Blizzard Reveals It's Rooting for The Old Republic

VanityGirl

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cerebus23 said:
WoW is on a steady decline anyway, lest a bunch of people i know that have played it own every expansion, got bored of the latest a month after it came out and quit.

Blizzard has to recognize that WoWs best days are behind it ToR or no ToR, nevermind guild wars 2 that is looking pretty darn good. Both games will draw current and former wow players, will either game grab new people into the mmo world, hard to say. MMO players tend to gravitate from mmo to mmo as the years move on and i am sure many ToR players will be former SWG players and a mix of wow gw etc etc.

Whats blizzard supposed to say i hope they fail? Their next mmo is years off, so not like they got anything new to offer since wow has retread the same ground over and over thru multiple expansions.
Personal experience is not equivalent to actual fact. The only thing on PC to outsell WoW's Lich King expansion was WoW's Cataclysm expansion which came out recently. If it's on the decline, the numbers do not show it.
So basically, the only thing that can beat WoW is WoW... similar to Chuck Norris.

I would like to see TOR give it come competition and I'm sure Blizzard wouldn't mind if WoW had some competition. Blizzard has made more than enough money with WoW at this point.
 

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Jamous said:
raxiv said:
Jamous said:
raxiv said:
Nimzar said:
Plus, even if TOR siphons away a portion of WoW's playerbase Blizzard will STILL have enough subscribers to pretty much buy Belgium every year[footnote]this is not based on any fact, and is in fact, hyperbole on my part[/footnote].
I laughed so hard... its a joke a Dutch guy would make ;).

On the topic: Obviously marketing people from Blizzard know their art - why be "the bad guy" while they can chill with everyone else and still make similar money? That's PR! I really approve of it, despite it is quite weird.. just like Popido said:
Popido said:
Like we need Blizzard's approval to make MMOs...
... yeah, this is the feeling I also have.. Like the Emperor of Rome giving his "thumbs up".
You know, when the Emperors did that it actually meant kill him? Thumbs down meant lower your weapons, thumbs up meant STICK 'IM. :D
OT: Anyways, I really don't know what to think of this. I wonder if they'll tell some of their subscribers to stop playing WoW and go play TOR for a week or so. :L
Crikey, you are right, I blame the pop-culture!
:L No worries, I did Latin at GCSE so I know lots of interesting bits and bobs about that. Very good stuff. :D
It's not known how what hand gesture the emperor did, all that's known is that it involved thumbs



OT: WoW will probably continue trucking for the next 8 years anyway, Blizzard can do what they want. It's kind of sad.
 

IndianaJonny

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Regardless of Blizzard's actual attitude behind this, does anyone else find that, just in general, rival MMO developers behind big projects like EVE, WoW and SWTOR seem to be more laid-back and easy-going with one another than you find in other game genres?
 

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It makes sense; if somebody decides they don't quite like TOR but want to get more involved with MMORPGs, WoW would be a sound choice.
 

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If TRO steal some of WoW's customers permanently, they can probably start to shut down some of the servers on that thing. They need WoW not to be in the limelight so much when their next MMO comes out, so easiest thing to do is send some of their players to a different one that isn't as big or developed.
 

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WoW and TOR are two different worlds.
One is sci fi while other is fantasy.
There is a huge difference. Also Wow has made itself a invulnerable fortress of destruction with its fanbase. The game is polished so much that you can see your own face. The UI is pretty good, the complexity is pretty awesome too. TOR would not be able to take all the 12 million people from WoW this easily.Partly because WoW has so low system requirements that my crap PC can run 10 instances of it together and some people I know play WoW because their PC cannot handle a game which requires a powerful system which is also the fact most PC developers seem to forget and make their games for the most insane system ever.
 

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I think it is pretty easy for them to wish a rival developer "good luck" when they know that WoW is completely safe from competitors.

Still, I suppose it is nice for them to hope TOR does well anyway.
 

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Vibhor said:
WoW and TOR are two different worlds.
One is sci fi while other is fantasy.
There is a huge difference. Also Wow has made itself a invulnerable fortress of destruction with its fanbase. The game is polished so much that you can see your own face. The UI is pretty good, the complexity is pretty awesome too. TOR would not be able to take all the 12 million people from WoW this easily.Partly because WoW has so low system requirements that my crap PC can run 10 instances of it together and some people I know play WoW because their PC cannot handle a game which requires a powerful system which is also the fact most PC developers seem to forget and make their games for the most insane system ever.
I was wondering if anyone was going to pick up on the fact that the audiences for WoW and for tOR aren't going to overlap all that much-- and I imagine that there are people who aren't interested in WoW at the moment, but who will get into tOR and realize that they enjoy MMOs, and perhaps give WoW a try.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Where was this when they inadvertently steam rolled good titles into the dust before they had a chance to improve post-launch?
The key word is "inadvertently". WoW did nothing, not even a promotion, to try to actively compete with Conan or WAR; in fact, I know that many WoW players tried them both-- I myself did... and guess what? Most of them (including me) went back to WoW in short order. Why? Because WoW is a superior product. Period. End of story.

Blizzard can afford to have a positive outlook about potential competition because they know that they have a well-made and highly refined product... that's the whole reason for the success their games enjoy, and the whole reason they take the 'When it's DONE' approach to releasing games.

Even if you loathe Blizzard or World of Warcraft, you should at least appreciate that they have raised the bar for the whole industry in regards to the quality of games.
 

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EA never "bashed" WoW, they just compared a few features to promote the improvements in their game. Particularly the story, which is TOR's biggest focus. If EA is bashing WoW, so is ArenaNet when they promote the changes in GW2.

The Apothecarry said:
No love for Dark Millennium? I am disappoint.
That game has very little real info on it, though I'd love to see it come into the spotlight when the time comes (assuming it's any good).
 

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HerbertTheHamster said:
Jamous said:
raxiv said:
Jamous said:
raxiv said:
Nimzar said:
Plus, even if TOR siphons away a portion of WoW's playerbase Blizzard will STILL have enough subscribers to pretty much buy Belgium every year[footnote]this is not based on any fact, and is in fact, hyperbole on my part[/footnote].
I laughed so hard... its a joke a Dutch guy would make ;).

On the topic: Obviously marketing people from Blizzard know their art - why be "the bad guy" while they can chill with everyone else and still make similar money? That's PR! I really approve of it, despite it is quite weird.. just like Popido said:
Popido said:
Like we need Blizzard's approval to make MMOs...
... yeah, this is the feeling I also have.. Like the Emperor of Rome giving his "thumbs up".
You know, when the Emperors did that it actually meant kill him? Thumbs down meant lower your weapons, thumbs up meant STICK 'IM. :D
OT: Anyways, I really don't know what to think of this. I wonder if they'll tell some of their subscribers to stop playing WoW and go play TOR for a week or so. :L
Crikey, you are right, I blame the pop-culture!
:L No worries, I did Latin at GCSE so I know lots of interesting bits and bobs about that. Very good stuff. :D
It's not known how what hand gesture the emperor did, all that's known is that it involved thumbs



OT: WoW will probably continue trucking for the next 8 years anyway, Blizzard can do what they want. It's kind of sad.
Very well; I stand corrected. :D
 

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cerebus23 said:
WoW is on a steady decline anyway, lest a bunch of people i know that have played it own every expansion, got bored of the latest a month after it came out and quit.
Hehe, I've had the exact opposite experience. With every year that passes my rl group of friends gets more and more people to join. Adults get their parents to play, parents get their kids to play, friends get their friends to play. . .but I still don't have a damn rocket mount. Someone always beats me to it. >: (

Very few people I know have quit. Of those that do, most come back. I've started terming it 'taking a break.'

Hopefully Star Wars will draw those quitters out and make them continue their MMO addiction! Muahahahahaha.
 

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Nimzar said:
Statements like this are probably just sound PR strategy.

Why risk making part of your fanbase upset with you.

And saying that BioWare is a great developer is like saying that most species of grass, at the peak of their photosynthetic cycle, reflect light at a frequency of about 575 Terahertz.

Plus, even if TOR siphons away a portion of WoW's playerbase Blizzard will STILL have enough subscribers to pretty much buy Belgium every year[footnote]this is not based on any fact, and is in fact, hyperbole on my part[/footnote].
I bet blizzard would do a heck of a better job at running Belgium XD
 

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I want to play this but Guild wars 2 just looks so good in comparison. If it does in fact continue the story of Kotor then I will look into it but until then I just don't know.
 

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VanityGirl said:
cerebus23 said:
WoW is on a steady decline anyway, lest a bunch of people i know that have played it own every expansion, got bored of the latest a month after it came out and quit.

Blizzard has to recognize that WoWs best days are behind it ToR or no ToR, nevermind guild wars 2 that is looking pretty darn good. Both games will draw current and former wow players, will either game grab new people into the mmo world, hard to say. MMO players tend to gravitate from mmo to mmo as the years move on and i am sure many ToR players will be former SWG players and a mix of wow gw etc etc.

Whats blizzard supposed to say i hope they fail? Their next mmo is years off, so not like they got anything new to offer since wow has retread the same ground over and over thru multiple expansions.
Personal experience is not equivalent to actual fact. The only thing on PC to outsell WoW's Lich King expansion was WoW's Cataclysm expansion which came out recently. If it's on the decline, the numbers do not show it.
So basically, the only thing that can beat WoW is WoW... similar to Chuck Norris.

I would like to see TOR give it come competition and I'm sure Blizzard wouldn't mind if WoW had some competition. Blizzard has made more than enough money with WoW at this point.
Every single expansion has been touted as the death of wow, every single expansion people post that all their friends quit, and yet every single expansion more people buy it than the time before :p. I wish I could fail that well.
 

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There is truth to this statement. The Old Republic will be the first MMO I plan to play.