Ask a Gun owner
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good to defend your sorry buttocks when a group of deranged people decide to pay you and your family a visit one good evening.Di22y said:
After a tragic incident involving 4 us soldiers killing another us soldier and his wife, heh, I sure as hell wouldn't want to support a family without the means to defend it.
Then again, there are some folks who are unlucky enough to be in 'bad' neighborhood.
I think that crime is caused by many things, guns are not one of the things. Therefore banning guns because of crime is a bandaid approachJamanticus said:
It is intellectually dishonest of me to say that guns have no factor in crime, they make some crimes easier and some crimes harder (such as self defense)
I also think many gun laws are unconstitutional.
I think that the majority of americans dont know just how many gun laws there are, and get their information from bad sources leading them to bad conclusions.
Which is why I posted this
And finally, I think liberty is not safe, beware those arguing for safety
Thats tough, because most gun owners are really very safety minded. its very important to be safety minded. Also, most of my gun experiences are with family membersAlex_P said:
You are going to be disappointed, because about the stupidest thing I have seen anybody do is pick up a strangers gun in their house without asking permission or knowing enough about it to see if it was loaded (It was)
It came to nothing because I immediately took it from them and unloaded it. If you see a gun in someones house, ask permission before touching it.
The coolest....hmm.
I saw my brother shoot the branch out from under a squirrel, he didnt want to kill and clean it but his idiot friend was insisting he shoot it, so he made it appear to be shot, He is a very good shot.
I am not sure it is illegal in my area, but I live in a rural area. Though any stray bullet that causes damage or injures someone is still the shooters responsibility. (IE, kill someone with a stray and face charges)HSIAMetalKing said:
Anyway, its highly stupid and I cringe everytime I see someone on TV do it, it gives a bad impression of gun owners.
BTW, a shotgun is safe to shoot into the air, it shoots small pellets which have a limited range and very little force per pellet. (unless you move into slugs or heavy shot, but thats getting too complicated)
As mentioned, shooting straight up is unlikely to result in death (still dumb) shooting at an upward angle but not straight up can do so very easily.
Thats why one of the cardinal rules of shooting is to know whats beyond your target, always have a backstop, bullets go for miles if they dont run into something (doesnt mean they are accurate for miles)
'Deranged people' can't really get the rights to possess guns, now do they? ... Thanks to some extensive background checks of the person looking to acquire one ... also, my opinion on who should be able to get a gun, differs from what the norm is in the US.Di22y said:
And to answer your question, I won't think twice before pulling the trigger on anyone who want to harm my family.
Some news for you. Rights dont exist. How do so many people manage to get their hands on fire arms, I seem to recall more than one incident where a student has run rampage at a number of academies in the US and at a primary school in the UK, thats just off the top of my head.cainx10a said:
Yep, pretty broad. Especially depending on the meaning of "powerful" I will assume you mean longest range.RebelRising said:
For an easy answer, most any .50 BMG rifle, they shoot at 1000 meters pretty easily and can shoot around 3000 with a practiced hand.
There are a few similar weapons based on metric rounds, 13MM and etc, like this one
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn46-e.htm
they have a similar capability. but the .50 BMG is much more common to my knowledge, as the round is much more common. I am not sure if any have actually been put to use in the battlefield.
For other measures of power, the .50 BMG can fire exploding rounds (RAUFOSS) which gives them the ability to take out APCs. Those rounds are not civilian legal.
(funny story, military .50 BMG sniping emerged from carlos hathcocks cobbled together M2 browning but mostly from civilians who manufactured long range target rifles from them for fun)
Regardless, these are more like cannons, outside of miniature artillery weapons its not the gun that makes the sniper, most sniper weapons are chambered in the same or a similar caliber, 7.62X51, also called 7.62 Nato (russians used 7.62X54R) So most sniper rifles are of roughly equal power.
Guns are for throwing rocks, really fast and really small rocks.Di22y said:
Anything else is user intent.
Thats such a huge question I am not sure how to answer.Connor Lonske said:
Some for sentiment (first rifle, etc)
Some for historical (replicas or originals of historical weapons, civil war and WWII only so far, thought I want more)
Some for specific purpose (hunting, snake defense)
Some are just fun, for target shooting.
Most guns can fill several roles, a historic military weapon can easily be used for hunting (thousands were manufactured, there are plenty of museum pieces) a target shooting weapon is also good for snake defense.
Its much like asking a golfer why he has so many clubs, wont just one do?
The 'bullet fired straight up' thing is wildly open to interpretation. Terminal velocities vary by mass & air friction (as well as some other factors), and kinetic energy is a property of both mass & velocity. A large enough bullet will be lethal.
It's all a matter of finding how large of a bullet.
It's all a matter of finding how large of a bullet.
I think its fine, I dont expect everyone to enjoy guns, but I ask them to respect my rights.Nazulu said:
Mostly I think they havent been exposed to guns properly, fear is good when dealing with anything capable of killing, I dont know a single gun owner who doesnt know that their gun is capable of killing them and doesnt have a reasonable fear of it, they use that fear to heighten their caution.
Thats a complex question.Nazulu said:
The age at which an individual may legally purchase a firearm is 18 for longarms (rifles and shotguns) and 21 for handguns.
Any younger and no store will sell one to you, and it would be difficult to lie with the insta-check system.
However, parents are allowed to purchase firearms and give them to children as gifts, when to give such a gift is a parental decision, thought its generall after the age of 10-12, after several years of firearm instruction and with restrictions (such as, can only shoot it when I am present, etc) Ownership in this instance is a matter of parenting, as, legally, until 18 everything the child owns pretty much belongs to the parent anyway.
Is muppet supposed to be an insult?Di22y said:
I have apparently been using my guns wrong then, they have killed nobody, they have only thrown small rocks really fast, generally at tin cans or other targets, occasionally at wildlife which I think looks tasty.
A good portion of modern day heavy caliber sniper weapons systems also derives from the anti-tank rifles of first and second World Wars. The large high velocity rounds allowed for armor piercing. Their primary point of target was tank treads and tracks. Once immobile and if additional support was not on hand to destroy the tank, secondary targets were trying to put a round through the armor into where the gas tanks, ammunition storage or gunners/drivers would be.Mathurin said:
This is also why you see most of these rifles classified as anti-material rifles. They still retain the punch needed to go through the soft armor of light vehicles. Later on, as you said, snipers and enthusiasts started taking advantage of the rounds inherent high velocity to hit targets further down range.