Obligatory questions:VG_Addict said:
Those desktops both have Intel chips, they are like $200 overpriced over comparable AMD chips. There's literally no reason to buy Intel over AMD if you care at all about money. CPUs have no moving parts, they don't break. Plus, AMD's built-in graphics are WAY better than Intels HD Graphics as neither of those desktops have graphics cards. If you don't believe me, here's the benchmarks [https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-630-Desktop-Kaby-Lake-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU/m178724vsm401440] of the Intel HD Graphics 630 (what your linked desktops have) vs AMD Vega 11 (integrated graphics). AMD's chips are like $200 cheaper and also have way better built-in graphics. There's a reason why Sony and Microsoft use AMD chips in their consoles. Also, both your choices only come with Windows 10 Home, which is missing several standard Windows features compared to Pro; Home doesn't even have group policy for example.VG_Addict said:
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I'm gonna ask the obvious question and say; is a new PC needed?VG_Addict said:
He had a thread a couple of weeks ago that his computer was having sudden, unexplained shut downs. We tried to suggest he take it in to get tested, since the problem was vague enough that it could either be the power supply or motherboard, or even a loose/dusty connection somewhere. I don't think he's done so.TopazFusion said:
Do you have any full-sized towers that have similar specs?Phoenixmgs said:Those desktops both have Intel chips, they are like $200 overpriced over comparable AMD chips. There's literally no reason to buy Intel over AMD if you care at all about money. CPUs have no moving parts, they don't break. Plus, AMD's built-in graphics are WAY better than Intels HD Graphics as neither of those desktops have graphics cards. If you don't believe me, here's the benchmarks [https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-630-Desktop-Kaby-Lake-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU/m178724vsm401440] of the Intel HD Graphics 630 (what your linked desktops have) vs AMD Vega 11 (integrated graphics). AMD's chips are like $200 cheaper and also have way better built-in graphics. There's a reason why Sony and Microsoft use AMD chips in their consoles. Also, both your choices only come with Windows 10 Home, which is missing several standard Windows features compared to Pro; Home doesn't even have group policy for example.VG_Addict said:
This tiny desktop [https://www.microcenter.com/product/614867/hp-elitedesk-705-g4-usff-desktop-computer] is literally more powerful than either of the towers you linked and it's $450.
These from MicroCenter are much better machines:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/616695/powerspec-b243-desktop-computer (Vega 11 Graphics, Windows 10 PRO)
https://www.microcenter.com/product/607079/hp-pavilion-desktop-computer (Vega 11 Graphics, Windows 10 Home)
https://www.microcenter.com/product/615138/powerspec-g162-gaming-desktop-pc (Radeon RX 580 8GB video card, Win 10 Home)
Some Newegg machines:
https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000K0?Item=9SIA08C8367338&quicklink=true (Radeon RX 580 4GB Video Card, Win 10 Home)
https://www.newegg.com/viprtech-blizzard-gaming-entertainment/p/1VK-01UK-00013?Item=9SIAKF7B1A8488&quicklink=true (Radeon RX 580 4GB Video Card, Win 10 PRO)
I'm not sure what you mean by full-sized towers. The 2 PowerSpec desktops are taller than the 2 desktops you listed. The HP desktop I linked is only like an inch shorter than the Dell/Acer you linked to. Also, I just noticed that another reason buying name brands like Dell/HP/Acer isn't that great is because they only install a power supply that the current hardware needs; the Dell you linked only has a 290W power supply while the Acer is only 300W, the HP I linked is only 180W (totally forgot about checking the power supplies). That means if you were to add a video card to these units down the line, you might/probably will need to get a new power supply. The 2 PowerSpecs I linked have a 400W and 600W power supplies. So even the one that only has the Vega graphics will be able to power a decent video card with 400W power supply, but not one that's like $300+. So don't buy the HP I linked, the power supply sucks. The 2 Newegg PCs should be fine as well, the both have video cards so the power supply needs to be good and at least the SkyTech case is taller than the ones you linked, I'm guessing the ViprTech one is too but I couldn't find the dimensions. The $440 PowerSpec desktop, my 1st MicroCenter link, will be good enough for what games you listed as wanting to play on it, it's the cheapest, and comes with Win10 Pro. You can always add a video card to it later if needed.VG_Addict said:
There's really no point in having a tower anymore, it's just standard component sizes (motherboard, power supply, video card, etc.) that still have most desktops being towers; all the ones I linked and you linked are towers. The only downside of the ones I linked to is that they have no DVD drive nor a media card reader. The downsides to the ones you linked are the power supplies won't allow for a graphics card down the road (that HP has a 180W PSU), they have Win 10 Home, and there could be some propriety stuff in there that can make replacing/upgrading parts difficult (the power supply could be proprietary for example). HP does not say what power supply or case they are using, but you can look at the PowerSpec cases right here [https://www.microcenter.com/product/604841/lian-li-205-tempered-glass-atx-computer-case---white] and see what it allows for and what it doesn't.VG_Addict said:
That is bound to happen eventually.VG_Addict said: