Anonymous Hacks Westboro Baptist Church on Live Talk Show

[Vanalosswen]

I've been following the exploits of WBC for a while, since they threatened to picket our university when the theatre department put on a production of "Laramie Project". (They never showed, the wimps; of course, we are in Alaska and it was -20 during a lot of the run, but still!) This is the first I've heard of Anonymous, since I don't usually run in the circles where this group is well known.

The Phelps lady acted exactly as I expected her to, and I almost felt sorry for her, since I know about the abuse that happened in her childhood. That might help explain her childish behavior. Nevertheless, kudos and applause to Anon for keeping his cool throughout and then one-upping her. I love that he hacked her while talking to her. That smacks of teh win.

 

[GiantRedButton]

Beatrice used that to describe Voltaire's views when she wrote his biography. It just gets misattributed to Voltaire actually saying it. Now who's undereducated?

So they were trying to be clever, but failed. She didn't actually say it, just said some other guy said something that meant that but longer. Still doesn't make HER an advocate of free speech...

So who failed? They did. They said that they agreed that Voltaire said something, when they ment to say they support people right to be stupid arsehats if thats what they want to even if you disagree with their stupid arsehatedness.

Also he did supposedly SAY it, just differently, hence as I said it was a PARAPHRASE.

Wikipedia has this to say:

The most oft-cited Voltaire quotation is apocryphal. He is incorrectly credited with writing, ?I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.? These were not his words, but rather those of Evelyn Beatrice Hall, written under the pseudonym S. G. Tallentyre in her 1906 biographical book The Friends of Voltaire. Hall intended to summarize in her own words Voltaire's attitude towards Claude Adrien Helvétius and his controversial book De l'esprit, but her first-person expression was mistaken for an actual quotation from Voltaire. Her interpretation does capture the spirit of Voltaire?s attitude towards Helvetius; it had been said Hall's summary was inspired by a quotation found in a 1770 Voltaire letter to an Abbot le Roche, in which he was reported to have said, ?I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.?[19] Nevertheless, scholars believe there must have again been misinterpretation, as the letter does not seem to contain any such quote.

However I seem to recall my History lecturer saying that it was supposed to be something he said verbally in an argument.

Either way it is irrelevant as they are not Hall's sentiments but Voltaire's...

Wow your bad at losing.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

You quote something a person said. The rest of the civilized world agrees on this.
How the hell was Andy Chalk or Anon supposed to know that they would have to attribute the quote to the wrong person so that your and only your definition of quotes is met?
Good thing your not a regular here. I have had enough of logic-haters in the video.

 

[UnmotivatedSlacker]

Beatrice used that to describe Voltaire's views when she wrote his biography. It just gets misattributed to Voltaire actually saying it. Now who's undereducated?

So they were trying to be clever, but failed. She didn't actually say it, just said some other guy said something that meant that but longer. Still doesn't make HER an advocate of free speech...

So who failed? They did. They said that they agreed that Voltaire said something, when they ment to say they support people right to be stupid arsehats if thats what they want to even if you disagree with their stupid arsehatedness.

Also he did supposedly SAY it, just differently, hence as I said it was a PARAPHRASE.

Wikipedia has this to say:

The most oft-cited Voltaire quotation is apocryphal. He is incorrectly credited with writing, ?I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.? These were not his words, but rather those of Evelyn Beatrice Hall, written under the pseudonym S. G. Tallentyre in her 1906 biographical book The Friends of Voltaire. Hall intended to summarize in her own words Voltaire's attitude towards Claude Adrien Helvétius and his controversial book De l'esprit, but her first-person expression was mistaken for an actual quotation from Voltaire. Her interpretation does capture the spirit of Voltaire?s attitude towards Helvetius; it had been said Hall's summary was inspired by a quotation found in a 1770 Voltaire letter to an Abbot le Roche, in which he was reported to have said, ?I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.?[19] Nevertheless, scholars believe there must have again been misinterpretation, as the letter does not seem to contain any such quote.

However I seem to recall my History lecturer saying that it was supposed to be something he said verbally in an argument.

Either way it is irrelevant as they are not Hall's sentiments but Voltaire's...

You're missing the point. They gave her the credit because she is the one that wrote that particular quote. Obviously they know it was based on Voltaire's ideals, but he didn't actually say that quote, Hall did. Also your wikiquote doesn't help much as it admits the letter may have been misinterpreted.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

Well that was fun. WBC is really a strange organization, it's like they're all just life trolls. I think it's nice that Anon had the consistency of morality to allow the WBC to say whatever they want and deny their threats(if indeed they the WBC was the instigator).

Either way, I'm looking forward to more anon antics.

 

[MB202]

I saw that video, and I have to say, that Shirley girl needs to learn to shut her mouth when other people are talking.

 

[DarthFennec]

She reminds me of the reason I hate trolls 9_9 I had forgotten lately because of the whole `Anonymous fighting for my freedom' bit. But this brings it all back. She's over 50, really? She acts 11. She doesn't give a shit about god. She doesn't give a shit about Anonymous. She doesn't give a shit about her websites. All she cares about is the publicity. That's how most trolls I've met roll. She thinks she's clever because just by doing this interview, Anonymous is `falling into her trap' and doing exactly what she wants. She's not clever at all though, she's just very immature. She's just annoying the hell out of everyone until they give her attention, which is always what she wants, and the only people that ever do that are trolls and two-year-olds. Compared to her, the Anonymous representative is acting very mature and professional. He acts rationally, mostly. He's obviously halfway intelligent, unlike Phelps. Anonymous wants publicity for a reason, so that they can make a difference in the world and benefit themselves as well as the rest of us, and that's honorable in my eyes. Hell, even people who want publicity for fame or fortune, I can understand that. Phelps, however, just wants as many people as possible to hate her. That's fucking pathetic. Her standard is so low, no shit she's going to get her way. And then she acts all smug when she does. Like she's some kind of ingenious mastermind that she fooled Anonymous into giving her what she wanted. Hate is the easiest kind of attention to get. Being hated doesn't make you special or important or useful in any way. It just wastes everyone's time.

Rant over. TL;DR, I hate that woman, the way she talks, the way she acts, the way she smiles.

 

[toothofymir]

I laughed every time she talked.

 

[spartan1077]

I find it funny that he mentioned Jester, one of the hacktivists who has taken down Wikileaks and 4chan multiple times. Also, he's shown the true identity of some anon members, yet he remains completely anonymous.

 

[Balobo]

"When Anonymous says we support free speech, we mean it," the group said in a press release. "We count Beatrice Hall among our Anonymous forebears: 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'"

That was Voltaire (or a paraphrasing of his words) who said that. Really Anon should know better than to let the undereducated Americans in their ranks speak for them. But I s'pose thats the problem with an unorganized group like them anyone can and will speak in their name and its usual the idiots that get heard...

"undereducated Americans." So are you some kind of genius because you're not American?

 

[carnege4]

well played....

well played

 

[Badassassin]

In my lifetime I have performed over 9000 sins.


Internets are serious business aren't they?

 

[z3rostr1fe]

Problem, WBC?

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OT:
I really loved how the Anon Rep responded in the interview. The guy's a troll. The WBC, on the other hand, just kept on spewing nonsense sludge out of their huge buccal cavity, which isn't helping their organization.

 

[kotorfan04]

Can we get a link to that message anonymous posted.
Not much of a fan of anonymous but I think they found their calling in destroying WBC.

 

[DTWolfwood]

over 9000!!! omg XD

as any proper religious zealot, she refuses and ignores any reasoning and coherent discussion. Real mature interrupting someone trying to speak shirley. lol

 

[Cavouku]

What I've ascertained is that Anonymous, acting proactively, is at least trying to do whatever they can to support freedom and stability. Their methods are... varied, and interesting, but it probably coincides with their resources. It's the internet where they're most at home, so I understand using it's abilities through DDoSing, hacking, etc., especially when IRL action can't take place, or wouldn't garner enough results.

This WBC thing was just reactive, and there's a big difference between reactive Anons and proactive Anons. It's like if you were a basketball player, and someone challenged you on the street, you said no, they egg you on, so you slam dunk the thing and it hits their skull. You later go on to playing in the big leagues.

I don't really think this should take away from the credibility that I genuinely believe they're trying to establish. It was merely a cold, emotionless *****-slap to leave them alone, and not really what could be called "an act of Anonymous".

This was just for some personal lulz. I saw nothing wrong with it... wait I did; that lady's smile.

Stop it... fucking stop it!

EDIT: Opinions on Anonymous will always be divided, even amongst one person. They could do something that seems noble one minute, and then something just trollish the next. I think if we encourage their more noble actions, Anon will develop in a way that benefits people. I mean, just look at how Project Chanology turned out. It went from DDoSing, black faxes and information leaks to non-violent, non-aggressive protests in the name of raising public awareness, in no small part because one wise-beard man asked them nicely to do something more beneficial and respectable.

However, we must also respect Anonymous's desire to do it for the lulz. This, right here; this was for the lulz. Lulz were achieved.

 

[Amax29]

This would be made even cooler if the anonymous represented spoke like Legion from Mass Effect 2.

 

[carnege4]

I love to see how the anon representative keeps trolling her and with a very mature speech.

Glad to see i'm not the only one that got the gurren lagann reference

 

[Devin Parker]

So who's "job" is it in the Phelps family to read the Bible? I think they forgot to assign that responsibility.

Oddly enough, I listened to an interview with one of the Phelps (I thought it was Shirley then, too) on Christian radio where she was confronted on the wackiness of WBC's skewed, heretical beliefs, but she swore a lot there. Interesting that she didn't here.

Nice work, Anonymous.

 

[Vergial]

Stuff like this makes me respect Anon further. And makes me hate those nitwits even more than I already do.

God, I love how Anon makes me laugh.

EDIT: By 'nitwits', I mean the WBC. I wonder if anyone likes them at all?