Are nerds/geeks/gamers/whateverweare more kinky?

Anja Bech

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Since joining my local BDSM community I've come to realize something I find quite interesting; almost all of the people I've met and connected with, meaning I've had more than an idle chat or two with them, have turned out to be some kind of geek. Games, music, movies, photography, role-playing, both live and pen and paper. Some are awkwardly stereotype-y, but most are just like anyone else (sorry, I know that sounds kinda shitty but I couldn't think of any other way to word it).

So here's my question; do you think this could be a general trend, that openly kinky people tend to be more nerdy? Why/why not?

In this context I'm just taking people in the BDSM community into account, but you can obviously be kinky without being affiliated with any kind of BDSM or kink group.
 

Duster

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A thing fetishists and hobbyists have in common is early media exposure. Any sort of increased media exposure during development(youth) increases the amount of things you could associate with love and sexual behavior. So hobbyism usually comes first, and all it does is slightly increase the chance of having kinks. There isn't really a direct correlation.

Although a community feeding the flame or not often has an influence on if they actually practice it or not. On 4chan, roughly 50-75% of the users have clear fetishes. Here the percent is much lower, i'd guess 10%~, and that includes mostly vannilla fetishes, such as feet or lingerie. Nearly every board posts porn or at least echi of related topics constantly in discussion, whereas here that would result in a swift banishment.
 

Anja Bech

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thaluikhain said:
Is it a thing about people in a subculture being in other subcultures?
Yeah, something like that I guess. I'm just curious as to why these two would coincide, if they even do at all.
Duster said:
A thing fetishists and hobbyists have in common is early media exposure. So compared to the average population there are usually more kinksters among hobbyists/nerds than the average population, but it's still a small portion.

I think it also has to do with nurturing communities. On 4chan, roughly 50-75% of the users have clear fetishes. Here the percent is much lower, i'd guess 10%~. Nearly every board posts porn or at least echi of related topics constantly in discussion, whereas here that would result in a swift banishment.
I'm not so sure I understand the early media exposure bit. It is because they can find online communities to explore their 'hobby' safely and free of judgement or is it exposure to media as in porn and sex in general? Or maybe it's a whole other thing that I'm completely missing. Sorry if I'm being dense. ^^''
 

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I keep misreading "whateverweare" as "underwear".

Take from that what you will.

For what it's worth, the kinkiest person I've ever met doesn't really know much about technology stuff in general. She's played games in the past, but not with any sort of regularity.
 

Weaver

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Is kinky exclusive to BDSM? See, I've just never been into it. I've dated women who were and that's fine, I just... I dunno. It literally does nothing for me for some reason.

That said, I certainly like to make sex interesting let's say.
 

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Anja Bech said:
I'm not so sure I understand the early media exposure bit.
Fetishes usually develop at a young age. It's when a young mind associates a non sexual thing with love or sex. Emo's, who date other emo's, often grow up and become sexual sadists or masochists. People who grow up in strict homes sometimes have a fetish for being controlled. If your female siblings hide their feet like they hide their privates, you may grow up perceiving feet as something sexually intimidating.

increased media exposure increases the amount of exposure to everything, and therefore an increased chance of alternative sexual perception than just two parents and wherever they take you.
 

Someone Depressing

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Probably, though it most likely just comes from games already being pretty fanservice-laden, and more people being introduced to gaming at childhood.

Just go onto any ruleless/user run image board, especially the one centered around video games or other media. There will be porn. Weird porn. I'm pretty sure 2ch still has its adult kemono and guro boards (Very, very, very very very NSFW, especially that second one) and even on forums like this there are a surprising amount of discussions about sexy shenanagins.

So, yes? I don't have a decent explanation for it, but I'm sure if you ask around you'll get a better answer.
 

Pete Oddly

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I can't speak for your experiences, but the local fetishists in and around my area are profoundly geeky. I went to a meet and greet for the local BDSM folks about a year ago, and all of us were similarly geek-oriented in one way or another. At a party where I expected the talk to revolve almost exclusively around sex, we talked more about videogames, movies, comics and anime than anything else.

In fact, a group of about ten of them got together and went to Fan Expo as kinky versions of classic videogame characters, including Bondage Princess Peach and Sadomasochist Zelda.
 

Clearwaters

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I'd say yes. Some less reputable forums I go to for games and other geeky things are usually filled with fetish and sex talk to the point where it gets kind of annoying.

However I'm rather prudish.
 

CrystalViolet

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I doubt it. I think it's more the case that tech-savvy or geeky people are more likely to join forums or go to these kind of meetings. I've seen plenty of BDSM swingers in my local bar and they're the furthest thing from geeky. They kind of scare me with leopardskin pants and wrinkly skin *shudders*
 

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Anja Bech said:
Since joining my local BDSM community I've come to realize something I find quite interesting; almost all of the people I've met and connected with, meaning I've had more than an idle chat or two with them, have turned out to be some kind of geek. Games, music, movies, photography, role-playing, both live and pen and paper. Some are awkwardly stereotype-y, but most are just like anyone else (sorry, I know that sounds kinda shitty but I couldn't think of any other way to word it).

So here's my question; do you think this could be a general trend, that openly kinky people tend to be more nerdy? Why/why not?

In this context I'm just taking people in the BDSM community into account, but you can obviously be kinky without being affiliated with any kind of BDSM or kink group.
Well this depends on what you mean by "kinky". To be honest with you just about everyone is "kinky" when you get down to it, anyone who has had sex has probably played around with handcuffs, spanking, and different positions. Non-kinky straight missionary position sex is something I think it's unusual to stick with in an ongoing relationship, not to say that it hasn't happened. Of course nearly everyone maintains that they are entirely "normal" when it comes to sex.

Sex also tends to be a fairly private thing, and can oftentimes get away from one's public persona and the face they show the world, which can cause problems. For example if some dude who happens to be powerful, likes to be weak, dominated, and hurt in the bedroom, showing a real side of himself there, this can affect public image if it comes out (to use a stereotypical example).

As far as kink in geekdom goes your generally dealing with a lot of people who are pretty imaginative, and that tends to come out in ways beyond simply the games and such they play. What's more you'll notice there is a LOT of fetish material, leather and lace, BDSM, etc.. all through sword and sorcery and fantasy artwork, implied if not shown, and some of it is spelled out pretty well at times. The two things have gone together quite a bit for a long time, though one thing I have noticed when it comes to geekdom is people involved in the community tend to be too nervous to see it come out full tilt in anything that is produced.

That said it should also be noted that I think a lot of it comes from sexual frustration, geeks, especially guys, tend to not be traditionally attractive, and frankly the "adorkable" geek girl is pretty rare. After a while normal porn stops doing the trick so to speak (I mean you can only watch sex so many ways). I also believe this is why you see a lot of geek guys trying to play perverted characters in RPGs and such at times, especially if they can do so anonymously, a sort of vicarious wish fulfillment. Of course embarrassment usually prevents this from going anywhere.

Geeks are becoming more of a social force in the media and entertainment world than ever before, up to the point where you see a lot of "faux geeks" who like the same stuff and claim geekdom, without the obsession or social pariah status (either by choice, the genetic lottery, or social pressures). I don't think it's a mistake this is also happening around the time of a sexual revolution of sorts where kink and such is becoming more open at least in the US than it has been before, though it's hardly commonplace display nowadays.

Understand also, having geeky interests or claiming the status today does not make someone a geek. Like it or not things like Star Wars, Star Trek, comic books, and similar things have been popular enough to endure for decades and be a big business. What makes a geek is not so much that they like these things, but the extent to which they involve themselves with them. Basically your probably not a geek if you stop by the news stand a couple times a week and regularly buy a couple of comic titles which you follow. You can say have read a few hundred issues of Batman over your lifetime without being a nerd. On the other hand if you follow tons of different comics AND happen to be an obsessive expert on Star Wars and Star Trek, AND also play PnP RPGs, to the point where this form of escapism represents a lifestyle and the time invested in it comes in lieu of more practical skills and such... then yes, your a geek. Given that many geeky things are now in the mainstream you see a lot more casual knowledge of things that used to be highly specialized as well.

Also remember that "Gor" which is a massive fantasy series, alongside things like "Marketplace" have contributed heavily to the BDSM subculture, to the point where people even lead "Gorean lifestyles" and you see women being branded with the symbol(s) from the book, enduring ear notching (more rare), and similar things as signs of submission. So even going back decades now you can find connections between geekdom and kink communities.
 

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Pete Oddly said:
I can't speak for your experiences, but the local fetishists in and around my area are profoundly geeky. I went to a meet and greet for the local BDSM folks about a year ago, and all of us were similarly geek-oriented in one way or another. At a party where I expected the talk to revolve almost exclusively around sex, we talked more about videogames, movies, comics and anime than anything else.

In fact, a group of about ten of them got together and went to Fan Expo as kinky versions of classic videogame characters, including Bondage Princess Peach and Sadomasochist Zelda.
A fellow Ontario guy! We should be friends.
 

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Pete Oddly said:
Weaver said:
A fellow Ontario guy! We should be friends.
Woo! Ontario! Land of few jobs and excellent breweries.
I know, right? I'm having trouble finding work in my apparently booming industry. Thank god I have great beer to drown my troubles in :p
 

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Anja Bech said:
Since joining my local BDSM community I've come to realize something I find quite interesting; almost all of the people I've met and connected with, meaning I've had more than an idle chat or two with them, have turned out to be some kind of geek. Games, music, movies, photography, role-playing, both live and pen and paper. Some are awkwardly stereotype-y, but most are just like anyone else (sorry, I know that sounds kinda shitty but I couldn't think of any other way to word it).

So here's my question; do you think this could be a general trend, that openly kinky people tend to be more nerdy? Why/why not?

In this context I'm just taking people in the BDSM community into account, but you can obviously be kinky without being affiliated with any kind of BDSM or kink group.
Why yes? have you considered that you, a geek, has easier ways of talking to geeks and that is why the ones you talk more too are also geeks?

I see no such correlation. The internet groups BDSM I've been to are normal, with some geeks/nerds in of course, but I wouldn't say especially. Unless any kind of passion, for anything (which including music, movies, etc.) is geeky, in which everyone is a geek of some kind (sports geek, movie geek, art geek). As for my slave, she is not a geek of movies, music, games, role-playing (no-sexual). She likes fantasy but also myriad of other books. I may be a geek in the traditional sense,she isn't.

Role-playing is also very normal, but in a non-geeky way, in BDSM, seeing there are whole plays, likr pet play, that revolve around it.

Duster said:
Anja Bech said:
I'm not so sure I understand the early media exposure bit.
Fetishes usually develop at a young age. It's when a young mind associates a non sexual thing with love or sex. Emo's, who date other emo's, often grow up and become sexual sadists or masochists. People who grow up in strict homes sometimes have a fetish for being controlled. If your female siblings hide their feet like they hide their privates, you may grow up perceiving feet as something sexually intimidating.

increased media exposure increases the amount of exposure to everything, and therefore an increased chance of alternative sexual perception than just two parents and wherever they take you.
Source? I'm from a liberal family, that didn't expose me to that much media at a young age, and I'm kinky as hell (even by BDSM standards the amount of practices I do is pretty large and varied). I wasn't emo, nor my salve was emo, nor was she form a strict family (nor I) nor any other of the reasons you give. So I doubt that reasoning, unless proven otherwise. What would explain early sadist, masochists, like Sade or Sacher-Masoch? What media? is the community larger these days or is ti more open only (that would negate the conclusion you are espousing)? Are some of those people really BDSM (for example, a fair amount of Fifty Shades aren't really BDSM practitioners, nor masochists, nor sadists, nor fetishists, nor any thing that resembles BDSM) or just curious and pretty tame?
 

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Weaver said:
Pete Oddly said:
Weaver said:
A fellow Ontario guy! We should be friends.
Woo! Ontario! Land of few jobs and excellent breweries.
I know, right? I'm having trouble finding work in my apparently booming industry. Thank god I have great beer to drown my troubles in :p
That Black Creek brewery is something else, I tell you what.