Draech said:
How can you quote me and then get it wrong?
I point out the same thing that you use 2 separate quotes. Am I going to defend myself against quotes you didn't read the full context of?
Wow, look at you, getting all defensive...To be honest, after reading what you've said so far, it's clear to me you genuinely have no clue how Apple makes money or where it stands in the market today.
"apple isn't the most successful hardware maker on the planet, and is indeed VERY unsuccessful when it comes to making gaming related hardware (apple pipin anyone? didn't think so)."
Yes, you said it wasn't the most successful hardware maker on the planet, and then you said "indeed", implying that
in addition to them being generally not the most successful hardware maker on the planet, they are equally unsuccessful when it comes to making gaming related hardware. So the point you were trying to make
wasn't just about "a specific type of hardware". Instead of standing by your original two statements you decided to just stick with one, and I pointed that out. Deal with it.
Ignoring the fact that Apple is behind the revolution of mobile gaming for the masses (unless you're going to tell me that doesn't count), there's many things wrong with both statements.
The least of which being your obviously warped definition of "success". You seem to think bigger numbers is better, which is why Cryo84R asked you "Who sells more hardware at a better margin?" Anyone with half a brain would know that success is profitability, not sales numbers.
Dont quote mine. It is intellectually dishonest.
Let's not talk about being intellectual, mkay? Because you're the one guilty of what you claim I am.
Go through more of my qoutes and you will find some more statistics
Yeah, the statistics are fine, just your interpretation of them are pretty hilarious.
But it is easier to use
http://www.electronicstakeback.com/hold-manufacturers-accountable/about-the-industry/
that another person found where I was putting numbers together from different reports.
Must be, seeing as there's that bit of fine print that says "PCs include desk-based PCs, mobile PCs, including mini-notebooks, but not media tablets such as the iPad." But don't let that stop you.
Let's go over the flaws in what you've said.
After being provided with proof that Apple is valued greater than Google and Microsoft combined, you're given statistics to back this claim up, and you shrug it off with "comparing apples to oranges".
You then proceed to say that Apple's revenue comes from software and not hardware. With what proof!? Are you fucking kidding me? When you buy Apple made software it is going on Apple-made hardware. I cannot go out and buy Keynote for my PC or put Lion on my HP laptop. When was the last time you saw someone what knew what Keynote was but didn't know what an iPod was? Their brand recognition is hardware. Not software. They make millions of different mobile devices.
Finally, you claim that Apple has had no success with gaming platforms. Have you seen the App store recently? It has, you know, games in there, and they're actually pretty, you know....
popular. Here, since asking you to provide real proof of your claims rather than statistics that you either ignore or misinterpret; where do you think the Angry Birds phenomenon started? Protip: it wasn't on the PS3...
Your logic is terrible, your bias is evident, and the anti-Apple crowd will follow you around like a group of faithful lapdogs purely because you're saying what they want to hear. I won't hesitate to drop the hammer of criticism on Apple in a heartbeat, but I won't illogically criticize them in the way you do.