Assassin's Creed III Declares Independence from England

Smiley Face

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Okay, it's got potential, it's a pretty different locale, they could do new stuff with it. They probably won't, but I'm keeping my hopes up. I'm willing to bet that historical inaccuracy and revisionism will abound - you know, beyond the artistic license they usually go with.
 

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Random Argument Man said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Meh.

I don't see it working well.

As I have pointed out before, Victorian England, the Russian revolution, or the fall of the Aztec empire would work much better.
The Russian revolution is already done in the comics. The fall of the Aztec empire won't work (for now since we're following Desmond's ancestors and Ezio died 1524. The empire fell in 1521) (But hey, maybe when we don't follow Desmond's story).

Victorian England would be a nice setting. American revolution is not a used setting, but it does kinda fits with the end of AC:Revelations (if people payed attention).

However.....Tomahawk...This is just made of pure win.

Judging by the box art. The new assassins looks really gritty. Another revenge story? A guy who have known war since he was born? Someone who got in touch with the native american and refused to battle the "gentleman" way?
Just because it was done in the comics doesn't mean it wouldn't work in the game.

An aztec setting would work, it would just have to be via the mother's side. AC: legends featured it, too.
 

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I will laugh very hard indeed if the Assassin you control in this game, is a pro-American, native-raised force of death.
If he is raised by Aboriginals, then he should be neutral, he should hate everyone equally. But if he is pro-American, then I am disappoint.
 

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Kabhaq said:
Weren't some of the Founding Fathers associated with the Free-Masons, which were derivative of the Knights Templar? This could be interesting. As will be the shitstorm it starts if we get to kill some powder-wigg'ed patriots.
Man, I keep forgetting that Ubisoft is french. I can just imagine the FOX explosion once that hits the air, because that will most definitely be a feature, if not a significant part of the story.
 

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Waaghpowa said:
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I must say a imperialist....Well, a Englishman.

"You Fools!! You will forever regret leaving the glorious empire!!"
And now those Frenchmen from Ubisoft are going to slander the English! Typical French!
I imagine that, like the first game, they'll let you dive-bomb-sword-stabby-knifey-throwy your way through both contesting factions (in this case Brits and Colonials) with equal measure.

For me, I guess this is an added incentive to get around to playing Revelations, as I haven't even bought that game yet. But here's hoping 3 is as every bit an improvement as 2 was over 1.
 

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W-wait! I haven't even finished Revelations! Or Assassin's Creed 1! Uhh...can I replay Assassin's Creed 2 first?! What about Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood's multiplayer!? UGHHH!

Seriously, Ubisoft! We all know you're AC crazy as of lately, but come on! You're making me hate a series that I love so much! And this game looks freakin' interesting and all, but gimme some time to catch my breath!

*Sigh* I guess I'll preorder it if it comes with a nice goodie or something, like AC:Brohood did.
 

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Orange12345 said:
FINALLY, a new assassin's creed that has a NEW MAIN CHARACTER to follow
Still, I can't help but think Desmond, unlikeable tool he his, should get off his lazy ass and deal with the current apocalypse scenario. I'm sure after Brotherhood he was plenty crazy to think he's Altaïr. I'm not sure how the assassins can justify this much of a budget so one person can know enough for a C+ in a highschool history class.
 

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BristolBerserker said:
Well the studio that makes AC is in Canada so hopefully it won't be a complete one sided 'Yanks=good, Brits=bad' affair.
Hey now, we Canucks are part of the Commonwealth, too. However, since this is a Ubisoft Montreal development, it could go either way...
 

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Why does it feel like Ubisoft is getting patriotic all of a sudden? First Rainbow Six Patriots and now this.
 

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Apparently it is going to conclude Desmond's story, so we better had get to control him as an assassin...

Also wasn't there supposedly a connection between the Knights Templar, the Masons and the Founding Fathers? Therefore wouldn't the assassins be fighting against the Americans? This box art is making it appear otherwise.
 

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Random Argument Man said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Meh.

I don't see it working well.

As I have pointed out before, Victorian England, the Russian revolution, or the fall of the Aztec empire would work much better.
The Russian revolution is already done in the comics. The fall of the Aztec empire won't work (for now since we're following Desmond's ancestors and Ezio died 1524. The empire fell in 1521) (But hey, maybe when we don't follow Desmond's story).

Victorian England would be a nice setting. American revolution is not a used setting, but it does kinda fits with the end of AC:Revelations (if people payed attention).

However.....Tomahawk...This is just made of pure win.

Judging by the box art. The new assassins looks really gritty. Another revenge story? A guy who have known war since he was born? Someone who got in touch with the native american and refused to battle the "gentleman" way?
Honestly, I was hoping for French Revolution instead (and I'm American too). It seems far more intersting and dark than the American revolution. Plus, with how chaotic and stupid things got in the FR, I can see the templars having a lot of different angels to work with to make their appearance at the event seem plausible. American Revolution... meh. Not bad, but I think it limits the writers a lot more than what the French Revolution would allow.
 

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I was hoping for the next installment to be based in Feudal Japan (ninjas, plus if I remember right, the end of AC1 hinted at it [among other time periods/locals]), but oh well. As a Yank, I am interested.
 

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If the story favours one side over the other, I will honestly be quite disappointed. I mean, that's what was so awesome with the original game. Crusaders, Islamists, all of them suffered the taint of The Templars.
 

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SilverUchiha said:
Random Argument Man said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Meh.

I don't see it working well.

As I have pointed out before, Victorian England, the Russian revolution, or the fall of the Aztec empire would work much better.
The Russian revolution is already done in the comics. The fall of the Aztec empire won't work (for now since we're following Desmond's ancestors and Ezio died 1524. The empire fell in 1521) (But hey, maybe when we don't follow Desmond's story).

Victorian England would be a nice setting. American revolution is not a used setting, but it does kinda fits with the end of AC:Revelations (if people payed attention).

However.....Tomahawk...This is just made of pure win.

Judging by the box art. The new assassins looks really gritty. Another revenge story? A guy who have known war since he was born? Someone who got in touch with the native american and refused to battle the "gentleman" way?
Honestly, I was hoping for French Revolution instead (and I'm American too). It seems far more intersting and dark than the American revolution. Plus, with how chaotic and stupid things got in the FR, I can see the templars having a lot of different angels to work with to make their appearance at the event seem plausible. American Revolution... meh. Not bad, but I think it limits the writers a lot more than what the French Revolution would allow.
I feel like this could potentially be more interesting in the AC universe. Good ol George Washington is considered a Templar in the AC Universe so the Revolution could be quite interesting to see.
 

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i just hope it will not be too patriotic. sure looks good and i hope the historical details will not be left out. but i do have a feeling they might copy scenes from the movie "the patriot".
well, im glad they move to part 3 finally. looking forward to it :)
 

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The relationship between France and the US is complicated to say the least, I'm not sure if "allies" is a term I'd use at all anymore. We are however the primary market for video games right now, and this is one time period we clearly remember being allied, and it exists as a subtle reminder of French intervention then. Assuming there was any nationalistic consideration her at all, as opposed to simply deciding American patriotism sells to Americans.

Freemasons having a substantial prescence in the US is very true, there has been a lot said about it over the years. Indeed it's arguably the reason why we had the awkwardly stated "freedom of religion" in the US, rathe than simply specifying Christianity which was the actual practice. The Freemasons still being pseudo-secret.

I could see this going a number of ways to be honest, in part I suspect that this might be a veiled way of justifying putting the gory murder of both American and British historical personages into the game which would kind of play havoc with the bit about marketing above.

Where this goes remains to be seen, I don't know anything, I could see it going in a few differant directions. Overall though two things can be said about this:

#1: The typical "Assasin's Creed" apperance doesn't work. It could be argued that the cloaked pseudo-hoodie look could fit in either in the middle ages or to an extent in the renaissance where I think it was pushing it for "indiscrete" since having your hood up that much would have been unusual in some of those enviroments. It doesn't fit at all in the late 1700s, France might want to look at some period costumes.

Basically going by that artwork if we're to assume our assasin is going to blind into the streets of say 1775 Boston by putting a bright white hood up over his head and walking slowly, that is going to be comedy gold. For this reason I'd almost suspect this cover has to be a phrank... I mean seriously think about it, yet it hides the face, but this does not scream "stealth" or "assasin" which is kind of the point of the series.

#2: To be honest, I sort of feel like Ubisoft is out of ideas here, and has been stealing from their own imitators. This seem similar (by no means identifical in setting) to the game "Backstab" which was an iPhone/Kindlefire/Pad/whatever game going for a vibe similar to Assasin's creed where you basically took out old world soldiers with now antiquidated firearms using a lot of the same kind of gameplay you'd have expected from Assasin's Creed. I've never bought it, but I've seem it, and have heard some people claim that while simplified they actually thought it wound up being better than AC. I think the game was by a company called "Gameloft" or something like that, the guys who did a scaled-down version of WoW as a full featured MMO for portables (Order and Chaos I think it's called).

It's not a terrible idea in of itself, but it makes me think they are imitating their imitators.

As a series I don't think Assasin's Creed ever had a planned ending to be honest, the nature of the franchise lets them drag it out for as many installments as they happen to want. I don't imagine we'll see an ending until we see some serious flagging from one or two of the chapters at which point they will try and get one more burst of sales with a finale and worry about tying it up at that point.

When they DO tie up the series, I suspect it will be with one final mind trip where your going to have a descendant of Desmond (as opposed to Desmond) doing his thing against the organization(s) toying with Desmond. We'll probably find out that the oftentimes awkward and disjointed narrative (the desmond sequences being criticized) is now justified by the "reveal" that it was someone remembering desmond being forced to remember. :)

It's possible that the finale might also be a situation where whomever is "remembering" desmond doing his remembering is using new technology breaking the rules set from the tech used on Desmond due to it being newer, in order to stop some kind of super assasin created with his combined knowlege, all of this knowlege being used to grant parity or something.

It's just a thought, but it seems like the obvious "surprise" in a series this heavily based on mentality. The idea of the dreamer themself turning out to be a dream so to speak. Given that Ubisoft to me seem to be running low on ideas for this franchise... well a few years down the road, remember I called it here. :)
 

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SilverUchiha said:
Random Argument Man said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Meh.

I don't see it working well.

As I have pointed out before, Victorian England, the Russian revolution, or the fall of the Aztec empire would work much better.
The Russian revolution is already done in the comics. The fall of the Aztec empire won't work (for now since we're following Desmond's ancestors and Ezio died 1524. The empire fell in 1521) (But hey, maybe when we don't follow Desmond's story).

Victorian England would be a nice setting. American revolution is not a used setting, but it does kinda fits with the end of AC:Revelations (if people payed attention).

However.....Tomahawk...This is just made of pure win.

Judging by the box art. The new assassins looks really gritty. Another revenge story? A guy who have known war since he was born? Someone who got in touch with the native american and refused to battle the "gentleman" way?
Honestly, I was hoping for French Revolution instead (and I'm American too). It seems far more intersting and dark than the American revolution. Plus, with how chaotic and stupid things got in the FR, I can see the templars having a lot of different angels to work with to make their appearance at the event seem plausible. American Revolution... meh. Not bad, but I think it limits the writers a lot more than what the French Revolution would allow.
I was also hoping for a French Revolution setting or ever...dare I say... A WW2 setting. I'm just imagining a story where Hitler has the Apple of Eden in his hand.

However, French Revolution would be interesting as you said. American Revolution? I could see this as a next step to Revelation's ending. (since the weird map shows the magic location of Saving-the-world-thing is in America).

Note* If you think this is a spoiler to Revelations, it really doesn't spoil that much.