Apple Patents Anti-Piracy Technology

LiudvikasT

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I would never buy a device of which I have no absolute control. That's why I never had and will have any apple products.
 

Seijaku

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Only possible benefit of this is that I will have less of an urge to smack people at concerts. Fair enough if you are recording on a good camera but a phone, really?
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Apple patenting technology that restricts how it's customers use their device, just another day for Jobs & co. More and more my investment invan android phone is paying off.
 

Tourmeta

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Parents are going to be pissed all over the world when they try to film their kids school performances.
 

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Believe me when I say I am without any doubt 100% absolutely positively really really really really not being sarcastic when I say this: This. Can't. Go. Wrong. In. Any. Way.
 

Scabadus

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Apple have patented it, you say? Fantastic, that means my phone will never have this installed on it!
 

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Yet another reason i am never buying any thing apple *I* enjoy useing what *I* pay for however *I* want to use it. maybe they need to stop calling their products *I*(Blank) and start calling it ourphone ourpod ourpad since it seems more and more like you are just paying to borrow it from them put what they want in it use it how they want you to. overpriced junk I would love to see apple fall apart when people get smart and see how they run their company they expect you to buy a minor upgrade to a device every year. ugh apple makes me mad
 

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Uh... I think people are reading this wrong. This isn't Apple saying "We decide what you can/can't record" this is ARTISTS getting to say "You can/can't record us".

If an artist/filmmaker is totally cool with you recording them all they have to do is... absolutely nothing. The default option is everything works normally. It's only if the performer prefers you not to record that they set up the broadcast system that shuts down the iPhone.

It's an opt-in system whereby the performer gets to choose whether to enforce their copyright.
 

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It's kind of dumb really. If the movie is *that good* I will go to the theater and pay to see it myself. If people aren't going to theaters anymore then that tells me there are other issues at hand like poor value (ticket price, concession stand prices), seating, atmosphere, sound quality etc. Also the quality of the movie should be taken into account here.

I'm all for a tiered pricing structure at the theaters. If the movie you're seeing isn't drawing as many customers it shouldn't be priced as much either.

edit: the same values go towards concerts.
 

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Baldr said:
lotr rocks 0 said:
I don't like this patent personally. I like to film the concerts I go to for my own uses and so I can go back and watch it again some other time. That's not illegal, or at least I don't think it is. I would be pissed if they prohibited us from doing that just because some people might try to pirate it.
It is against US civil law to "record" copyrighted "performances", but it is up to the Artist/Copyright holders to enforce their own copyrights.
I have met very few musicians that are against cell phone recordings. Like you said, it's up to the artist(s) to enforce it during the performance. Some of my favorites seem to enjoy the publicity. Everyone loves to capture the concert experience, put it in their pocket, and remember it later. I don't know any record label that has been hurt in any way due to someone recording on their cell phone. The quality of both the sound and video on a phone is just too low. I think this anti-piracy technology is a step too far.

It's one thing to attempt to control a piece of software, but they are essentially policing reality at this point.
 

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Yay for Jail-breaking (which is totally legal and only in violation of the ToS and thus I am not supporting an illegal activity [see] [http://osxdaily.com/2010/07/26/is-jailbreaking-your-iphone-illegal-not-anymore/] [see] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking#United_States_legal_issues]).

Seriously, this is why I don't like Apple. I get it piracy is bad, I know I don't support it, but restricting access to something I bought is insane, if I breach a law via its use then I do, I get fined/jailed .ect. I don't want my phone mistaking a picture of a friend for some random reason and then it putting a watermark on it because the technology fails.

The anti-piracy thing is stupid, nobody records a film on an iPhone, a cheaper camcorder does a better job, more stable too. Pirates may be thieves but they only steal stuff worth stealing.

Nurb said:
"shut itself off"

Not only keep the camera from functioning but SHUTTING THE DEVICE OFF... And some of the kiddies here were giving me shit when I said people are too willing to let these greedy companies have more control over property they paid full price for

Jobs is the new 90's Gates.

SuperNova221 said:
Taking films of live events counts on an iPhone counts as piracy? That's just reta- ... wait. No. this will stop many of those idiots on youtube posting horrible quality recordings where you can only hear screams and wind with a blurry picture resembling a stage in the background shaking around a lot. Thanks for helping us get better quality recordings of live events apple.
The funny part is that people who post clips and bootleg concerts don't use iPhones or cell phones to record them in the first place. They're only pissing off their paying customers.

Wait, they're punishing the paying customers without affecting what the unethical people do? Sounds like Apple took up Game Industry DRM policy!
This ^

Scabadus said:
Apple have patented it, you say? Fantastic, that means my phone will never have this installed on it!
^ This

Although only if I can't Jailbreak the heck out of it to disable it, I like the iOS interface.
 

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If I am at a movie people need to have their phones off anyway because I didn't go to see Thor just to have half my vision blinded by the moron in front of me staring at his/her Facebook page. Not to mention if I did see someone recording the movie(it would have to be a blah scene for that to happen), I would be finding security. There is appreciating a movie, and then there is making it look like total crap on some bootleg file. That alone is a travesty.
On one hand, I got no problem with this. But on the other I think it is Apple shooting itself in the foot. The more active things they put on the iPhone to restrict its usage, the more people who will be switching to a Droid the next time around.
 

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McCa said:
Yay for Jail-breaking (which is totally legal and only in violation of the ToS and thus I am not supporting an illegal activity [see] [http://osxdaily.com/2010/07/26/is-jailbreaking-your-iphone-illegal-not-anymore/] [see] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking#United_States_legal_issues]).
I just wouldn't have high expectations of Apple passing on any good features to your phone after that, as they have the right to deny you service if you break the ToS or if they just get an itch up their butt. But that's Apple and that's why I don't deal with them.
Seriously, this is why I don't like Apple. I get it piracy is bad, I know I don't support it, but restricting access to something I bought is insane, if I breach a law via its use then I do, I get fined/jailed .ect. I don't want my phone mistaking a picture of a friend for some random reason and then it putting a watermark on it because the technology fails.
If your friend looks like Justin Bieber, you are screwed.
 

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samsonguy920 said:
McCa said:
Yay for Jail-breaking (which is totally legal and only in violation of the ToS and thus I am not supporting an illegal activity [see] [http://osxdaily.com/2010/07/26/is-jailbreaking-your-iphone-illegal-not-anymore/] [see] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking#United_States_legal_issues]).
I just wouldn't have high expectations of Apple passing on any good features to your phone after that, as they have the right to deny you service if you break the ToS or if they just get an itch up their butt. But that's Apple and that's why I don't deal with them.
Seriously, this is why I don't like Apple. I get it piracy is bad, I know I don't support it, but restricting access to something I bought is insane, if I breach a law via its use then I do, I get fined/jailed .ect. I don't want my phone mistaking a picture of a friend for some random reason and then it putting a watermark on it because the technology fails.
If your friend looks like Justin Bieber, you are screwed.
Oh yeah, if they make it impossible to do what I want it to do I simply wont buy it.

My main qualm with the watermarks is that low-end (i.e affordable) facial recognition software is awful, I mean half the time; modern cameras don't realise that my friends have faces. It's madness.

Jail-breaking happens with each version they release, I simply upgrade, re-break, restore my old Cydia apps via SSH and we are all fine and dandy. If they remove such features from all phones then they are insane and create a sub-par product in which case I'll get a 'droid.
 

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So wait, we're defending the assholes holding up their phones when I'm trying to enjoy a concert or movie? Is that what we're doing?

I didn't know there was such a huge fanbase on The Escapist for blurry-as-fuck, overexposed, sound-imploded, 2-megapixel home videos.

For the people thinking you can just set up an IR device and ruin people's day on a normal basis, go out and try that for yourself. You'd be surprised to learn that not everyone owns an iPhone, and to learn that people who do don't spend their time running around trying to capture everything on video. Sure you could theoretically piss off someone trying to take a picture or two, but that's about it.

I'm not an Apple fanboy; far from it, in fact. But this is the sort of agreement you make when you purchase an Apple product, they can implement shit like this all they want. If you don't like it, stop giving them money. Believe it or not, there are other phones and mp3 players on the market. I don't know why we have to keep feeding Apple.
 

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So....

Higher popularity for jail-breaking the iphone?? Apple, this is what you want?

Although

The same goes for music concerts, except that performers would have to start blasting infrared signals out into the audience for it to be effective. This I'm actually in favor of, because the amount of schmucks holding up an iPhone at concerts has got to be reduced somehow. What happened to actually enjoying the show? What's with all the freaking pictures, people?
Kind of agree with this
 

Vuirneen

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What about school concerts and stuff like that? Parents live for recording their children's performances.
 

Mantonio

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Oh look! Another thing to add to my absurdly long list of reasons why I never buy Apple products.