Batman V Superman's Full Trailer Finally Arrives

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

This actually looks A LOT BETTER than I had expected. That scene when Batman grapples away from Superman's beam is so comic-bookish it makes me giggle with happiness inside. Snyder is the guy behind The Watchmen adaptation after all, and I loved that movie. He can make action scenes true to the characters and original material like only few directors can. I've been very skeptical in the past, but after this trailer I'm beginning to think that this movie has potential to be a very positive surprise. And Ben Affleck looks great as Bruce Wayne. Very dark.

But what do I know. I liked Man of Steel too. The biggest sin of that movie is the fact that it isn't as good as what Marvel does with MCU. But I'm not really a fan of Superman as a character so I was able to enjoy the movie for what it was.

 

[ShakerSilver]

The only thing they got right in this so far is Superman dealing the the ramifications of his fight with Zod, although I feel they'll just half-resolve that point by the end of the film. Doesn't help that the film seems to be juggling like 10 different plot-threads: Batman introduction, Superman earning the people's trust, whatever Lex has planned, some conflict between Superman and Batman, those Super-Soliders, Wonder Woman for some reason - and neither Aquaman nor Cyborg have been shown yet.

But the biggest thing that gets me is the tone of this film - HOLY SHIT, lighten up guys! It's so damn dark and brooding it makes me sick. I get that Batman being dark, but Superman never even cracks a smile. It almost feels like the writers are looking towards Frank Miller's interpretation of Batman and Superman's relationship for inspiration, which is not a good sign at all. Not to mention that they're really pushing the "Superman is a god" line way too far. Superman is supposed to be an icon to look up to but here he's painted as Space Jesus, even more so than in Man of Steel. Then we have Luthor. Fuck. Could they have made a WORSE Luthor?

I'm not going to lie, I think I've already made up my mind on this film. I'm just going to go and watch the Batman/Superman movie again.

 

[PaulBrown]

Can't wait to watch this

 

[The Harkinator]

Ok, that trailer was actually pretty good. The bit where Batman zips away from Superman's hear vision is simply perfect. Ben Affleck looks fantastic as Batman and Bruce Wayne, his batsuit is brilliant (though I don't like the DKR-esque chunky bat on his chest) and that's all encouraging. Something else encouraging is Superman seems to have made saving lives his priority. I still don't think Zack Snyder really understands either character properly, but it appears to be a step in the right direction.

I'm not convinced about Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, that red capes line sounded so terrible and has done nothing to convince me he's going to be good in this. Maybe he'll turn out to be really good when the film comes out but this trailer made me feel better about a lot of things in the movie and Eisenberg as Luthor wasn't one of them.

I was already looking forward to this and was going to watch it regards of how good the trailers were, but this has at least made me feel better about how it'll be as a finished product.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I gotta give points to a man who looks at what Supes can do and goes "I can take him."

 

[The Harkinator]

Snip

This, this, a million times this. Those bits perfectly capture Superman as a character, and show what he's all about.

I find superheroes are at their most interesting when a writer doesn't just make them go: "IM A SUPERHERO! I WILL DEMONSTRATE THIS BY HITTING THINGS!"

Batman and Superman have their own specific methods to crimefighting and being a superhero. Bats is a detective, and his best representations are when he applies his mind to the task, he's obviously focused on saving lives too though he's sometimes less gentle with setting them straight. One of the best ways of demonstrating this was in B:TAS when he saved a couple of kids dodging trains and straight up told them, "You play chicken long enough, you fry." Short and simple thing reminding them how stupid what they were doing was.

Supes is more of a heroic icon. He's very conscious that he can't save everyone but tries his hardest. He's as gentle and kind to everyone as he possibly can be in the situation. Him waiting all night with a potential jumper until they're ready to talk again is exactly Superman, waiting all that time because he genuinely cares about what happens.

Neither superhero is better than one another, neither's methods are objectively better than the other, they just match the needs of the particular city each operates in most of the time. I'll admit I'm not a fan of them fighting for any reason other than one being brainwashed. I much prefer when they're portrayed as great friends who recognise and respect the differences between their methods and the reasons for that difference. I still think the Justice League cartoon did this best.

 

[Zeraki]

It's definitely better than the teaser, but I still don't like how desaturated these DC movies are getting. It's like someone at Warner Bros is allergic to color

 

[Ralancian]

I still think the Justice League cartoon did this best.

Wouldn't disagree with you there but the DCAU remains the cornerstone of televisual/film of shared superhero universes and pretty much is the gold standard. It's completely unfair to say anything doesn't match up to it because few things will coupled with nostalgia factor.

As for them fighting I think the trailer is doing pretty well at explaining Batman's reasons Wayne Financial destroyed, a kid likely made parentless (easy way to piss off Bruce Wayne), a Batman in retirement who's only seen good men fall (Gordon is apparently dead by now and he's probably referring to Mr. H. Dent as well). I;m struggling to see Superman's reasoning yet but I suspect they'll be some as evidenced with his conversation with Perry White.

Seriously though this will the plot of the film Lex will manipulate Supes/Batman to fight, round 1 Batman get whooped (fight with normal suit), round 2 Batman holds his own (armoured suit) then Wonder Woman (who's been in the background of the entire movie) turns up woman-splains (sorry deliberate sarcasm) what Lex has been doing and then team realising they are far greater working together than they were apart. Film ends with call-to-arms for all heroes.

 

[The Harkinator]

Snippity-snip!

That sounds absolutely dreadful. It probably will go like that but Luthor manipulating them into fighting is just the most generic and awful plot they could have done.

As I've said, I really don't like it when Batman and Superman fight since I think it's completely against their characters. I don't mind it when one of them is brainwashed, and I think Batman:HUSH is an excellent plotline that has a very believable fight between Bats and Supes (nobody really wins, Bats stalls Supes long enough to present him with a situation where he's got to save Lois from death or keep fighting, obviously Supes snaps out of his mind control and saves Lois) but in the opening sequence Bats acknowledges Superman would go about the situation differently and mid-way points out they don't do the same thing.

There is some nostalgia with Justice League, but I still watch the episodes now and then and they get it absolutely right. The interaction between characters is spot on what I think it should be. For that matter, I'm not sure I wholly approve of Batman being retired and Gordon being dead. If they're going to do these characters I would prefer they got them at the point where most of their status quo is established.

 

[wizzy555]

That shot of Batman dodging Supermans laser with his grappling hook was fucking godly!

Can't wait to see more!

That probably wasn't Superman, seeing as though that would straight up murder Batman.

And who are the Red Capes?

Nah he's wearing his power armour which could be resistant enough.

I believe it was a joke likening superman (who wears a red cape) to the red coats - "the red coats are coming".

 

[wizzy555]

Oh. That's a very US centered phrase, not very good to use in the trailer, I assumed the red capes were some sort of enemy but I guess it was supposed to be a.. joke.

Yes it is. I'm British and I had to think about it for a bit before it came to me (I could still be wrong).

 

[McElroy]

Anything that opens with Holly Hunter is good in my proverbial books.

I liked it for the most part but I hated that female senators voice. It was like they saw Heather Wilson during the superbowl scandal and decided to lampoon her or something.

What you get from me is a gaze of disapproval.

 

[Veylon]

And why does he sound like a discount Joker?

That wasn't supposed to be the Joker? Playing the two superheroes off against each other just to see what happens (while also being corny) sounds like something he would do.

 

[Something Amyss]

And why does he sound like a discount Joker?

That wasn't supposed to be the Joker? Playing the two superheroes off against each other just to see what happens (while also being corny) sounds like something he would do.

Well, it was Jesse Eisenberg, who's supposed to be Luthor.

 

[Scrythe]

Before this trailer, I wasn't sure if I wanted to see this.

After the trailer, I am firmly confident that I never want to see this.

 

[zinho73]

Don't care for the tone, but I like Batman and Wonder Woman's costumes. Decent castings for both too, I think.

Everyone is really pissed off or depressed, too much gray, the kents are the worst parents ever and too nanny Jesus references but, yeah, I do love the casting (including batfleck) and the costumes. I just wish all of this had a better character direction. There were supposed to be a contrast between Batman and Supes, but they are both brooding, sad and contemplative.

I predict a movie with lots of stares.

 

[zinho73]

Also, I´m tired of the hyper gritty crap DC seems to be pulling all the time. I want to see this when I see a Superman story





And all of this sequence

http://imgur.com/gallery/Ijdxh

I always thought that superman's ultimate superpower was being good. His best stories and moments are when they tap into that. There is not one superman scene in this trailer that feels heroic.

And I even think it is kind of cool to make the character go to dark places and feel conflicted, but it has to be something brief and timed correctly to have some impact. This gritty tone all over not only is out of place, it makes the movie predicable and weightless.

I would rather prefer a movie called superman and Batman in which they fight than a movie called Superman vs Batman in which they have to fight each other - any build up to the fight is padding and anything after carries less weight.

 

[Pinky's Brain]

Nah he's wearing his power armour which could be resistant enough.

Hard to swallow unless it's alien or magitech or something.

MoS level Superman can throw someone through multiple buildings and fly to satellite orbit in a couple of seconds ... even if the suit could take a punch, human flesh inside couldn't. Combine that with superspeed and flight capability and it becomes a bit silly for Batman to go up against them in some human level tech tin can.

Superman will probably go easy on him of course, but Batman should be too smart to do it in the first place.