Davroth said:
Phoenixmgs said:
It just seemed weird calling someone's opinion not objective enough basically. There's plenty of reasons to think CDPR won't be able to outdo Deus Ex as I'll get into with a reply just below this.
Oh, I get it. You never played Witcher 3 didn't you? Otherwise there's literally no way you could say that. You don't have a shred of evidence other than a work in progress video presentation, anyway. Why do you feel the need to crap on a game that wont be out for at least a few years based on an early peak? Your precious Deus Ex is old, and has aged poorly in many respects. And its sequels have been less than impressive.
There's plenty of reasons to be wary of Cyberpunk 2077 at this point. The most obvious is that CDPR only has 3 major games under their belt, all from the same series, and that apart from those three games they've only made two more games, one being a CCG and the other an incredibly short-lived MOBA for mobile.
Another reason is that Cyberpunk 2077 was announced waaaaay back in May 2012 with the first teaser trailer coming out in January 2013. That's
at least 6,5 years of development time put into the game at this point, which puts Cyberpunk 2077 in the same league as S.T.A.L.K.E.R (announced 2001, released 2007), Prey (the original) and Duke Nuke'em Forever in terms of protracted development periods. The fact that after 6,5 years all CDPR has to show is a pre-alpha work-in-progress vertical slice should worry all of us, because that's a clear indication that Cyberpunk is having a troubled development.
On top of that we should remember that considering game mechanics the Witcher 3 wasn't a smash hit, with a janky slightly-above-average combat system, a rather uninspired leveling system (which was still the best of the trilogy) and an open world that was quite sparse in terms of player interaction. The Witcher 3 managed to cover all that by the strength of its open world ambiance, great moment to moment writing and ability to immerse the player in the world and story. In a traditional 3rd person RPG you can get away with these sins, but a FPS is much more susceptible to faltering if its core mechanics aren't absolutely rock solid, especially if it comes out in the triple-A bracket.
That's not to say that CDPR can't pull it off, but their current showing shouldn't be confidence inspiring for anyone. They've shown a clearly doctored trailer of footage they themselves admit won't represent the final product after maintaining radio silence for 5,5 years. At this point Cyberpunk should be seen as a promising pitch, without anything to back it up and several hurdles that have to be cleared before CDPR can deliver on said pitch.