- Mar 7, 2012
This kind of thing comes from a failure to understand why people are upset.
I would also point out something funny, the only good game in the Bioshock franchise (thus far) has been the first Bioshock game. and it dealt with Ayn Rand's objectivist ideals; which put focus on the individual and screwed everyone else.Gigatoast said:Perhaps it'd be unfair to point out Bioshock had a s**t ending too.
The story is basically about a single artist being against the norm, and being punished for it, up until the end where he "wins".The Fountainhead's protagonist, Howard Roark, is an individualistic young architect who chooses to struggle in obscurity rather than compromise his artistic and personal vision. The book follows his battle to practice what the public sees as modern architecture, which he believes to be superior, despite an establishment centered on tradition-worship.
The very fact that all of those endings could be possible from the way the stories vary from the first two games is testament alone to how broken the ending of the third is. All of that should have been possible. All of it. Everything they built in the first and second games shows that. There's literally no reason that the series couldn't continue to uphold the adaptive and dynamic narrative that it's had before. Shep could have been the martyr for a galaxy, or the savior-turned-villain as he took control of the Reapers, or the single individual who fucked the galaxy when the mass relays went supernova and stranded currently allied forces around a world that cannot support them. That all could have happened. Shep could have sold out to TIM, and gone into the fold. He could have just given up, and let the Reapers do what they do. That could all have happened, the way you'd established the character throughout the series.Metalix Knightmare said:The thing is, a number of people were NEVER going to be satisfied. I've seen like three different reasons to hate the ending on this website ALONE ranging from it didn't make sense, it's meaningless, and 5 different variations of what the ending SHOULD have been like and the Social forums are an even bigger mess.
You've got people wanting Paragons to Talk the Reapers to death, Cerberus Cheerleaders wanted TIM to save the day on a white horse and then bone their Shepard, Renegades would've been uber pissed if the Paragons could get ANYTHING resembling a happy ending, then you have the standard off into the sunset with the love interest types, there was even one nutjob that wouldn't accept anything other than the Reapers winning!
I guess what I'm saying is, they were going to piss of no end of people no matter what they did. Might as well go out with an ending studio Gainax would be proud of.
What's interesting is that I was reading an opinion piece somewhere last week (I think on Penny Arcade) where, in discussing the ME3 ending, they said "Ken Levine would probably appreciate getting a do-over on Bioshock's ending."Gigatoast said:Perhaps it'd be unfair to point out Bioshock had a s**t ending too.
My thoughts exactly. Or I guess the people want a sweet fluffy ending. Personally the ending made me kinda sad but it felt right. When my character sacrificed himself to save the galaxy i realised that the final decision shouldnt be easy , when i left Kaidan to die in ME1 this decision took me about 10 minutes. I was sad -yes , but it was a choice i had to take. Same here in ME3 with our beloved Shepard. If Bioware made an ending in which everything worked out perfectly like in a Disney movie i doubt that the fans were going to be in such nerdrage like they are now.Nimcha said:Well, they did. What happens to the krogan, quarian, geth, rachni, etc. all pretty much hinge on your decisions. And a lot of choices you made in the previous games get resolved in the third game as well.Fawxy said:The majority of people aren't mad about the "sad" or "downer" nature of the endings, god damnit. People are mad that they spent 100+ hours on a series, only for every single choice they made to be thrown out the window and not make a single damn difference in the end.
This, of course, is after we were told that our choices actually would matter.
I guess most people would want to see a cutscene or something of these events playing out.