Battlefield Producer Thinks Most Sandbox Games Are "Boring"

[SwagLordYoloson]

As long as the game follows in the footsteps of Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield 2 I will be happy

 

[BigKush]

Goodbye, Battlefield. xxo

It's going to be fucking sweet, who cares if you can't wander around and have massive battles on sparce maps. That's not what this game is about.

Sorry, WHAT?

 

[MrGalactus]

so, GTA and Minecraft are not popular at all are they. silly FPS dev, making outrageous claims. and i see he's jumping on the CoD bandwagon to try to make the game sell better. that's just lowered my expectations a tad.

Not popular as in the open worlds aren't very popular in the literal sense. The worlds are usually baron and lifeless, empty of people. I think thats what he means.

I think sandbox games are brilliant, to be honest. Inject some of your own imagination into it and they can provide for weeks of fun. It's not easy to get a sandbox world right though.

 

[blippity]

Quite funny, since I dislike pretty much all FPS games and enjoy sandbox games.

 

[ChaoticLegion]

So less like BattleField 2 and more like Cod modern warfare...

Im officially not psyched anymore.

This is exactly how I feel, I was looking forward to this game so much after thoroughly enjoying the Battlefield 2 experience. I was looking forward to an open map combat scenario that didn't confine you like so many other FPS games (I'm looking at you COD).

I wonder if he realises how many pre-orders he's likely to have cost the company with that single statement alone. I know I certainly won't be getting this game on pre-order anymore, it's going to be a "wait several weeks and see if it's even worth my time" style scenario for me now, as I'm assuming it will be with many others.

I always believed the Battlefield audience was mostly made up by people who liked to get away from the small map size and narrowness of the CoD franchise. Either I'm completely and utterly wrong on this point (which from my experience I would strongly guess that I am not), or this tool has no idea of the audience that follows the Battlefield series. If the latter statement is true, then this has to be one of the worst cases of audience targeting I've seen from a large developer in quite a while. Say what you will about sequels going down hill, but at least they usualy target the correct market.

Might want to read what the man actually said and notice the fact he's talking about the singleplayer, not the multiplayer.

That said, Escapist articles are getting more and more vague, with as misleading titles as possible, so can't really blame ya.

I didn't once refrence that my comment should be any more applicable to the multiplayer aspect of the game than the single player aspect of the game... my comment is open to both aspects. However knowing even one of them is to be less open and more linear will make me wait before I purchase this game now.

 

[Sehnsucht Engel]

Some of the best games I've played, have all been sandbox games. Like Saints Row, GTA, elder scrolls.

 

[Vrach]

I didn't once refrence that my comment should be any more applicable to the multiplayer aspect of the game than the single player aspect of the game... my comment is open to both aspects. However knowing even one of them is to be less open and more linear will make me wait before I purchase this game now.

Ah, fair enough, sorry, was going off the usual assumption that people buy the Battlefield franchise for the multiplayer, considering the singleplayer was never even remotely good

 

[Korusho]

Its nice they just spit in the face of most RPG gamers, RTS gamers and everyone else who enjoys a good sandbox experience. I can hope he really is just trying to get the game to sell better, but I doubt it.

What what what what what?

RTS games aren't sandbox AT ALL. Maybe 4X games can be kind of considered sandbox, but your standard RTS puts you in a very limited area with set specific missions, and on completion you simply move to a new limited area, sometimes with time limits. That's as linear as it gets.

And what do you mean you doubt he's just trying to get the game to sell better? Do you think spitting in the face of RPG gamers somehow is more important to him than selling his game?

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Ugh... Now that I look at my post with awake eyes rather than at 4AM, I see the point in your responce. RTS isn't very sandboxy, though the way I play it with a group of friends of mine, we tend to make it RPG sandboxy, Patrols, unit stories.. etc. I was thinking of a personal experience no one would be able to relate too.

Some of the best games I've played, have all been sandbox games. Like Saints Row, GTA, elder scrolls.

SR and its sequal were fantastic sandbox games. GTA with a little more chaos and freedom mixed in and a little less serious (Except GTA SA, I will always play SA over Saints Row, that is just personal preference however).

 

[GoldenSquirrel]

Sandbox or not, the campaign should have a good story. And if he feels making the game a sandbox will make the story "hard to get into" then don't do it. As long as the multiplayer isn't the same CoD, I'm cool with it.

 

[Deshin]

So battlefield 3 will be a CoD clone? That's all I needed to know about that.

Hardly. Here's how DICE deals with those fucking quickscopers.

That's not quickscoping, that's called SNIPING. It's something SNIPERS do with a SNIPER RIFLE from a SNIPER NEST; they sit and camp and when they see people from far away they SNIPE them. He'd be a quickscoper if he was on the same roof as them running and jumping around like a squirrel on crack.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

A producer of a shooter finds sandbox games "boring". There is a joke in there somewhere.

In. Deed.

It's a little shallow to make a statement completely writing off games that aren't linear, is it not?

Just realized the title of this article seems vaguely familiar... I think I've read a few other "This one well known person has a controversial statement to make about something related to games" articles lately...

 

[King of the Sandbox]

This man has no idea what he's talking about.

/fumes

 

[eljawa]

Its nice they just spit in the face of most RPG gamers, RTS gamers and everyone else who enjoys a good sandbox experience. I can hope he really is just trying to get the game to sell better, but I doubt it.

he did not say ALL sandbox games, but you know Burnout paradise? fun game, but as a racing game did not benefit from the sandbox set up (because it thus lacked the splitscreen multi player I love in racing games) as opposed to GTA and such games that benefit from it.

 

[Ddgafd]

So, it's gonna be even less sandbox-y? What's next, the game's just gonna play itself, while you sit there and watch?

 

[ph0b0s123]

Found the comments he made in this article more interesting....
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.276574-Pushing-PC-envelope-helps-console-development-says-Battlefield-3-Producer

 

[Stuntcrab]

Seriously? Sandbox games in my opinion are always better than simple campaign games where as soon as you complete 1 mission you teleport to the next... I found that boring I always find sandbox games fun. hardly shooter games and I rarely replay plain shooters. Sandbox is probably better than fast time limited or always intensive games.