BioWare Charts Star Wars: The Old Republic Free-to-Play Restrictions
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when i played i didn't need Origin at all, unless they changed something, still shouldn'tDaxStrife said:
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so ... they're limiting an already hilariously limited character creator, limiting space missions, for no reason, and basically making it so anyone that left, has no real reason to go back, aside from finishing the less then stellar story.
how long before this tanks completely?
Wow, BW is just self destructing. They have a game where something like 75% of the people who tried it left. A majority of those apparently claimed in their exit survey that the game isn't worth the sub cost.
So what do they do? Strip what few features are in the game that people already don't think are worth a sub fee and punish anyone who doesn't pay for them? It seems to me the idea behind F2P is to keep people playing so they are more likely to spend money on frills, not annoy them to the point that forking out money or quitting is their only option. They already made that decision once before, after all.
I mean weekly passes to raids and pvp? Yeah, someone who doesn't want to sub is going to pay every week to get their pvp fix. That's going to happen @@.
And some of these limitations seem like they will indirectly inconvenience P2P players just as much. No sprint, for example, just forces everyone in group to wait on the slow player.
Sad, just sad.
Edit: and The really sad part is I would bet if they offered much more of the game for free but put some actual work into different races for MTs they would make a boatload.
So what do they do? Strip what few features are in the game that people already don't think are worth a sub fee and punish anyone who doesn't pay for them? It seems to me the idea behind F2P is to keep people playing so they are more likely to spend money on frills, not annoy them to the point that forking out money or quitting is their only option. They already made that decision once before, after all.
I mean weekly passes to raids and pvp? Yeah, someone who doesn't want to sub is going to pay every week to get their pvp fix. That's going to happen @@.
And some of these limitations seem like they will indirectly inconvenience P2P players just as much. No sprint, for example, just forces everyone in group to wait on the slow player.
Sad, just sad.
Edit: and The really sad part is I would bet if they offered much more of the game for free but put some actual work into different races for MTs they would make a boatload.
Like there is still anyone playing the Old Republic free or not anyway. Anyone who can run ToR might as well jump ship to Guild Wars 2.
Unless you have oodles of time...god, the amount of grinding to earn anything substantial in LotRO feels absolutely absurd.StriderShinryu said:
It really isn't. I spent 2 days downloading and installing it, played it for 3 days as a Republic Trooper, got to level 11, and never went back.Evil Smurf said:
I could write pages and pages of what is crap about it, but I'll leave it with this:
Crappy combat mechanics, static worlds, static people, crap graphics, too few character attributes to manipulate, unispiring sidequests, lots of grind, the stories are alright, but not really anything to do with the KOTOR universe as far as I've seen. Extra game mechanics are unintuitive and balls hard to understand (at level 10 you're supposed to choose a class to specialise in. It took me so long to find the person that upgrades you that I'd ended up leveling an extra level, so I'd miss out on my level 10 character points for my specialisation.) After I finished the tutorial island place I got so frustrated at the game for not knowing where to go next, and not telling me how to use all the new stuff that I left the game, and haven't had the draw to turn it on again.
It's just a really thin, plastic-y world, and the stories aren't enough to let me look past the crap combat, crap aesthetics, dead immersion, boring travel and frustrating gameplay.
I broke out laughing when I saw the list and saw that I have to buy a license to use the gear I earned on my character before I let my sub run out. I had already given up on this game about 3 items into the list, but hey that's what I get for even considering coming back to this abomination of an MMO. F*** you EA and especially F*** you Bioware. I'm gonna stick to Eve and actually play a game worth the money.
I love the snarkiness of this article!
As I had said once before, EA needs to learn the difference between "free-to-play" and "pay-to-win". This does nothing but make it a bigger inconvenience for legit players, as the only difference will be that they just have more access to the features they didn't want anyway. EA/BW have gone about this all the wrong way.
As I had said once before, EA needs to learn the difference between "free-to-play" and "pay-to-win". This does nothing but make it a bigger inconvenience for legit players, as the only difference will be that they just have more access to the features they didn't want anyway. EA/BW have gone about this all the wrong way.
The only restriction I can see in there that really annoys me is buying licenses to use the items -I- looted. That's just obnoxious, it's like giving out free candy, but putting it in a locked box and telling people they have to buy the key.
Eh, I was almost interested in going back, I did enjoy the storylines, but the game was already so limited, and these restrictions do not make me want to even come back for free.
Eh, I was almost interested in going back, I did enjoy the storylines, but the game was already so limited, and these restrictions do not make me want to even come back for free.
if you like kotor and want a decent f2p mmo, play ddo. It's d&d not star wars, but it has all the d20 goodness. You can also earn in game favor for points to get the p2p content. With enough effort you can enjoy all the p2p content without spending a dime. I was in the swtor betas, and when they were over all I wanted was the time back I wasted on the atrocity known as swtor.
Clive Howlitzer said:
Because they don't grasp the concept of F2P. Look at League of Legends. THAT is how you do F2P. All their content is available (new heros weekly) for everyone and it works converting them into paying customers.
I have no idea why they think this is free to play. With examples from actual free to play MMO and buy to play MMOs out there . . . why would anyone play this? Certainly not just because it's Star Wars. With all those limitations? It's like a free to play MMO from ten or more years ago, and it's as if EA-Bioware are completely ignorant to the massive FTP and B2P MMO market out there that offers better and more open options than this. There is zero reason to subject yourself to these kinds of draconian limitations on an F2P MMO in this day and age. There are dozens of better, less limiting and far more open options out there.
We are living in a day and age when a Buy to Play, no monthly fee, MMO like Guild Wars 2 that does not, I repeat, does not have these sorts of limitations is a massive success. The F2P market offers countless options that have better models than the one EA has put forth for The Old Republic. The model EA-Bioware have chosen for TOR does not compete, it is completely ignorant to the modern MMO market.
If the game goes down burning, at this point, and I am not saying it will, but if it did? It'd deserve at this point. This is not acceptable.
We are living in a day and age when a Buy to Play, no monthly fee, MMO like Guild Wars 2 that does not, I repeat, does not have these sorts of limitations is a massive success. The F2P market offers countless options that have better models than the one EA has put forth for The Old Republic. The model EA-Bioware have chosen for TOR does not compete, it is completely ignorant to the modern MMO market.
If the game goes down burning, at this point, and I am not saying it will, but if it did? It'd deserve at this point. This is not acceptable.