Blockbuster Defends Used Games

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omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
Because a lot of supermarkets sell overpriced games (xbox with no HDD + PES6 for 250 euro, and it stayed with that price until 2011 or something), they have no preorder deals, they generally suck ass and their staff just doesn't know a lot about games. Also, they don't sell used games.

I prefer to deal with the staff at GameStop.

Oh, by the way, this post was meant to tell you that just because the supermarket near you "works" for you, doesn't mean it works all around the world.

Yeah, specialized stores are a big advantage for the consumer. Not even electronic goods stores have good deals, the only reason to look for games in there is to shovel the "bargain bin".
 

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Am I the only one who thinks the real reason games aren't meeting their projected sales numbers isn't just because of quality concerns... But because the worlds economy is still hurting? What goes first when someone loses a job, or gets a pay cut?

Not the food, not the bills... The entertainment budget, IE game stipend.
 

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Mr Ink 5000 said:
omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
if you are happy with only the top 20 for each platform, then you wont need them.
This is the current state of affairs. The reason for it is that specialty stores exist and take up that section of the market; the buying public does not need Target to stock niche titles, and thus they do not.

If GameStop and its ilk vanish, as is my point, that market will go somewhere. It will most likely bifurcate between online retailers like Amazon and, yes, megastores. The increased flow of revenue from games will lead, inevitably, to increased value placed on that product by those that sell them, which will lead to increased presence and range of titles.
 
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Yopaz said:
Mr Ink 5000 said:
omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
if you are happy with only the top 20 for each platform, then you wont need them.
Really? I usually find a wider range of games other places than GameStop than when I actually shop at GameStop. I also get better prices, better service and a better organized store. I even get free coffee from time to time. I don't want GameStop to go out of business, but I wont miss them if they do.
wow, that is great service.
here in the UK we've got GAME taking a nose dive. if that and similar die out n we rely on the supermarkets, in this country atleast its top 20 and a few left overs only
 
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omicron1 said:
Mr Ink 5000 said:
omicron1 said:
This is operating under the assumption that specialty game stores are necessary... supermarkets will serve, and if gamestop vanishes, they will take its place in the world with ease.

Why do we need GameStop anyway?
if you are happy with only the top 20 for each platform, then you wont need them.
This is the current state of affairs. The reason for it is that specialty stores exist and take up that section of the market; the buying public does not need Target to stock niche titles, and thus they do not.

If GameStop and its ilk vanish, as is my point, that market will go somewhere. It will most likely bifurcate between online retailers like Amazon and, yes, megastores. The increased flow of revenue from games will lead, inevitably, to increased value placed on that product by those that sell them, which will lead to increased presence and range of titles.
I dont think it will go the way you think it will with the mega stores/super markets, but i think we'll find out for sure in a few years
 

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Without the second-hand market, there's no way for specialized game stores to survive.
Good.
one more step towards digital distribution.

Watch a few Angry Video Game Episodes and say that again.
he said games 10 years ago, not games 20 years ago. Everyone know that most console games, both of the AVGN period and of current period sucks. Its the PC games, age of empires, starcraft, heroes, settlers, you name it, that shined so bright 10 years ago noone cared about piracy, second hand sales and so on.

Am I the only one who thinks the real reason games aren't meeting their projected sales numbers isn't just because of quality concerns... But because the worlds economy is still hurting? What goes first when someone loses a job, or gets a pay cut?

Not the food, not the bills... The entertainment budget, IE game stipend.
well actually game sales didnt take a dive during the economic crysis. The singleplayer games took a small dive, but it was otuswayed by increase in MMO subscriptions. why? because when your entertainment budget is small, you pick a cheaper entertainment choice. relatively, gaming is much cheaper than, say, a holyday near the beach. therefore there will be those who trade their hobbies into gaming. after all, 10 dollars a month isnt hard on the budget and gives you whole month of stuff to do online, so people do pick that.
 

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this is true, but with a growing indie market, whose games are 10 times better than the AAA-titles, which are mainly digitally distributed, game stores might be fucked anyway...
 

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Niether used games or piracy are the cause of the problems currently being experienced by any of these companies. What is responsible, is complete and total underachievement. When and if they ever figure this out, we might see some changes. In the meantime, find a new hobby.
 

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Worgen said:
Wait, blockbusters are still around? and are able to make good points about things?

.... I'm scared, I need a hug.
This was my thought. I haven't seen a Blockbuster in what...two years? So, they're saying that larger stores that can buy and sell games at a loss are the cause for them getting kicked out of business? Is this making excuses, or stating what's happening in a way we haven't grumbled about enough yet, since we're so busy grumbling at entities like Game and Gamestop? I mean, normally, my opinion of Blockbuster is neatly summarized by the Penny Arcade strip below, but in terms of being experts on how to get forced out of a market...I guess I have to defer to them.

 

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BehattedWanderer said:
Worgen said:
Wait, blockbusters are still around? and are able to make good points about things?

.... I'm scared, I need a hug.
This was my thought. I haven't seen a Blockbuster in what...two years? So, they're saying that larger stores that can buy and sell games at a loss are the cause for them getting kicked out of business? Is this making excuses, or stating what's happening in a way we haven't grumbled about enough yet, since we're so busy grumbling at entities like Game and Gamestop? I mean, normally, my opinion of Blockbuster is neatly summarized by the Penny Arcade strip below, but in terms of being experts on how to get forced out of a market...I guess I have to defer to them.

Actually its really easy for bigger stores to just bully smaller ones out of the market, the margins on games are rather small so used ones are really the only way smaller ones can really compete, and even then its hard unless they have the ability to ship games to other stores instead of just piling up inventory.
 

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Seriously what's so bad about used games again? You can buy used books and movies, you don't see publishers and producers screaming about the loss in profits, do you? And shit, look at how much money can go into a fucking movie! How much was poured into Avatar again?

Then again, movies are much cheaper than games...