"Body Map" of where you can and can not touch. SINNER!!!

[Parasondox]

Okay, I am intending this to be a joke thread but with the way things are going at the moment in the Escapist Forums I have no clue on what the real outcome will be. Laughter or some deep deep shit.

So according to Oxford University and published by the Daily Mail (see, the joke thread bit), a study has been produced about the appropriate areas to touch any from your partner to a stranger. Show the images Rhys;

Main Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3290112/Don-t-touch-Women-let-strangers-contact-hands-men-happy-touched-long-s-female.html

Of course personal space is a major issue to the many. Some love to hug and show closeness as their way of communicating. Others just prefer to be kept at a distance and it all depends on the person and the moment. The moment being your personal mood at that time.

What do you think of the study and are those charts needed?

Maybe it's best suited for young kids but also valid for adults?

And if you are asking does it say anything about touching yourself. No, it doesn't but remember, Jesus is watching. Wow, that's creepy. Why would he watch me jack off? PERVE!!!

 

[Queen Michael]

So it's more okay for female strangers to touch your bellybutton than it is for male ones? Weird. Seems like the kinda thing that should be taboo for everyone.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Er...so this is based on people saying where they personally thought was ok? Not sure why this would be "needed", at least not by the general public.

 

[JoJo]

Okay, well that's largely self explanatory. Curious how the "taboo zone" seems to change around the groin though, you'd think it'd remain largely consistent. Not sure how useful it is, you mention young kids but they tend to be much more tactile with each other and care-givers than adults are to other adults, so it's of limited use there either.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So it's more okay for female strangers to touch your bellybutton than it is for male ones? Weird. Seems like the kinda thing that should be taboo for everyone.

I think where someone feels comfortable though also can be affected by their environment/ experiences. For example.. When I was in school, someone pulled a school prank where they put thousands of cupie doll heads in many of the lockers so they fell out all over the hall when people opened them. If you do not know what a cupie doll is :

Spoiler: cupie

These dolls, when you poked their belly button made " ah-ha" squeaky noises. So this led to everyone in the school poking everyone else's belly buttons and making doll noises. Now the same people may have no problem with anyone touching their belly buttons due to this because where they grew up that was considered normal. One of these people walking up to someone and poking their belly button and going " ah ha" would not be intended as anything other than what they understood to be a school greeting where they grew up.. HAHA

 

[Queen Michael]

So it's more okay for female strangers to touch your bellybutton than it is for male ones? Weird. Seems like the kinda thing that should be taboo for everyone.

I think where someone feels comfortable though also can be affected by their environment/ experiences. For example.. When I was in school, someone pulled a school prank where they put thousands of cupie doll heads in many of the lockers so they fell out all over the hall when people opened them. If you do not know what a cupie doll is :

Spoiler: cupie

These dolls, when you poked their belly button made " ah-ha" squeaky noises. So this led to everyone in the school poking everyone else's belly buttons and making doll noises. Now the same people may have no problem with anyone touching their belly buttons due to this because where they grew up that was considered normal. One of these people walking up to someone and poking their belly button and going " ah ha" would not be intended as anything other than what they understood to be a school greeting where they grew up.. HAHA

Could be. There's got to be some reason.

 

[Loonyyy]

You're misunderstanding the charts. They are descriptive, not proscriptive.

Nobody is telling you where you can and cannot touch, and the charts aren't meant to indicate that. That would be stupid, obviously different people have different levels of comfort for physical contact. Which is why Oxford didn't publish that.

The charts show the results of the study, where the participants were comfortable being touched by various people. That's why it's a heat map. That's why it says "subjects". It's an averaged result of the participants. It even says this in the Daily Mail story, so there's your joke thread there, you've managed to be less accurate than the Daily Mail, which, I must say, is quite the achievement.

The charts aren't for people to read and follow, it's not about "Sin". There is no question of "need". It's about presenting findings in an easily readable way, but this shows the obvious flaw in that: If your findings are too readable, then the odds of someone reading it and misrepresenting it is much higher.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

One of the things that I find funny about this is that quite a bit of this is societal, where it's not okay to touch someone in say the US can be far different from where it's okay to touch someone in say India.

It also varies greatly from person to person, some people would paint the whole thing taboo even with close friends, while others would be okay with close friends touching them anywhere.

Then again where it's taboo to touch someone also varies by sexuality(how sexual someone is in this case) and sexual preference(what sex said person is attracted to, or not), which is not just limited to the person being touched, but also whose doing the touching.

On a final note it doesn't address children at all, either when they're doing the touching, or being touched. Arguably a thing like this would be most useful for children, as a tool to teach them where it's okay to touch someone, along with where it's not okay.

Really this sort of thing strikes me as unnecessary because most adult people don't go around touching each other randomly, especially not strangers. This is one of those things that tries to cover all the bases but comes off as a drastically over simplified and a bit arbitrary. The only people that would really need charts like these are people who are say autistic and don't know what's socially appropriate, some people with mental handicaps(they can get a bit graby), small children, and people with unusually low inhibitions on touching.

Though in truth this seems like the sort of thing a university would throw money into, to ensure it spends all of it's grant money, so that it'll get more next fiscal cycle.

Edit: Also this seems pretty basic respect of another persons space, along with being things we were all taught at a very young age. I what's next? Sending the entire adult population of the world back to kindergarten?

 

[Zhukov]

Okay.

I'm not seeing any surprises there.

I mean, people don't much like being touched by strangers and only let their partners touch their genitals. Shocker.

PS. There's a rather cute video at the bottom of the linked page.

 

[Phasmal]

I suppose this might be good generally available information, but it varies wildly from person to person. Still, it's interesting to know trends in society.
For me, they would probably all be black voids.

Spoiler: Basically me

I joke, of course. But the stranger ones would probably be entirely black. I genuinely don't understand people who think it is okay to touch strangers if it is not absolutely necessary (for instance to stop them being harmed).
For instance, I remember one time a woman grabbing my wrist to ask me if I suffered from eczema. What the actual hell.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

I like that apparently it is not taboo for a female stranger to just walk up and grab a man's junk, just really uncomfortable. Like, if someone did that in real life, no one would judge the woman for it, but everyone would get really quiet and the situation would just be super awkward.

 

[Zhukov]

I like that apparently it is not taboo for a female stranger to just walk up and grab a man's junk, just really uncomfortable. Like, if someone did that in real life, no one would judge the woman for it, but everyone would get really quiet and the situation would just be super awkward.

I've had drunk 40-something women try to get their hands down my pants a couple of times. One of them didn't even say hello first.

It wasn't the end of the world. Gentle but firm removal of the offending limb and a "No thanks". Then turn to the nearest person who had noticed, shake my head and laugh.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

I like that apparently it is not taboo for a female stranger to just walk up and grab a man's junk, just really uncomfortable. Like, if someone did that in real life, no one would judge the woman for it, but everyone would get really quiet and the situation would just be super awkward.

I've had drunk 40-something women try to get their hands down my pants a couple of times. One of them didn't even say hello first.

It wasn't the end of the world. Gentle but firm removal of the offending limb and a "No thanks". Then turn to the nearest person who had noticed, shake my head and laugh.

Some of us live boring lives significantly lacking in crotch grabbing, so I can't say I can relate. I just find the mental image amusing is all.

 

[Lightknight]

There's an entire industry based on "men not wanting female strangers to touch them down there" being untrue... a fairly successful industry at that...

Also... why are males listed at being less comfortable with their female partner touching them anywhere beneath the shoulders? That's kinda weird. I'd expect it to be an even brighter color green. In fact, the crotch area should be it's own separate color emphasizing innate desire for it to be touched let alone be comfortable with...

 

[Drathnoxis]

What's with the female uncle touching on the arms? There's a very specific path to follow or it becomes less acceptable. I can't even tell where the acceptable part is supposed to be. So like, shoulders are okay, then kind of like the side of the arm, going to the inside of the wrist and hand, but outside of forearm is no good?

 

[COMaestro]

There's an entire industry based on "men not wanting female strangers to touch them down there" being untrue... a fairly successful industry at that...

Also... why are males listed at being less comfortable with their female partner touching them anywhere beneath the shoulders? That's kinda weird. I'd expect it to be an even brighter color green. In fact, the crotch area should be it's own separate color emphasizing innate desire for it to be touched let alone be comfortable with...

See, when a man is touched by his partner anywhere other than the arms or head, he starts getting uncomfortable because he's not sure if she is being flirty and signalling a desire for sex or just resting her hand on him. If she is being flirty, than a lack of reciprocation will mean she feels rejected and will not be open to sexual intimacy for the foreseeable future. If she's just casually touching him, then a pursuit of sexual intimacy will be rebuffed and she will get upset that "all you ever do is think about sex."



Though I do agree that there should likely be a "more than comfortable" color on the man's crotch in regards to his partner.

 

[Lightknight]

There's an entire industry based on "men not wanting female strangers to touch them down there" being untrue... a fairly successful industry at that...

Also... why are males listed at being less comfortable with their female partner touching them anywhere beneath the shoulders? That's kinda weird. I'd expect it to be an even brighter color green. In fact, the crotch area should be it's own separate color emphasizing innate desire for it to be touched let alone be comfortable with...

See, when a man is touched by his partner anywhere other than the arms or head, he starts getting uncomfortable because he's not sure if she is being flirty and signalling a desire for sex or just resting her hand on him. If she is being flirty, than a lack of reciprocation will mean she feels rejected and will not be open to sexual intimacy for the foreseeable future. If she's just casually touching him, then a pursuit of sexual intimacy will be rebuffed and she will get upset that "all you ever do is think about sex."



Though I do agree that there should likely be a "more than comfortable" color on the man's crotch in regards to his partner.

Right, because then there's no ambiguity...

Seriously, do people not just lay on the couch anymore with one partner laying their head in the other's lap while getting their head scratched? Really weird that people would have those kinds of boundaries with their partner.

What's with the female uncle touching on the arms? There's a very specific path to follow or it becomes less acceptable. I can't even tell where the acceptable part is supposed to be. So like, shoulders are okay, then kind of like the side of the arm, going to the inside of the wrist and hand, but outside of forearm is no good?

I think it's following the outside of the arm. Nothing on the inside if we consider the palms to be facing back. But it's hard to tell.

 

[Phasmal]

There's an entire industry based on "men not wanting female strangers to touch them down there" being untrue... a fairly successful industry at that...

Also... why are males listed at being less comfortable with their female partner touching them anywhere beneath the shoulders? That's kinda weird. I'd expect it to be an even brighter color green. In fact, the crotch area should be it's own separate color emphasizing innate desire for it to be touched let alone be comfortable with...

See, when a man is touched by his partner anywhere other than the arms or head, he starts getting uncomfortable because he's not sure if she is being flirty and signalling a desire for sex or just resting her hand on him. If she is being flirty, than a lack of reciprocation will mean she feels rejected and will not be open to sexual intimacy for the foreseeable future. If she's just casually touching him, then a pursuit of sexual intimacy will be rebuffed and she will get upset that "all you ever do is think about sex."



Though I do agree that there should likely be a "more than comfortable" color on the man's crotch in regards to his partner.

I really hope that's not the actual reason because that's super-duper silly and kinda reinforces a `men only think about sex` mentality. I mean, I know my boyfriend doesn't immediately leap to `is it sex times now??` when I, for instance, poke him in the belly.
I do think it's strange that the partner one doesn't have more green on it, but I can't really think why.

 

[1981]

It's science!

If the resources that are used on questionable studies were put to good use, we'd have cured most cancers by now. But hey, at least I have a new pick-up line. "Here's a chart of where I'd like you to touch me. It's science!"

[...]

Yeah. If that was the case, the crotch should be green. Unless women casually rest their hands on their partner's genitals and get upset when it's taken the wrong way.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

See, I don't have to worry about this because I shun human contact as a matter of course.

Also, I kind of find it odd that women have a higher "comfort rating" with being touched full-body by a partner than men do. Or am I misreading this thing? It's a little hard to decipher.