Banned Escapists To Be Granted Amnesty On New Forums.

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So says the Editor in Chief, Nick Calandra.

Nick Calandra said:
Marik2 said:
So banned people can make a new account under a new name?
For now yes. We'll treat it as a fresh start.
So any banned users who still lurk here, come on back!

Houseman is already there, for a start.
 

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I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

This will lead to The Lunatic, Epyc Wynn, and a whole host of others coming back again. Does anyone here really want to see them again?
 

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Red Sentinel said:
I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

This will lead to The Lunatic, Epyc Wynn, and a whole host of others coming back again. Does anyone here really want to see them again?
EW is probably long bored of this place, so it's doubtful he'll come back. He doesn't seem to stick around sites for very long before moving on.

Lunatic? Meh, maybe. But he'd basically turned himself into public enemy #1 here, by the time he got banned. I don't think he had ANY friends left here by that stage.
If he came back, he'd be entering a rather hostile environment (hostile for him, that is), given the bad blood that was swirling around him. If he did come back, I'd wager it'd be under a different name.
 

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Just to comment on this, the mods are alerting me to those that were banned when they sign-up, and I'm making a final judgment call based on their past history going forward after they alerted me to Houseman. It'll be a case by case basis.
 

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I mean, there's probably a practical element to this. Transferring the bans to the new forums is likely more trouble than its worth, especially considering the when/why of various bans. I certainly wouldn't envy the people who'd be put in charge of combing through whatever archive there is (if there even is one) recording who was banned, why they were banned and whether or not it's worth transferring the ban of someone kicked out for getting too many minor infractions 8 years ago. Nevermind the question of whether or not a banned user who'd been absent for any significant length of time would even bother signing up for the new site.

Basically, the balance of probability is that it'd be a largely wasted effort barring a handful of more recent...infamous members, and acting specifically against those ends up feeling like moderation is unfairly targeting them (which is to say, bad optics). So the clean slate approach makes the most practical sense.
 

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Ah, that stop sign. Remember that conspiracy theory by Lunatic? Despite the case going through a lawyer, judge, a group of his peers and under a president who frequently annuls judgement in courts based on political ideology, a stop sign being 'in the wrong place' meant James Fields was innocent, irrespective of what everyone else says

EDIT: OT: I'm fine with giving everyone a second chance. It will depend on how people get banned in the future and how strikes work and can be removed
 

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Red Sentinel said:
I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

This will lead to The Lunatic, Epyc Wynn, and a whole host of others coming back again. Does anyone here really want to see them again?
Stop being paranoid.

Most people that got banned will have long since moved on, and for those broken people that kept lurking for years on a place they weren't allowed access to; just let them join 🤷 if they behave, you have a new member of the community, if they misbehave they will simply be banned again in due time.

The entire internet isn't jumping at the chance to troll on the escapist 🤦‍♂️
 

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I'm generally not a fan of banning people outright unless they were never a contributing member and joined just to troll or post porn or something like that so this is a good step. Only a very insecure forum would need to rely on bans to solve disagreements.
 

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I'm trying to remember all those major crazies that everybody knew the name of that got banned over the years now. Maybe I should find them and tell them they can come back (kidding).
 

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Fieldy409 said:
I'm trying to remember all those major crazies that everybody knew the name of that got banned over the years now. Maybe I should find them and tell them they can come back (kidding).
Danyal comes to mind. He was obsessed with the singularity, how beastiality is ok, and asking questions he hoped people would answer with "Muslims are evil".
 

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Red Sentinel said:
I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

This will lead to The Lunatic, Epyc Wynn, and a whole host of others coming back again. Does anyone here really want to see them again?
I do. Most people who got banned were really fun.
 

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Marik2 said:
Red Sentinel said:
I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

This will lead to The Lunatic, Epyc Wynn, and a whole host of others coming back again. Does anyone here really want to see them again?
I do. Most people who got banned were really fun.
No they weren't. A majority of them were an annoyance that would not leave unless forced too.

Speaking of people being banned, I highly doubt Ezekiel wants to come back. He was an okay guy, but he let's his opinions get the better of him, to the point of being contentious. Sometimes he had the with me or your all against me attitude depending on peoples differing opinions. How he got banned was on himself due to blind rage and throwing a hissy fit. His attitude improved a little on Easy Allies, but he does not post that often.
 

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Well, its been close to a decade for some of them. Allowing that time and tide can change a person there?s no reason not to let them have a clean slate. If they?ve matured their delivery and can contribute to a conversation then cool. If they?re the same hooting dickhole interested only in shitposting and starting fights they?ll be banned again in short order.
 

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I am all for this idea (outside of a few handful of individuals but even then, if Nu-Escapist wants to give everyone a shot and let The Banhammer decide their fate if they step out of line again, so be it. I'm not a Mod anymore so that ain't my problem :D)

There were a lot of people who went down due to a thousand cuts kind of thing pre-Dark Ages here (hell, some of them went down by a thousand cuts with rules that are no longer even in play like "low content") so no real reason to cut out a chunk of audience before you even get off the ground. Whether those people want to return or not is on them to decide but the option should be there. If people who were banned can follow the rules, awesome, welcome. If not, they'll just get themselves banned again.
 

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CoCage said:
Speaking of people being banned, I highly doubt Ezekiel wants to come back. He was an okay guy, but he let's his opinions get the better of him, to the point of being contentious. Sometimes he had the with me or your all against me attitude depending on peoples differing opinions. How he got banned was on himself due to blind rage and throwing a hissy fit. His attitude improved a little on Easy Allies, but he does not post that often.
Ezekiel is one of the ones I'm hoping will come back. It wasn't thaat long ago that he was banned and he very active at creating threads. I think the community suffered when he was banned.

I wonder if [user]DVS BSTrD[/user] will come back, since I see him post on ZP comments sometimes.

Marik2 said:
I'm not gonna join until they make avatars big.
Yes, this is a major problem with the new forum. I hope it gets resolved. Default avatar size should be the pub club size here.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
CoCage said:
Speaking of people being banned, I highly doubt Ezekiel wants to come back. He was an okay guy, but he let's his opinions get the better of him, to the point of being contentious. Sometimes he had the with me or your all against me attitude depending on peoples differing opinions. How he got banned was on himself due to blind rage and throwing a hissy fit. His attitude improved a little on Easy Allies, but he does not post that often.
Ezekiel is one of the ones I'm hoping will come back. It wasn't thaat long ago that he was banned and he very active at creating threads. I think the community suffered when he was banned.

I wonder if [user]DVS BSTrD[/user] will come back, since I see him post on ZP comments sometimes.

Marik2 said:
I'm not gonna join until they make avatars big.
Yes, this is a major problem with the new forum. I hope it gets resolved. Default avatar size should be the pub club size here.
Patience lol. It's the weekend, I'll have tech fix avatar sizes on Monday.

Edit: Tech was online so we got it done now. Big avatar sizes, new post identification and more fixes are incoming.
 

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Marik2 said:
I'm not gonna join until they make avatars big.
Avatars are big now.
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Saelune showed up briefly, but I think she deleted her account
That was an imposter. Or at least, the first one was. We banned and deleted the account.

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Speaking of... if anyone else here sees an imposter, that isn't them, posting under their name on the new forum, please let us know on this forum (since your identity is essentially verified on this forum). We'll deal with the intruder. And don't worry, you'll still get to use your username, it won't be stolen forever.