Are books still relevant?

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FalloutJack

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Since I am a writer, I'd better damn well think of books as relevant, otherwise I've chosen the wrong calling in life. Or, to put that another way, I do seriously find books to be relevant, as there are still these things called libraries and bookstores. Quaint little things, I know, but here's a kicker for ya. Not everything can be done electronically. If I sell a story for a million bucks and it ends up in digital media, fine. But it's still a story and story implies pages. And not every corner of the world or even just the United States has easy access you games, DVDs, and what-have-you. A lack of decent stores can occur with limited availability of the various entertainment sectors.

Now, onto the point of books themselves. Let's compare them with their movie counterparts and look at the track record. Okay, a number of Stephen King movies range from decent to good, depending on what story they're adapted from. You can count on anything written by Neil Gaiman to be done well on the big screen because HE is the one in control. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was a smash hit despite the fact that Douglas Adams never got to see it finished. However, the book-movies don't all pan out perfectly and some miss the mark.

Let's take a few hits from Michael Critchton, author of Jurassic Park, The Lost World (JP's sequel book), The Terminal Man, Andromeda Strain, Sphere, and so freakin' on. I've read all the above examples and seen their movie counterparts. To the movies, I say "Not bad.". We all liked the two JP movies because they were freakin' based off of the work of a decent author. Everything after that? Fuck it. The books were more violent and involved, of course, but what book isn't? Terminal Man and Andromeda Strain were pretty good, for their time. They were made in a classic age in an old style which fit the ways of the author. Kind of like watching a Hitchcock movie. You still love it in this day and age. Only beef I have with Andromeda Strain was that later-made, playing-to-our-stereotypes-and-screwing-up-the-STORY two part version of it. Oh, and Sphere? I liked it, and I liked the cast they put in it, but it needed to be more involved and we needed to see more of the squid.

So really, movies over books? That's a hit-or-miss situation with nine-tenths of the bullseye missing and you're using blunt darts. You need a BOOK to GUIDE the story, WHATEVER the venue. Or at least...you need a book-writer to make it brilliant from the start. Kind of like Joss Whedon. I don't think books will become irrelevent. I'm HOPING bad writers do.
 

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Without Books Kinokuniya and Borders I would die a cretin. Those two bookshops stock all the stuff I'm interested in, not just manga and graphic novels but the REAL James Bond stories written by Ian Fleming, where you discover James Bond is a completely misogynist and racist arsehole, not like he is in the cleaned up movies. You also figure out in a bookshop that Blade Runner was based on a book by Phillip K. Dick, and that Howl's Moving Castle, one of my favorite, but controversial Ghibli movies to watch, was written as a book by Diana Wynne Jones. In a sense, Wynne is her middle name, so you know that book is WIN.
 

thenuminator

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If books truly did become irelavent it would be a sad day for humanity. And i personaly belive that if books do become irrelavent humanity would have peaked and be on the down hill. There is so much that you can not find in other mediums. So much fealing that you can not portray,
 

joystickjunki3

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SuperMse said:
Flying-Emu said:
joystickjunki3 said:
And classic rock is definitely not relevant because the majority of the people I know do not appreciate it.
I'm tempted to make a poll to see if anyone knows the meaning of relevance.

For something to be relevant, it has to have an effect on something modern. Since, without AC/DC or The Beatles, we wouldn't have modern music, it sure as hell is still relevant.

Also, the majority of people I know are classic metalheads; Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, etc.

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Yes. Books are the most viable medium we have as of yet to convey a lengthy story in detail. Movies can't, since they're sadly constrained by an arbitrary "2+ hours=TOO LONG PETER JACKSON". Television shows can't, since they're rarely taken seriously. Video games can't, since they're not respected (and are actually reviled) by a significant portion of the community.

Books, now...

Books, since their words are permanently printed onto a sheet of wood, allow for a pick-up-and-go style. They allow for deep, introspective looks at Ego (as in the Latin word for Self), sprawling, beautiful epics, etcetera.

Also, I was offended by your comment that they'd rather go to church. I am a faithful churchgoer and enjoy the weekly sermon. I'll not be so totalitarian as to request it be changed, but I felt it important to let you know that that can be construed as offensive. (Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.)
I think he was being sarcastic about classic rock.
I was most definitely being sarcastic.
 

joystickjunki3

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Flying-Emu said:
joystickjunki3 said:
And classic rock is definitely not relevant because the majority of the people I know do not appreciate it.
I'm tempted to make a poll to see if anyone knows the meaning of relevance.

For something to be relevant, it has to have an effect on something modern. Since, without AC/DC or The Beatles, we wouldn't have modern music, it sure as hell is still relevant.

Also, the majority of people I know are classic metalheads; Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, etc.

@topic
Yes. Books are the most viable medium we have as of yet to convey a lengthy story in detail. Movies can't, since they're sadly constrained by an arbitrary "2+ hours=TOO LONG PETER JACKSON". Television shows can't, since they're rarely taken seriously. Video games can't, since they're not respected (and are actually reviled) by a significant portion of the community.

Books, now...

Books, since their words are permanently printed onto a sheet of wood, allow for a pick-up-and-go style. They allow for deep, introspective looks at Ego (as in the Latin word for Self), sprawling, beautiful epics, etcetera.

Also, I was offended by your comment that they'd rather go to church. I am a faithful churchgoer and enjoy the weekly sermon. I'll not be so totalitarian as to request it be changed, but I felt it important to let you know that that can be construed as offensive. (Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.)
Sarcasm, dude, sarcasm. I thought that the rest of the post it clear that I disagree w/ the OP. But I understand that the written word doesn't always convey sarcasm, so no worries.
 

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I'm a sucker for crappy books. I'm sure a lot of others are too, that's why they are being published en-mass for us junkies.
Books are solid foundation to gaming. Most games take their inspiration to a degree from a piece of literature (RPGs are often the most guilty in this department). Movies too, draw on inspirations from earlier literatures (or are outright film adaptations).
Then there are books in other forms--text books, non-fictions, etc, will never go away completely.
No matter what other media may have to offer, no single media is as "precise" as texts, hence it will always be the highest form of entertainment. And by precise, I mean that the creator/author can guide you to exact details of the events. I believe that the best part of entertainment media is always in the little details that really bring the world to life. No amount of pixels can direct your attention, and hence draw you into the world, like books.
 

Acaroid

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Why are books still relevant, on a pure academic term they cant be more valuable... yeah the interest is all well and good but anyone can write what they like (which makes it awesome, just not reliable). Books have alot of processes that they have to go thought before they are published, so just on that note, yes they are....
Oh and without books where would Hollywood steal its ideas for movies?
 

theultimateend

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As a guy who reads probably 20-50 pages a night from everything from super heroes to astrophysics and beyond Id' say books are so relevant these days that its not even funny.

Next to Sex and sleep there isn't much else that I want on my plate each night I get into bed.
 

TheDukester

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The day people like Vonnegut, Eggers, and Hurston become irrelevant is the day I'm moving to an island.

"I have a message for future generations, and that is 'Please accept our apologies.'"
-Kurt Vonnegut
 

Labyrinth

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Hell fucking yes.

Let me extend on that. Ever since words and ideas have been written down and made available after the original speaker has finished, they've had the power to reach beyond a first-run audience. In today's society I would argue that books are even more important, because we need to read more than we do. Such ideas as are contained in post-modern texts and works of genius such as Catch 22 are flames which need to be kept alive. The language and human lifestyle would be much the poorer without books.

That said, there are some really REALLY shit books around. Avoid them.
 

Sweep117

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I assume we'r talking about fiction, right? Actually, my post doesn't really change if not.

I can't believe no one's mentioned Robert Jordan's series, The Wheel of Time! Best fantasy series ever written, in my opinion but I'm no judge... ;)

Let's compare books to movies. What's the ratio of books made into movies to movies made into books? I think I can safely say that many more books are made into movies than the other way around. That doesn't prove that books are still relevant but I think it shows that our culture literature highly enough to want to express it in other forms of art.

Books are an art form. Art is definetly relevant. I may not understand much of it but many people do. Books are a form of expression. Expression will never die.

This post seems a little empty but I'm at work and I'm gonna get caught if I sit here typing too long.