Apple's Steve Jobs Calls Out Google, Adobe
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Totally awsome.Nurb said:
As someone who worked for a cellphone company, helping the masses figure how to turn their cellphone on, I possess an extreme hatred of the iPhone. It's not a very good phone and it costs one heck of a lot of money to use the internet on it, which is what it was designed to do. I have seen the thing in action and it fails to impress me, as have all other apple portable products. I am quite happy with my $40 MP3 and my DS, and if I need to get on the internet while out shopping for some extreme reason, I really need to reevaluate my lifestyle.
If all earth creatures would use the iPad then a relay will be established between our system and the dark space! Steve is working for the Reapers!
(sorry to much Mass Effect)
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Why attack Google...what exactly did they do wrong...I mean this is capitalism. You do something, someone out there finds a way to improve it and goes on the market with their own invention. Then you improve your invention and the cycle goes on. Evolution.
Adobe has the right to "bash" Apple for not including flash on the iPad. It's a very good game engine (or programing language? Not certain.) and , if implemented correctly, doesn't crash your computer (see Windows).
If it was $100 (and had Flash support) maybe I'd consider it...but I'll just add it to my list of Apple products I don't like (containing most of their stuff).
(sorry to much Mass Effect)
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Why attack Google...what exactly did they do wrong...I mean this is capitalism. You do something, someone out there finds a way to improve it and goes on the market with their own invention. Then you improve your invention and the cycle goes on. Evolution.
Adobe has the right to "bash" Apple for not including flash on the iPad. It's a very good game engine (or programing language? Not certain.) and , if implemented correctly, doesn't crash your computer (see Windows).
If it was $100 (and had Flash support) maybe I'd consider it...but I'll just add it to my list of Apple products I don't like (containing most of their stuff).
That's the way a douchebag would respond to critisism. The polite way to do things is to put your hands over your eyes & your frind's fingers in your ears & pretend you didn't read or hear anything.
I'm not going to get into iPhones and iPods, but he did do:dogstile said:
1. Personal computers marketed squarely for home use.
2. A graphic user interface for personal computers--one that is so taken-for-granted today that "GUI" is no longer a term.
Yes, it was Steve Jobs that brought these to us. What we know as personal computing today originated from Apple, and more specifically, it originated with the Macintosh.
I haven't seen one bug out of Flash in all the times I have used it. I think there were fears a few years back that it was vulnerable to a virus or two, but never saw anything out of that.
Methinks this may be the decade where Apple takes a plummet, and Jobs will get fired again. Disney may even find a way to get rid of him.
Is it just me or are more CEO's talking loonytunes than ever before? What water are they drinking?
Methinks this may be the decade where Apple takes a plummet, and Jobs will get fired again. Disney may even find a way to get rid of him.
Is it just me or are more CEO's talking loonytunes than ever before? What water are they drinking?
Edited to fix quote.
The iPad has a sense of cool to it, but so did the NGage. I am seeing a serious lack of support for a lot of media. It's supposed to be a PC Tablet yet it has no ports to speak of, not even USB. I have to wonder how one gets anything loaded on it short of internet access, if it has that even.
Odds are there will be an iPad 2.0 in the next year, but by then Apple will have eaten more capital than it should have. Not to mention the pads that other companies will have made by then with the features the iPad left at home, most likely LG, Blackberry, and HP(which apparently had already beat Apple to the punchline with a tablet of their own). If Jobs didn't have anything to do with designing this sucker, I'm hoping whoever did gets booted on their arse.
True that, but that was also 20...no...30 years ago. If things like that still held relevance then Ford would still be ranting how they made the car available to everyone. With this rant of his he is sounding way too crotchety, and that usually leads to a death in innovation. Usually.Fearzone said:
The iPad has a sense of cool to it, but so did the NGage. I am seeing a serious lack of support for a lot of media. It's supposed to be a PC Tablet yet it has no ports to speak of, not even USB. I have to wonder how one gets anything loaded on it short of internet access, if it has that even.
Odds are there will be an iPad 2.0 in the next year, but by then Apple will have eaten more capital than it should have. Not to mention the pads that other companies will have made by then with the features the iPad left at home, most likely LG, Blackberry, and HP(which apparently had already beat Apple to the punchline with a tablet of their own). If Jobs didn't have anything to do with designing this sucker, I'm hoping whoever did gets booted on their arse.
I know it was Xerox that invented the GUI. That was for mainframes. Jobs brought it to a personal computer.dogstile said:You know that little blue x that apple AND microsoft have on their software? (I think its an x anyway) Yeah, thats the company that came up with the GUI, not Steve. Sorry
OK, fine, I'm just saying, both Microsoft and Apple both took ideas from it. And computers would have gotten smaller regardless. With the GUI, no matter what, it will have happened. With or without Steve. Which isn't to say he did nothing impressive, its just that I find that point a little... well, overused, considering it was happening anyway. He's just the face in front of it all.Fearzone said:I know it was Xerox that invented the GUI. That was for mainframes. Jobs brought it to a personal computer.dogstile said:You know that little blue x that apple AND microsoft have on their software? (I think its an x anyway) Yeah, thats the company that came up with the GUI, not Steve. Sorry
Yes, fine, my last word is: Microsoft gave us Windows only when they started losing serious market share to Apple. You probably recall the legal battle that ensued. Micro$oft prevailed. Today they rule the PC world with Windows 7 (which is the first Windows version I like better than the Mac OS), and Apple's most exciting product is the iPhone.dogstile said:
You understand, of course, that by using the hackneyed "Micro(dollarsign)oft" motif, you have... uhm... damaged your credibility a bit [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/].Fearzone said:
The thing that tickles my funnybone about all of this is that Microsoft has somewhat morphed into this " we hate them, but they are so large and powerful that it's kind of a waste of time", while Apple- who was the 'little guy' and the 'common dude spitting in the face of the MAN' has morphed into the pre-2000 Microsoft, and now Google has taken Apple's place as innovators and trendy, alternative-channel software providers.
Guess what, folks? They are ALL (MS, Google, Apple, Adobe...) in the game to make a profit. Nobody is shelling out tons of money to develop world-improving software! If there isn't a buck to be made, they aren't doing it, regardless of what your naive mind may wish to believe. It's called capitalism. And before you throw up the *nix counter-argument, I'll just say this: you really believe that those guys weren't looking for recognition for their programming skills? While I will stipulate that there are about 0.00000001 percent brain-damaged people who are just showing off, most of them are doing it to put it on their resume.
but then again, I am known for being a cynical bastard.
Like wise, on a rare occasion some file demands to be opened by quicktime on my computer then everything locks up for 5 minutes and once I get rid of it I boot the clip up in VLC and its perfect but Adobe do seem lazy, still no hint of 64bit compatability on my computer is getting a little tedious, anything I launch from a widget comes in 64bit explorer then I have to copy the URL to a 32bit session. 64bit is hardly new anymore.ryukage_sama said:
I used to like iPods but that was because I was young and naive, now the lack of versatility is getting annoying, I think I'll be getting an iLess smart phone to replace it when the time comes, or maybe sooner.
EDIT: I've been bashing apple too much lately, now iTunes is refusing to open, time to reboot.
EDIT2: wow, when I rebooted the computer having the locked up iPod plugged in made it stall at the motherboard boot screen. All better now though. You'd be surprised that I'm not making this up.
Amiga... lol? Epic fail more like it.Major Tom said:
With the Commodore 64 you have a valid argument, like the Vic 20, TRS-80, Timex Sinclair, and Atari PC and other Apple competitors at the time. I hated Apple 2's myself, the Commodore 64 was a better machine, but Apple caught the mainstream, rather than the fringe.
Never liked Apple, horrid company in my opinion. I sense a bit of fear in Steve Jobs about the opposing companies.
No, it's not. Unless there has been some miraculous increase and improvement of it that I have yet to find out about. Flash is still a huge item in the digital world, so many entire sites devoted to it. Would that mean browsing the internet on this ipad would become somewhat pointless? How would you view Youtube? What about entire flash based websites? Puzzles me.oppp7 said:
Of course Steve thinks Google's "Don't be Evil" is crap, because he's incapable of thinking anybody being morally better than him, and he's a morally corrupt bastard. Hell he would screw over his best friend if it meant he got more money (and in fact, he did just that).
