biggest flaw in a console

[Pendragon9]

Raw Power: PC > Consoles
Control: PC > Consoles
Customization: PC > Consoles
# of Games: PC > Consoles
# of Free Games: PC > Consoles
# of Mic Spamming 10 year olds and Fanboys: Consoles > PC

Oh boy. ANOTHER PC snob. Allow me to counter your senseless prattle with some actual facts.

Raw power is tech speak for how much of a nerd you can be by arguing over such trivial things. Does your console/PC play games? If you said yes, then it's good. So stop arguing. Besides, remember the price of such a device, not to mention how small a difference there is between Ps3/360/PC graphics. Since you can't provide evidence to the contrary, then I'll move on.

Controls differ among people. I hate using a keyboard for games. That doesn't make me an "ignorant fanboy", as you would woefully call me. I choose to use a controller. If you don't like it, oh well. Do something about it.

Customization. lol. I'm not even gonna go there. "LOOK! I PUT SPARKLES ON MY PC! JOO CAN'T DO THAT ON YUR 360! DUR HUR." Really, it doesn't make sense to make such a point like that.

My Ps3 alone can play more than 3000 games, counting Ps3,Ps2, PS1, PSN and PSP titles (it has compatibility for all of them). I can buy most of them on Amazon or even at my local Gamestop, and best of all, it wouldn't really cost me that much money out of my pocket. So unless the PC can play 3001 games without the need for emulators, roms or hacks, then I suggest you shut your noise hole and be thankful the PC can use emus.

As for the free games, I really think you're pulling our leg with that one. I'd like to see some links and titles as to what games are free.

Now, for mic spamming ten year olds, that can occur on any gaming device. I'd like to see you prove it wrong.

Again, I'm not flaming the PC. So don't reply all angry.

Tl;dr Stop being such a snob and learn to be friends with your fellow gamers.

Oh, and PS for any PC gamers;

Please don't think I'm trying to 1-up the PC with a console. I'm just saying you guys really should stop being so biased. It only reflects badly on you.

 

[iJosh]

Sure you can get a new one, but that one will get RRoD too.

I beg to differ. The later 360s have been updated. My Elite is approaching a year and a half now. I've beat the shit out of it. Its been at LAN parties with less-than-resposible gamers, it's been knocked off shelves (and no scratches on the disc), it's suffered power surges in unprotected outlets, I carry it around a lot, and it's been left running accidentally overnight at least half a dozen times. I don't know if I just got a good one or if the Elites are just better, or what, but the fucking thing is indestructible.

Now getting it right the second time around is no excuse for going a whole year with a 33% failure rate, but the problem is no longer as bad as it once was. Unless you buy used or refurbished. Especially from GameSlop. Then you're just asking for it.

It is actually the elites. They're usually really good at lasting long. I still have mine also from the first day it came out. My brother had 2 of the regular packaged xbox360's and they both died.

 

[lava_lamp]

the Philips C.D. all together

 

[thisguyfromthere]

Raw Power: PC > Consoles

How useless this raw power is, unless you're playing Crysis or trying to make the home version of Skynet: PC > Consoles

Control: PC > Consoles

If you call "Nth random unnecessary control mapped to key you never use" better control, then certainly PC > Consoles. Having fewer buttons and control surfaces forces designers to use controls more efficiently and add less pointless bullshit. Pointless bullshit is nonetheless added, but is usually kept to a minimum.

Customization: PC > Consoles

Not being able to run the game you sold your soul for because you don't have the NVIDIA GFE560098477544493999348577745949494030303234 Chipset or the appropriate drivers: PC > Consoles

# of Games: PC > Consoles

Number of games no one has heard about, or are too old to enjoy any more: PC > Consoles

# of Free Games: PC > Consoles

Number of shitty free "casual" games: PC > Consoles

# of Mic Spamming 10 year olds and Fanboys: Consoles > PC

Number of Mic Spamming 40 year olds who live in their basements and post about how the game sucks because it isn't the original and is poorly balanced: PC > Consoles

 

[The Political Gamer]

Raw Power: PC > Consoles
Control: PC > Consoles
Customization: PC > Consoles
# of Games: PC > Consoles
# of Free Games: PC > Consoles
# of Mic Spamming 10 year olds and Fanboys: Consoles > PC

Oh boy. ANOTHER PC snob. Allow me to counter your senseless prattle with some actual facts.
Raw power is tech speak for how much of a nerd you can be by arguing over such trivial things. Does your console/PC play games? If you said yes, then it's good. So stop arguing. Besides, remember the price of such a device, not to mention how small a difference there is between Ps3/360/PC graphics. Since you can't provide evidence to the contrary, then I'll move on.
Controls differ among people. I hate using a keyboard for games. That doesn't make me an "ignorant fanboy", as you would woefully call me. I choose to use a controller. If you don't like it, oh well. Do something about it.
Customization. lol. I'm not even gonna go there. "LOOK! I PUT SPARKLES ON MY PC! JOO CAN'T DO THAT ON YUR 360! DUR HUR." Really, it doesn't make sense to make such a point like that.
My Ps3 alone can play more than 3000 games, counting Ps3,Ps2, PS1, PSN and PSP titles (it has compatibility for all of them). I can buy most of them on Amazon or even at my local Gamestop, and best of all, it wouldn't really cost me that much money out of my pocket. So unless the PC can play 3001 games without the need for emulators, roms or hacks, then I suggest you shut your noise hole and be thankful the PC can use emus.
As for the free games, I really think you're pulling our leg with that one. I'd like to see some links and titles as to what games are free.
Now, for mic spamming ten year olds, that can occur on any gaming device. I'd like to see you prove it wrong.
Again, I'm not flaming the PC. So don't reply all angry.
Tl;dr Stop being such a snob and learn to be friends with your fellow gamers.
Oh, and PS for any PC gamers;
Please don't think I'm trying to 1-up the PC with a console. I'm just saying you guys really should stop being so biased. It only reflects badly on you.

1. I am not a PC snob, I have a Wii and a 360 (That keeps Red Ringing) and I use both offen.
2. On controls it really is personal preference, I use a keyboard on my 360 and it works fine for me.
3. If you count all the roms, flash games and regular PC games the number is quite big.
4. Mic spamming ten year olds, yes you are right they are everywhere, but I have run into many more on my 360 than my PC.

Raw Power: PC > Consoles

How useless this raw power is, unless you're playing Crysis or trying to make the home version of Skynet: PC > Consoles

Control: PC > Consoles

If you call "Nth random unnecessary control mapped to key you never use" better control, then certainly PC > Consoles. Having fewer buttons and control surfaces forces designers to use controls more efficiently and add less pointless bullshit. Pointless bullshit is nonetheless added, but is usually kept to a minimum.

Customization: PC > Consoles

Not being able to run the game you sold your soul for because you don't have the NVIDIA GFE560098477544493999348577745949494030303234 Chipset or the appropriate drivers: PC > Consoles

# of Games: PC > Consoles

Number of games no one has heard about, or are too old to enjoy any more: PC > Consoles

# of Free Games: PC > Consoles

Number of shitty free "casual" games: PC > Consoles

# of Mic Spamming 10 year olds and Fanboys: Consoles > PC

Number of Mic Spamming 40 year olds who live in their basements and post about how the game sucks because it isn't the original and is poorly balanced: PC > Consoles

1. I play Crysis.
2. It really is personal preference, I use a keyboard on my 360 and it works fine for me.
3. I am just saying that when a part goes bad I just change it out and I don't have to send the hole thing back. (I have had to send my 360 back 5 times)
4. I am still playing Sim City.
5. OK 90% of casual games suck, but the PC is not the only one that has them.
6. 40 year olds, yes you are right they are everywhere, but at least they don't yell C@nZ I H@s ThN H@x.

 

[I Max95]

not exactly the red ring of death at leat the three yaer warrenty covers that
mine broke without even showing the rings and after a month the towel trick doesnt even work
(if your wondering my problem was with the video as in there was none)

 

[JamminOz07]

well, we're only talking about consoles, so the RROD would easily be the biggest flaw, which has had the most impact on the most people.

I'm on my 2nd xbox 360, and my 3rd RROD and I am not a happy camper.

 

[Elivercury]

Two biggest flaws in my opinion are: Not getting sufficient developer support for your console. Essentially, your console can be a pile of crap, but if it has awesome games, people will still buy it, use it and love it. Even if they do whine about it constantly. E.g. PS2 was shockingly inferior to the GC and Xbox, it also broke consistantly (i honestly never had one break on me, but i have spoken to people who had several break on them). However, if you compare the number of games out on the PS2 to the GC and the Xbox, i wouldn't be shocked if the PS2 had triple both the other two consoles games added together.

And it looks to be a similar case again. The PS3 has few games coming out for it, mostly just ports/multi-console games, while the 360 appears to have managed to get a host of developers to make all sorts of games. Nintendo as usual appears to be doing it's own thing, but more successful than usual.

My second major flaw is trying to turn consoles into (and often ruining) multimedia players. I just don't get it. I buy a console to play GAMES, i really couldn't give half a shit if i can watch blu-ray or play music on it. I'll grant that i have been enjoying the ability to play videos on my widescreen through my 360, but quite frankly, i could do this just by plugging my laptop into the TV also, so it doesn't really help that much.

I've just never got the obsession with making them into multimedia players, i suppose it's Sony having a huge success by selling PS2's as cheap DVD players and then people buying them and deciding to buy a few games since they're using it anyway. Now looks to be the same again with blu-ray. Also attempted with UMD's but were a collosal failure (who wants to pay above DVD prices to watch a film on a tiny screen?). Perhaps that early success has made developers want to turn their consoles into video ipods, with gaming on the side, but i find it quite frustrating when more effort has clearly gone on letting me use a console to fufill the tasks i already own dedicated objects for, than has gone into actually making it fufill it's OWN task of playing some fecking games.

- End rant -

 

[jthm]

You either used the stick, or the d-pad in rare instances and always the buttons. How does that equal 3 hand use?

Three hands are necessary to be able to reach all the buttons, the stick and the d-pad simultaneosly.

Yes, but there aren't any games that require the use of all the buttons, stick and d-pad simultanously (because that would be poor game design), so it's a non-issue.

 

[Padefe]

Regional Lockout, enough said.

 

[zakwak01]

the wii is pretty retarded in that you have to pay.... look the wii is just fucked

360 has no web browser not that much of a floor but hey youtube on a big screen would be nice once in a while also it dousnt conect to wireless or so i have heard i meen whats up with that thats just another way microsoft can force you to buy the conecter cable

Psp tv output dousnt do video games on the big screen i gues its cus it dousnt have the hardware to support but still it would be awsome if it did also no hard drive wich forces you to buy those retarded cards

Ds is just a litle shit thingy that cant do much and the games cost to much and the only reason for getting on if for some reason there becomes this new fad were every one likes pokemon

Ps3 havnt seen much from what i have heard its pretty good glad some one finaly got somthing right

best stick to pc cus nothing beats a good old mouse and keyboard

 

[Tech Team FTW!]

You either used the stick, or the d-pad in rare instances and always the buttons. How does that equal 3 hand use?

Three hands are necessary to be able to reach all the buttons, the stick and the d-pad simultaneosly.

Yes, but there aren't any games that require the use of all the buttons, stick and d-pad simultanously (because that would be poor game design), so it's a non-issue.

No, poor game design is forcing the player to stand absolutely still if they want to do something crazy, like free-aim in an fps.

 

[RedVelvet]

I think they're all bad xD no backwards capability, red ring of death, bad PS3 online community, paying for content that should be on the disk, paying for an add-on to get your Wii-mote working like it should work from the first place, developpers trying their best to make VISUALLY STUNNING GAMES instead of ENTERTAINING games ... Yeah =D

 

[Cowabungaa]

You either used the stick, or the d-pad in rare instances and always the buttons. How does that equal 3 hand use?

Three hands are necessary to be able to reach all the buttons, the stick and the d-pad simultaneosly.

Yes, but there aren't any games that require the use of all the buttons, stick and d-pad simultanously (because that would be poor game design), so it's a non-issue.

No, poor game design is forcing the player to stand absolutely still if they want to do something crazy, like free-aim in an fps.

You can't run-and-gun on the console? Shame, I can.

 

[tarquin biscuitbarrel]

console is cheaper than a pc, but the games and accessories certainly are NOT.

defects (my 360 rrod bricked after only ~5 hours per week over 1.5 years)

reliance on controller, fps games on a controller are crap.

 

[tarquin biscuitbarrel]

You can't run-and-gun on the console? Shame, I can.

the console fps games are designed to be easier to make the controller viable, through slow/stupid AI and more powerful weapons etc.

play a game like rainbow 6 vegas or halo3 with a mouse... pathetically easy - headshot everything in 0.01 seconds.

 

[pirateninj4]

Raw Power: PC > Consoles
Control: PC > Consoles
Customization: PC > Consoles
# of Games: PC > Consoles
# of Free Games: PC > Consoles
# of Mic Spamming 10 year olds and Fanboys: Consoles > PC

You forgot reliability and price...however, I must agree with the control and customization, I don't like that console games are limited to what was released (mostly) but then again, that usually means a more stable gaming experience.

I guess the most obvious flaw with a console would have been the RRoD for the 360, which was and will always be one of the most cop out of cop outs for a major console release.

 

[phar]

I havent read the whole thread but I hate the 360 for the following reasons:

XBL is a laggy joke for Aussies to use (gg american servers)
Loud DVD tray
You cant put the RCA and HDMI cables in at the same time (if your using a monitor which only has a DVI port)
The biggest transformer known to mankind
Controller batteries not lasting long. Been through about 3-4 packs in 2 years
Oh and finally the springs in my triggers on my controller have gone rusty to the make a squeeking noise when i press them (need lubing up)

 

[asam92]

PS3 - Price and the lack of backwards compatibility (for the newer consoles) and small hard drive 20gb, 40gb just to small, even the 80gb is to small
Xbox 360 - RROD
Wii - Friend Codes & the fact they don't make any of the games to the potential if graphics it could have (why is Red Steel and Super Mario Galaxy so good but nothing else is)
Gamecube - no backwards compatability (obvious reasons)
PS2 - There isn't one
Xbox - Bad Controller

I just got a new Hard Drive for the PS3 so its not to small anymore (for me anyway)

 

[asam92]

console is cheaper than a pc, but the games and accessories certainly are NOT.

defects (my 360 rrod bricked after only ~5 hours per week over 1.5 years)

reliance on controller, fps games on a controller are crap.

mine went rrod - 10 hours a week in 3 months
thats when i got it fixed, then sold it to a friend and bought a ps3, damn you microsoft