Black Widow Film In Development, Role in Avengers 2 is Big

[Arawn]

Sounds interesting to say the least. I know many would be disappointed, but need I remind you about Captain America? Technically he has no real super power either, he's been chemically enhanced (steroids?) to the pinnacle of human. While Batman worked out Steve went the Bane route. The rest is all training and years of experience. Widow is pretty much the same as our caped crusader; expensive gadgets and training. I don't think she has the tragic back story he does, I think she did it for the money. A mercenary for the highest bidder, or just spying for whoever. Been awhile since I brushed up on Black Widow lore. So yeah spy/assassin movie for a back story wouldn't be too far fetched.

Funny side note, in the original Avenger storyline Hawkeye worked in a circus and got jealous when Captain America got alot of attention. The archer became a villain when he was recruited by Black Widow. Funny, no?

 

[TiberiusEsuriens]

Pardon me for asking, but what does a spy without superpowers exactly DO in their own movie that will be comparable to what Iron Man, Batman, Capt America, Hulk, etc have achieved?

She's a female Russian James Bond, dude. As Sean Connery's gender-bended twin, she's an even more capable fighter and only get's captured when she wants to. And when you think about it, Iron Man does a lot of what he does because he's rich (still a genius though), Batman same thing, Capt. was given super powers by someone else, and Hulk doesn't actually achieve things (he just destroys them). Black Widow won't be capable of flying nukes into outer space any time soon, but she has many strong qualities.

Side note: Following the cinematic universe, she is the ONLY human on the planet capable of subtlety and rational thinking.

 

[the December King]

Pardon me for asking, but what does a spy without superpowers exactly DO in their own movie that will be comparable to what Iron Man, Batman, Capt America, Hulk, etc have achieved?

She's a female Russian James Bond, dude. As Sean Connery's gender-bended twin, she's an even more capable fighter and only get's captured when she wants to. And when you think about it, Iron Man does a lot of what he does because he's rich (still a genius though), Batman same thing, Capt. was given super powers by someone else, and Hulk doesn't actually achieve things (he just destroys them). Black Widow won't be capable of flying nukes into outer space any time soon, but she has many strong qualities.

Side note: Following the cinematic universe, she is the ONLY human on the planet capable of subtlety and rational thinking.

You know, that was what kinda bothered me about the Avengers- you have a super-enhanced being, super-genius in robot suit, mutant giant and a diety, but the woman who stood 'toe-to-toe' with all of these super beings was... a martial artist. I would have liked a super heroine, myself. As it is, it seems that males can only help save the world if they have super powers, whereas women just have to be hot, into MMA training and up to date on politics.

Actually, I thought I heard somewhere that the Black Widow was also enhanced, like Cap? That would make it better, at least for me. I'm all for super-heroines and more female representation, but I also like to see equivalency.

 

[Lightknight]

Oh, so they're going to make a spy film. Ok. That's what I really want to see in my superhero movies. People without any powers [/sarcasm]. Well, I say that, but she does have "Slowed Aging" and "Enhanced Immune System"... so yeah, take that villains!

She was "influential" to the Avengers? Can't say it would have been any different without her. I mean, she was in it. She did say stuff.

But, it does me no harm for this movie to exist. I'd enjoy it more if Hawkeye was included but it'd be hard to write that and him not be the star. They work well together as the more human parts of the Avengers and that's about it. But regular humans in the Superhero universe are boring. They really aren't any different from a typical Shield agent/spy aside from not being red-shirts. This is why Batman has his own "domain". What I mean is, Gotham is his area and you don't typically have people like Superman gumming up the works and his villains are typically just as human as he is with minor gadgets or abilities that are.

What's a shame is that there are decent super powered females in their universe. But I guess none of them were in the Avengers movie so...

But hey, do you know what a really weak squad member is good for in these kinds of films? They're great plot mechanics for kidnap themes or rescue themes. It's not even unique to women, think about what Robin's role actually was in most Batman storylines. Robin was Batman's weak point where enemies could get to him or was the one who would surprise the villains who underestimated the kid in a situation where they could easily have defeated them had they paid Robin attention.

So she's Marvel's Robin. Her and potentially Hawkeye but he at least has the long range bit going for him with arrows that make him as much a "gadget" superhero as Ironman. Anyone care to tell me otherwise with the Black Widow? I certainly haven't actually read her comics. So maybe she's got a magic gun or can take a punch really well?

 

[Lightknight]

Sounds kinda lame, I never really liked Black Window to begin with anyway. :/

It's really a throwaway character for them to have stuck this actress in. For example, Ms. Marvel and Power Woman were both Avengers. You know, they flying/invulvernable/super strong type hero. Even Sersi would have been a better choice and no one has heard of her. Speaking of black widows, Spider-Woman has also been an Avenger. Imagine a girl whose interaction with the Hulk wasn't running away really fast.

But fine, I guess they needed a few heroes in the bunch that can easily die if a heavy rock falls on them. But even some of the other female Avengers were vulnerable and perhaps even more uniquely interesting than simply being the spy archtype.

Even Rogue didn't necessarily need to be the version of Rogue that had stolen Ms. Marvel's powers permanently. A Rogue who still only temporarily absorbs powers would still have the human drama when she doesn't have the right power for the situation or doesn't have any powers at the moment at all. Additionally, it adds the ability to put some of the heroes in a temporary position of not having a power.

In the end, though, the Avengers was surprisingly good. I still think it's going to be great. I just think this character was a swing and a miss all the way.

 

[Mr. Q]

About damn time, Marvel! Glad to see the Black Widow get her time to shine. But I'm curious as to when will Hawkeye get his solo movie? Hate to see Jeremy Renner sitting on his duff between Avengers movies. ^^;

Now, lets see if we can get more ladies of Marvel to hit the big screen like Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers), She-Hulk, and Wasp.

 

[Diddy_Mao]

Good. I've been saying for a while now that Marvel/Disney needs to expand the scope of the CU so that not every film is a direct lead up to the same movie. Given the current established characters Black Widow is a perfect choice. We know who she is and we know her skill set, slap in a few Hydra goons with a doomsday weapon to make her day a little more difficult and "boom" you got a movie that builds on and expands the established setting while branching off into other threats and stories beyond the Infinity War that we all know is coming.