating a front distributing illegal material you don't let them continue operating while they are being put through a criminal trial.

I don't expect anyone conducting DDos attacks to understand the intricacies of the legal system or even the details of what is going on - which is just one more reason they should back the fuck off and learn a thing or two before acting like spoiled children. They're not doing anyone any favours here, least of all themselves.
 

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GIFT at work.... As if Cyber thuggery is going to enact political change, other than getting ***** slapped with an iron fist
 

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Take that, Utah Chiefs of Police Association! You can take our lives! But you can never take... umm... our umm... someone help me out here...
 

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Wow, members of anon must feel like some kind of badass in their mom's basement or something. Cyber-terrorism is still a form of terrorism. Hopefully they'll find some of the folk responsible and stick them with the prison sentences they so obviously deserve.

They aren't even vigilantes, just twatbags. Vigilantes in this situation would be finding a way to restore MU and its sister sites, what anon is doing is just criminal and utterly meaningless like everything else they've ever done.

This situation with MU, even SOPA itself, cannot get enough 'First World problems' pictures featuring it.



 

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I used to support Anonymous ... then i took an arrow to the knee ...
It's pretty obvious that the feds aren't ever going to decide to make things better because of what anonymous is doing, I never expected it to be like that. But I had always hoped their efforts would be enough to start getting other people involved. But now that we've done that, with the blackout and occupy and everything, I just think they sort of get in the way now ... we need more protests, but not from them, not anymore.
Fixed that for ya :)
 

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DarthFennec said:
I used to support Anonymous ... then i took an arrow to the knee ...
It's pretty obvious that the feds aren't ever going to decide to make things better because of what anonymous is doing, I never expected it to be like that. But I had always hoped their efforts would be enough to start getting other people involved. But now that we've done that, with the blackout and occupy and everything, I just think they sort of get in the way now ... we need more protests, but not from them, not anymore.
Fixed that for ya :)
NO.
 

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I doubt they can execute this plan for a noticeable amount of time, Also a vague "don't worry about your details citizens!" doesn't make them taking people's credit card numbers any more safe.
 

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So...

Anon does nothing to show it's backing of SOPA but when a file sharing website gets taken down 'it's on'?
I think it has something to do with the fact SOPA 'was needed to protect their products' then they can get the government to turn around and take down the biggest fileshare website and hunt down EVERY member including the ..graphic designer.

Why did they need SOPA then? Besides to take over your life.
 

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I can't feel bad for Megaupload if it manages to let $500 million worth of copywrited material on the site. It's their responsiability to enforce their no unatherized copyright material rule on their site to begin with.

Now how to do that with such a large amount of users per day is something they should actully be thinking about since clearly the current approach did not work. I do think it's reasonable to take the site temperaly offline in extreme cases but if the feds do it for you then I think you hardly can say you tried.

Now, maybe we can think of a few alternatives to prevent this in the future, hmm?
 

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I really do hope people realise that if they take down a site, they didn't hack into the mainframes or take control of the computers there.

What this is is some random guy running up to a building and putting a padlock on the front door barring entry until the guy with the bolt cutters shows up.
 

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Whaaaat!?

Why!?

MegaUpload was blatantly breaking the laws of piracy and the feds were just doing there jobs. If they were protesting because of SOPA I could understand, but SOPA is on hold indefinitely, so what's the problem!?

Honestly, it seems like they're just lashing out to say "oh hey, we're anonymous, we're so cool, let's take advantage of this situation!"
 

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Oh boy, Anonymous. They're extremely relevant and responsible. I can't think of a single thing they have ever done that could be misconstrued as an offensive or mean spirited action.

Okay, I'm done. I think it's funny how seriously they take themselves. I wish I could say they're a badass terrorist organization out to restore freedom to the U.S but they're not so lets not kid ourselves.
 
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How brave of Anon to give support to some rich fraudster.
http://gawker.com/5877873/anonymous-rallies-behind-plight-of-greedy-fraudster-millionaire
 

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While I'm normally not a big fan of stuff like this, I'm amused/glad that they attacked the MPAA and RIAA.

Sadly, it will bite the rest of us in the butt, but it's a solid point made: Don't p*ss off the nerds, moneybags.
 

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Way to go Anonymous, you did something totally insignificant for your cause but gave your enemies way more propaganda ammo to use against the masses in the form of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 

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You know attacks from anonymous really tend to confuse me the question i have is what do they expect to come from this its not like the FBI are going to stop what they are doing over a few websites being taken down. Yeah it'll most likely cause the DOJ to have to spend a few days getting there website back up but it is still just a petty annoyenice to the DOJ. Its not like this does any thing to harm them or disruptes their day to day operations. On top of that excatly what do they expect the DOJ to do if i had to make a list of organzations that can be imtinated the DOJ and wouldn't apper until maybe the Top 100 right above the NSA and below the CIA.
As for the companies I guess its hurting them but no more than say spray paint a goverment building with the words "house of liers" organzastions and company do conduct busniess over the internet, in person, or over the phone a website really won't hurt them. On top of that these are multi billion dollars companies i don't this will even make a dent in there bottom line and lets be honest that really the only these companies care.

So the question i have is this how is this effective since this is equal to say me throwing paint on a senator yeah is harmful to said senator's image but in the long run the only thing it accomplished is getting me introuble with the law.
 

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Eveonline100 said:
You know attacks from anonymous really tend to confuse me the question i have is what do they expect to come from this its not like the FBI are going to stop what they are doing over a few websites being taken down. Yeah it'll most likely cause the DOJ to have to spend a few days getting there website back up but it is still just a petty annoyenice to the DOJ. Its not like this does any thing to harm them or disruptes their day to day operations. On top of that excatly what do they expect the DOJ to do if i had to make a list of organzations that can be imtinated the DOJ and wouldn't apper until maybe the Top 100 right above the NSA and below the CIA.
As for the companies I guess its hurting them but no more than say spray paint a goverment building with the words "house of liers" organzastions and company do conduct busniess over the internet, in person, or over the phone a website really won't hurt them. On top of that these are multi billion dollars companies i don't this will even make a dent in there bottom line and lets be honest that really the only these companies care.

So the question i have is this how is this effective since this is equal to say me throwing paint on a senator yeah is harmful to said senator's image but in the long run the only thing it accomplished is getting me introuble with the law.
Well, what would you suggest they do? If they did anything violent you would, no doubt, condemn it. Taking down websites is making a statement. It isn't about how long it takes to get the site back up, it isn't about affecting huge change, it's about making small but numerous statements of protest.

What would you do to protest if you disagreed with the government taking down a website?
 

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can't these whiney children do something productive? I'm so sick of hearing about these idiots that I can scarcely speak of them.
 

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Related, Filesonic is now down.

General Michi said:
Anon are a touchy bunch, and my views on them are also touchy. It's hard to support a "group" of people whose goal is moral but methods are childish.
Anon is everyone, or in this case everyone with access to a DDoS tool. Very badly designed tools, but they work. If no-one decides to go /b/ mode because they're all on Kotaku, RPS, Escapist, etc, then a DDoS won't happen. Unless they've got nothing better to do, Yahtzee hasn't released a new vid and their collection of porn is barred from them.
 

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please stop giving attention to Anonymous.

It was fun for a while, but now it is just getting old...
 

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personion said:
Whaaaat!?

Why!?

MegaUpload was blatantly breaking the laws of piracy and the feds were just doing there jobs. If they were protesting because of SOPA I could understand, but SOPA is on hold indefinitely, so what's the problem!?

Honestly, it seems like they're just lashing out to say "oh hey, we're anonymous, we're so cool, let's take advantage of this situation!"
Totally agree, I support sites like TPB and fully supported DDoS attacks here in NZ when our "3 strikes" legislation was put in place. However this attack is one I wholeheartedly disagree with.

It appears virtually no-one read the indictment, you know, the document that clearly outlines all the reasons they took down the sites and arrested Dotcom. If Anons had actually taken a few minutes to read the evidence, they would have seen it's not "OMG they have some pirated files!!", and more "These guys are actively encouraging piracy and rewarding people for it".

Megaupload was breaking the law, and it is completely reasonable for authorities to shut it down. If this was TPB, then this kind of response would be justified, as TPB doesn't break any real laws.

Also, anyone who has lost data due to the shutdown, I have little sympathy. The T&Cs for MU clearly state no guarantee for the safety of your data. If you wanted that kind of data security, use an external or at least use a service aimed at that kind of thing (Dropbox comes to mind).
 

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FUCK YEAH PSYCH!


But yeah, I agree with the general consensus here. Anonymous isn't making change, they're just pissing off people that are already on the warpath.
 

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Do nothing to fight SOPA, enact ineffective retaliatory strikes with loic. Nice work, now people supporting SOPA have more ammunition. Thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it.
 

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there are 5 youtub channels and 15 twitter accounts claiming they are "the real annonymous". the real ones would never use googlable net to plan their attacks. they are smarter than that if they survived that long.
 

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Simple solution to all this. Vote the bums out. Look at the mess California is in and then look at how many years the incumbents have been in office. Do you see a pattern here?
 

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Will the real Anon please stand up? Surely you're smarter than to give legislators more ammo and conviction to lock down the Internet.

Captcha: steampa xii. - Steampunk XII, anyone?
 

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To be honest, the takedown of Megaupload is wrong. Whether or not the hacking is to be condoned, ill feelings about the Megaupload takedown are certainly understandable.

It feels almost as if SOPA and PIPA didn't even need to pass for the internet to be ruined. They're going after it anyway.
 

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Is there really anymore needed said than this?



Yeah there is actually: have a giant corporation that makes billions despite piracy 'hurting them' of course you're going to suffer more than say ..if you murdered someone.
 

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the same just happened with filesonic, I want my premium subscription money back