Anti-Gay Email Campaign Floods Electronic Arts

[SomeBrianDude]

I would really love EA's response to be along the lines of "You're all narrow minded bigots, using whatever excuse springs to mind (be it religion, or the 'defense of family values', or whatever else) to give your bigotry a façade of respectability. We see through that façade, and are asking you, as politely as we possibly can, to fuck off."

I mean, they won't, but it would be nice.

 

[Burst6]

I want to know why it so easily just throws you into a same sex humping when you are just being friendly. Apparently, there is something wrong with a guy liking a vagina and a woman liking a penis. It's like straight people are being guilt tripped about being straight now a days.

To be fair, it just as easily throws you into opposite sex humping when you are just being friendly. It's not so much pushing homosexuality, as trying to get people interested in a game because you can have partially on-screen intercourse with characters in it.

Yeah, pretty much. I'm pretty sure i got renegade points because i didn't want my femshep to do vega.

 

[Waaghpowa]

To all the anti gay activists and homophobes attempting to disguise their bigotry as "family values" or some other bullshit reason to keep gay marriage from being legal, I will take a page from the philosophy of Stuart Mill with the "greatest happiness principle.

All people have the right to pursue the maximum happiness possible UNTIL said pursuit impedes the happiness of others.

We don't care that you don't like homosexuality, we care that you're trying to make everyone's lives miserable over it. Dislike it all you want, it doesn't affect you directly, stop trying to tell people they can't do it.

On the topic of EA, they should tell them to fuck off and to not buy their games if they don't like it. Not like they're hurting for sales.

 

[Nemu]

I think there is nothing wrong with gay.. however, this game DOES rub it in players' face about the galaxy being "gay-okay" when one of your crew member is gay, and there are many cut scenes of him talking about his husband, and few other side walk NPCs that chats about their Lez/Gay relationships... I think this game is a little bit over done with the Gay thing... too much information, I know it's to show the whole open gender thing, but there is too much focus on the gay ones...

Funny, gay folks often say that about how the hetero thing is "rubbed in their faces", too.


Back to more of an OP statement: That being said, I am gay (specifically a lesbian) and I couldn't care less one way or the other.
I don't play games to form romances within them. I'm an officer in gay guilds in many MMOs and I think the only member who isn't interested in the ToR relationship aspect. I'm far too busy killing Reps and being overly evil.

Good on Bio/EA for standing their ground, tho. They know they cater to a demographic that is more generally accepting of gays (among other so-called social pariahs, like geeks and nerds), so they know who they need to stick by.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

Alright then- Family values nutters, time for a Lesson in the economy.

When you DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT TO BEGIN WITH you cannot boycott it. If i disagreed with the giant pink dildo company, i cannot boycott them because i do not buy the products. Similarly if you do not buy games you cannot boycott them.

Why is their point of view any less valid than that of those poeple complaining about the ending of ME3? I don't I agree with it, but they are as just entitled to express to their point of view as anyone else. How do you know the private opinions of other players, have you empirical data saying only liberals buy games? My experience of online play seems to suggest that there is rampant homophobia amongst hardcore gamers. I don't think there has been a day when I haven't heard some sort of homophobic insult when playing online.

Because last I checked no-one could really associate themselves with being a disappointing ending, whereas plenty of people can associate themselves with being gay, because they are. By trying to get the gay part removed, it's setting a clear "no gays allowed" sorta vibe, whereas changing the ending, or adding bits on after doesn't have any such connotations

 

[Emiscary]

I'm sure there's about 57 emails complaining that the ending was garbage and another 12 listing the lies made regarding it pre and post release for every gay bashing e-mail, but hey- what matters is that EA can paint their customers in as negative a light as possible while deflecting attention from their recent failures and shattered public image.

 

[Simonoly]

I'd love to see what these emails say. Something along the lines of:

"Dear heathens. I've never played this game, but I hear it has gayness in it and I'm worried that my 2 year old daughter who also has not played the game might catch lesbianism. I think you should remove all gayness from the game or at least allow the gay and lesbian characters to be shot out into space so they may repent in a vacuum. Yours Truly, a very concerned Mother of one"

 

[emeraldrafael]

I think at this point boycotting ST:TOR and ME3 wouldnt be a real issue since hey've both had to have made enough money to cover their costs at least tree times over.

anyway im just gonna say tat youre free to think whatever you want, but just remember your kids learn from you and if they're going to be this ignorant, you may as well not bother to teach them anything and just let them become self centered bigoted assholes against EVERYONE (race/gender/religion/sexuality) because theres no point in being bigoted if youre not going all in.

 

[Simonoly]

Alright then- Family values nutters, time for a Lesson in the economy.

When you DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT TO BEGIN WITH you cannot boycott it. If i disagreed with the giant pink dildo company, i cannot boycott them because i do not buy the products. Similarly if you do not buy games you cannot boycott them.

Why is their point of view any less valid than that of those poeple complaining about the ending of ME3? I don't I agree with it, but they are as just entitled to express to their point of view as anyone else. How do you know the private opinions of other players, have you empirical data saying only liberals buy games? My experience of online play seems to suggest that there is rampant homophobia amongst hardcore gamers. I don't think there has been a day when I haven't heard some sort of homophobic insult when playing online.

Because last I checked no-one could really associate themselves with being a disappointing ending, whereas plenty of people can associate themselves with being gay, because they are. By trying to get the gay part removed, it's setting a clear "no gays allowed" sorta vibe, whereas changing the ending, or adding bits on after doesn't have any such connotations

I was waiting for someone to try and draw parallels between the controversy with the ending and this. I knew it would creep up somewhere, just maybe not on these forums.

 

[Dr. Crawver]

Alright then- Family values nutters, time for a Lesson in the economy.

When you DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT TO BEGIN WITH you cannot boycott it. If i disagreed with the giant pink dildo company, i cannot boycott them because i do not buy the products. Similarly if you do not buy games you cannot boycott them.

Why is their point of view any less valid than that of those poeple complaining about the ending of ME3? I don't I agree with it, but they are as just entitled to express to their point of view as anyone else. How do you know the private opinions of other players, have you empirical data saying only liberals buy games? My experience of online play seems to suggest that there is rampant homophobia amongst hardcore gamers. I don't think there has been a day when I haven't heard some sort of homophobic insult when playing online.

Because last I checked no-one could really associate themselves with being a disappointing ending, whereas plenty of people can associate themselves with being gay, because they are. By trying to get the gay part removed, it's setting a clear "no gays allowed" sorta vibe, whereas changing the ending, or adding bits on after doesn't have any such connotations

I was waiting for someone to try and draw parallels between the controversy with the ending and this. I knew it would creep up somewhere, just maybe not on these forums.

I was hoping that it wouldn't be here too, but plenty of people just don't get why people are angry at the ME3 ending, and so assume that their anger is as valid as those of bigots. All I say is listen to the arguments made, and you'll see the difference.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Okay, so we take out gay sex, then what? Do we have to take out xenophilic sex as well? Because that will not stand, I promise you. If femshep can't tap Garrus' hot flesh, or manshep can't score with Tali, and Han can't hook up with Chewy, then what??

Hold fast, EA. It makes sense to stand up for one of the few ways we don't hate you. Give us more!

 

[Twilight_guy]

Sadly, the flaw in there logic that you can't boycott what you don't buy anyways, is the same logical flaw that gamers have when they boycott anything expect backwards. You're not boycotting something when you buy it regardless.

 

[Orinon]

Well, if Fox news hated mass effect before, they must definitely hate it now. Considering from what I know of Fox News, there may be a chance this will end up as a topic. Though this might not happen, according to the previous show, the expert was from Spike TV, (Meaning he may have not even been from EA, or Bioware or from the mass effect development team). but that's off topic, however considering how the last guy was treated, I'm betting no one would agree to come for a (with loads of sarcasm) fair and reasonable debate. (I will let you finish snickering).

 

[josh4president]

Idiots have access to email accounts.

In other news, water is wet.

 

[Undeadpool]

Alright then- Family values nutters, time for a Lesson in the economy.

When you DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT TO BEGIN WITH you cannot boycott it. If i disagreed with the giant pink dildo company, i cannot boycott them because i do not buy the products. Similarly if you do not buy games you cannot boycott them.

I think they're trying to rope people who MIGHT buy it into not buying it. Which is even funnier.

In any event, not half bad for the most reviled company in America. Nice job, whiners!

 

[likalaruku]

EA's had gay characters since 1996; Sim Copter, & notably The Sims.

Haters can go stick a dildo up their butts.

 

[Thoric485]

How convenient, just in the middle of a PR crysis.

 

[individual11]

I agree that the lack of tolerance towards all sorts of diversity in our culture is wrong.
I believe lot of 'social watchdogs' have a skewed world view.

I think the timing of EA making a scene on the issue isn't coincidental.
EA's underhand business practices are becoming known to the masses and they need a sympathy vote.