Merkavar said:
So when has a plot twist seemed bad, wrong or out of place to you when watching a movie or tv show, well i guess books and other thing fit aswell.
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for me the ending to the planet of the apes movie when he gets back to earth and its all the same except monkeyified. to me it just never made sense and the movie would have been better if it ended with him flying off into the storm.
also the past 2 or 3 weeks of sons of anarchy. all of a sudden the gang is antiblack? dont they buy and sell to blacks and mexicans and have atleast mexican members? this whole plot twist seems tojust be a lack of creativity and story telling.
how about you? bad plot twists?
That's Tim Burton remakes for you. The original ended up the main character on a beach looking at a destroyed and half-buried statue of liberty. That one...eh, missed the point. Seems to be his M.O. with trying to remake things...
Anyway, /rant
Personally I find anything dealing with time travel will inevitably have some sort of terrible plot twist.
Examples.
In the PS2 game Shadow Hearts Covenant, Yuri, returning star of the first game, ends up traveling around with a german officer lady named Karin. After a lot of twists and turns in the story we end up with an ending where Karin is sent back in time to where she'll meet Yuri's father and eventually become his mother. Yeah, Yuri sends his mom back in time, but wouldn't exist himself if Karin had never been sent back in time in the first place, and Karin is only sent back in time because of Yuri's involvement.
In the movie Timeline, student Andre Marek gets his ear cut off in the final battle which unlocks his inner badass, since it reveals that he is, in fact, the knight that they find in a sarcophogas at the beggining of the movie. The problem there is that it means that everything was already set, which means not a damn bit of their actions mattered since none of the characters actually had free will. What had happened, would happen, and would always happen in a loop, now and forever. Not a bad plot twist per se, but really crappy and kinda makes the entire plot of the film feel pointless when you think about it.
In Terminator we end up finding out that Kyle Reese is actually John Conner's father. Which means that John Conner sent his father back in time to protect his mother and ensure his own birth. We further learn later in the film series that it was a terminator being sent back to kill Sarah Conner that lead to a corporation developing the evil Skynet computer, all by using the recovered terminator bits. So the two big twists are that John Conner sent his own father back in time, and that the terminator originally sent back was the reason Skynet existed. Both John Conner and Skynet essentially sent their own father's back in time to help them exist in the first place. All of this means that there is no f@#!ing way either of them exists because they are both dependant on the other being created and...just eff time travel.
Other than that, eh, there's way too many for me to try and list the ones I hated here.
Metal Gear Solid had a pretty terrible one with Master turning out to actually be Liquid Snake, but that's mostly because nobody was given much a reason to care about Master in the first place, just seemed like it wasn't necessary.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Tim Burton...again) reveals that Willy Wonka is going through an odd midlife crises, and that he's estranged from his dad...who was a candy hating dentist. Movie suddenly snaps from a candy related snuff film, to being about Willy Wonka needing to work out his daddy issues. I mean it was foreshadowed, but...meh.
Then there's anime series. Don't get me long, I generally love anime, but you name a series and it will have at least one terrible plot twist. Either because it's cliche or because it comes straight from left field and often for no reason.
