Basic Logic

[CIA]

With 1), 3) and 5), your answer seems right. The problem would be in the definition of Constitution, as even the Draconian Law may be considered a constitution depending on the definition. but your logic seems to hold.

The Magna Carta is the oldest constitution. The end.

I only gave one example of an older Constitution because I didn't want to clutter up the page. One is sufficient to prove my point.

Indeed, a single counter example is sufficient. Still, I think that you need your prfessors definition, as it may have some fine points on teh definitio, which would make your answer true or false, as what you are considering as a constitution may not be the same for him.

I asked him if he considered the Articles of Confederation a constitution and he said yes.

Oh, and what was your professor's reasoning behind the answer?

The word "is" implied that it only meant constitutions still in effect. I don't see how that could be possible.

 

[IDBash]

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I once had a professor that I had conclusively, methematically, and logically proven wrong. I confronted him about it, and all he could say was, "I have to see this. This will be interesting." When I presented my answer his response was, "Oh, but you read the question wrong." My reply was, "No, I did not. I used the exact approach that you outlined on my mpaper in red ink." He then responded by saying that, "Ok, I suppose I will give you the points because I can see that you have learned something." I still have that physics test somewhere...

That was the single most frustrating moment in my entire life. I filled up an entire chalkboard too!

Spoiler

If that is true(which I assume it is)... that is the COOLEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!! If he gave you the points he is a pretty good teacher. Most will kick you out of class for proving them wrong.

 

[CIA]

Personally, I think you should just let the answer go. Odds are, if you answered in true/false format on a test, it was worth all of what...2 points to your overall test grade? You seem to be a history oriented person, so I don't think the arguement "I could have passed the test" is a reasonable one in this situation.

I got about an 11/15 on the test, so it would have improved my grade substansially. I can never remember who wrote which Federalist Paper.

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I did talk to him. He defended his choice. I edited in what he said.

I once had a professor that I had conclusively, methematically, and logically proven wrong. I confronted him about it, and all he could say was, "I have to see this. This will be interesting." When I presented my answer his response was, "Oh, but you read the question wrong." My reply was, "No, I did not. I used the exact approach that you outlined on my mpaper in red ink." He then responded by saying that, "Ok, I suppose I will give you the points because I can see that you have learned something." I still have that physics test somewhere...

That was the single most frustrating moment in my entire life. I filled up an entire chalkboard too!

Spoiler

That is awesome. I did not have the balls to take this guy to the mat. Kudos.

Make him take a logic course, that list you put up specifically said the Articles of Confederation are a constitution and older than the US Constitution. The answer seems pretty obvious to me.

Yeah, and they're parameters that he himself established. Makes it even worse.

 

[A random person]

Make him take a logic course, that list you put up specifically said the Articles of Confederation are a constitution and older than the US Constitution. The answer seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[IDBash]

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I did talk to him. He defended his choice. I edited in what he said.

Still, "is" implies existence in the present tense only, not status of effectiveness. The Articles of the Confederation is still an existing document. If he holds his position then he is supporting a trick question that the people who weren't listening will get right while the informed ones that actually listened will get it wrong. So he would effectively be rewarding the stupid people for being stupid and lazy. (Point that out, and he will either hate you or love you... if you are will to take that risk)

Also, you could have him use 'is' in a sentence to describe something, and 2 out of three times it is used as a support to a verb that states what it 'is doing'. But is alone is a statement of existence that only states more if it has a descriptor as the object. (english class is now out, please remember that I don't grade homework, and have a good weekend.)

Edit: BTW will this question alter your grade on the test?

 

[CIA]

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I did talk to him. He defended his choice. I edited in what he said.

Still, "is" implies existence in the present tense only, not status of effectiveness. The Articles of the Confederation is still an existing document. If he holds his position then he is supporting a trick question that the people who weren't listening will get right while the informed ones that actually listened will get it wrong. So he would effectively be rewarding the stupid people for being stupid and lazy. (Point that out, and he will either hate you or love you... if you are will to take that risk)

Also, you could have him use 'is' in a sentence to describe something, and 2 out of three times it is used as a support to a verb that states what it 'is doing'. But is alone is a statement of existence that only states more if it has a descriptor as the object. (english class is now out, please remember that I don't grade homework, and have a good weekend.)

Edit: BTW will this question alter your grade on the test?

I almost pointed that out, but he's the kind of person who will take offence. Good suggestion though, just not for him.

Yes, It will alter my grade substantially.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Well, if I remember it correctly, some Sumer or someone from around the Middle-East had the first written laws. Like, 3000 BC or something. I'd say it's the oldest. I might be wrong,though.

 

[CIA]

Well, if I remember it correctly, some Sumer or someone from around the Middle-East had the first written laws. Like, 3000 BC or something. I'd say it's the oldest. I might be wrong,though.

I don't think people normally think of that as a constitution. A constitution is more about political principles being laid out then a list of laws.

 

[IDBash]

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I did talk to him. He defended his choice. I edited in what he said.

Still, "is" implies existence in the present tense only, not status of effectiveness. The Articles of the Confederation is still an existing document. If he holds his position then he is supporting a trick question that the people who weren't listening will get right while the informed ones that actually listened will get it wrong. So he would effectively be rewarding the stupid people for being stupid and lazy. (Point that out, and he will either hate you or love you... if you are will to take that risk)

Also, you could have him use 'is' in a sentence to describe something, and 2 out of three times it is used as a support to a verb that states what it 'is doing'. But is alone is a statement of existence that only states more if it has a descriptor as the object. (english class is now out, please remember that I don't grade homework, and have a good weekend.)

Edit: BTW will this question alter your grade on the test?

I almost pointed that out, but he's the kind of person who will take offence. Good suggestion though, just not for him.

Yes, It will alter my grade substantially.

Go talk to an english professor that you are in good with about it.

 

[CIA]

Go talk to an english professor that you are in good with about it.

Nah, I'm good on the venting. I already yelled about his mistreatment of the verb to be to a friend of mine.

(There aren't any English profs. I'm on good terms with anyway)

 

[tsb247]

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I once had a professor that I had conclusively, methematically, and logically proven wrong. I confronted him about it, and all he could say was, "I have to see this. This will be interesting." When I presented my answer his response was, "Oh, but you read the question wrong." My reply was, "No, I did not. I used the exact approach that you outlined on my mpaper in red ink." He then responded by saying that, "Ok, I suppose I will give you the points because I can see that you have learned something." I still have that physics test somewhere...

That was the single most frustrating moment in my entire life. I filled up an entire chalkboard too!

Spoiler

If that is true(which I assume it is)... that is the COOLEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!! If he gave you the points he is a pretty good teacher. Most will kick you out of class for proving them wrong.

This happened when I approached him in his office after the final (was NOT the brightest things I have done).

The whole argument was over a question that the entire class missed on a previous test, and he was offering something like double the points for anyone that could do the problem correctly (a letter grade bump for me) and return it to him one week later. I took the problem home, worked it again, and turned it in. A few weeks later, he handed them back and he had not even graded it. He told me that it had not gotten it right, and that I would not recieve any credit. I could not take that. I could not take that AT ALL, so what did I do? I got together with my dad who is a card-carrying pHD and aerospace engineer who specializes in SACRY MATH AND PHYSICS and I had him explain to me how the problem was supposed to work. With a little help (and a dynamics textbook) I was able to do the problem (with his help) and get the same answer that I had gotten before, and this time, I had the input of a pHD to guide my reasoning.

I think the only reason that he was able to stomach my rebellion against his, "Absolute perfectness," was because all of this took place in an empty classroom that happened to be attached to his office. I don't think it would have ended so well had anyone else seen it. Yeah, my grade probably would have dropped a few letter grades.

I snuck the photo with my phone when he wasn't looking so I could prove to my classmates that I put him in his place.

At the end of the semester, he made a point to tell the class, "If you can't reach me over the summer, it means I am in Antarctica doing nuclear research." <--- Insert snooty tone.

Yeah, he was a pompous ass!

 

[Pimppeter2]

In formal schooling, it does not matter whether you're actually right or wrong - all that matters to your mark is whether or not your answer conforms to your teacher's opinion.

Pretty much this.

Teachers are so stuck up their own ass that they won't take a second to treat you as an adult.

 

[tsb247]

Personally, I think you should just let the answer go. Odds are, if you answered in true/false format on a test, it was worth all of what...2 points to your overall test grade? You seem to be a history oriented person, so I don't think the arguement "I could have passed the test" is a reasonable one in this situation.

I got about an 11/15 on the test, so it would have improved my grade substansially. I can never remember who wrote which Federalist Paper.

Have you talked to him about it?

That I believe would be the right approach on this... because it is obvious that he needs to check his key.

I did talk to him. He defended his choice. I edited in what he said.

I once had a professor that I had conclusively, methematically, and logically proven wrong. I confronted him about it, and all he could say was, "I have to see this. This will be interesting." When I presented my answer his response was, "Oh, but you read the question wrong." My reply was, "No, I did not. I used the exact approach that you outlined on my mpaper in red ink." He then responded by saying that, "Ok, I suppose I will give you the points because I can see that you have learned something." I still have that physics test somewhere...

That was the single most frustrating moment in my entire life. I filled up an entire chalkboard too!

Spoiler

That is awesome. I did not have the balls to take this guy to the mat. Kudos.

Thanks, but I feel as though I should mention that this may have harmed my grade somewhat. If I remember correctly, my grade went from an 86% to an unheard of 73% (or something along those lines). I have NO IDEA how that happened, but oh well... I had my victory. See my previous post for the story on why I did what I did.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

In formal schooling, it does not matter whether you're actually right or wrong - all that matters to your mark is whether or not your answer conforms to your teacher's opinion.

Pretty much this.

Teachers are so stuck up their own ass that they won't take a second to treat you as an adult.

Even if you are one, which turns into a bit of a mindf**k.