Pretty much any superhero movie is pg 13 or even pg. The Dark Knight was pretty violent and graphic yet was rated PG 13. Many horror movies are PG 13, The Ring for example. Jurassic Park was PG 13. I could go on and on. Now as you said it depends on ones definition of violence but my point is that violence is more debatable in our society then sexual content is.cobrausn said:You must not watch the same movies I do. PG13 can have plenty of 'fake violence' in the same way it has plenty of 'fake sex', but the moment you get into real gore and real nudity it goes to an R rating. I can't really recall a PG13 movie that had any really violent content in it, though I am pretty sure I've seen boobs in one.Jodah said:I have lived here my entire life too and you can look at any medium for evidence of my statements. Movies : There are countless violent movies that are rated PG 13, but as soon as a boob is shown it becomes rated R. Television : Wrestling, though fake violence is still violent. It is rated PG and the sexual content has been vastly toned down from previous eras when it was rated PG 13. I'm not saying all Americans are like that but those in charge of censoring our media are, which is what this particular discussion is about.cobrausn said:Basically people like to generalize all Americans. I may only have lived here my entire life but what I find is people don't shy away from sexual content, they shy away from sexual content in what is still considered a 'kid's medium' even though it's not... well, not always.Jodah said:Basically Americans like violence but shy away from sexual content. A game can be as bloody, gory, and violent as you can make it but if it shows so much as a nipple people freak out.
Of course, this is all depending upon your definition of really violent... Jaws was PG13 but I don't consider that really violent, it just has a few violent scenes with some fake blood and dead bodies.
A good point, which makes me wonder was it a touch up of the box art rather than an act of censorship?duchaked said:eh, I don't really see why that was necessary
Exposure to violence has gone way up, and yet teen violence rates are at a low point. Exposure to sex has gone way up, and teen pregnancy and STD rates have gone way up. There is some reason behind the seemingly counter-intuitive viewpoint of allowing exposure to violence but not sex, whether right or wrong.Jodah said:Pretty much any superhero movie is pg 13 or even pg. The Dark Knight was pretty violent and graphic yet was rated PG 13. Many horror movies are PG 13, The Ring for example. Jurassic Park was PG 13. I could go on and on. Now as you said it depends on ones definition of violence but my point is that violence is more debatable in our society then sexual content is.
Our censorship groups have no problem rating a movie with someone getting burned alive (The Dark Knight) PG 13 but if there was any sort of nudity I can guarantee it would have been rated R.
It's a possibility. Everybody wants to make a big deal and start throwing blame around for pretty much anything, but it is quite possible it's just an artistic touch-up.orangecharger said:A good point, which makes me wonder was it a touch up of the box art rather than an act of censorship?
For a self proclaimed genius you should be able to understand that just because it happens to some people, does not mean it is accepted as normal or ok by the general populace.Archangel357 said:Actually, America has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the Western world.
Oh yeah, and every redneck and gangbanger in America is a responsible, licenced gun owner. That is why your gun deaths per capita are 100 times higher than those in, say, Germany.
Go back to watching Fox News, and leave the knowledgeable people alone.
How about YOU leave the silly generalizations to the people who live in The United States and actually know what it is like to live there rather than assuming. Keep your hateful comments to yourself. Arsehole.Archangel357 said:Hey, arsehole, I'm a European Catholic with a 148 IQ working on his PhD who reads more books in a month than you have in your life.
How about you leave the silly generalisations to the republicans and don't insult people who are smarter and more tolerant than you by throwing them in the same pot as redneck gay-haters.
You know, saying how smart you are doesn't make you suddenly win arguments. The rest of us have a PhD in 'Not Giving a Fuck'.Archangel357 said:Where do I say it was? You're not very smart, are you. One poster talked about how teen-agers in America get pregnant at alarming rates, yet you censor tits. You said that the former wasn't the case. I told you otherwise.
Say it with me, "it is a more common ocurrence than in other countries".
And gun deaths ARE accepted by the populace there.
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Yeah, the thing is...
From 1998 to 2000, I lived for more than a year in Chicago. I have close relatives, American citizens to a man, in New York City, NorCal and Texas. My first school was American.
So maybe, you are talking out of your arse, mate.
Besides, you Europeans have a longstanding history of keeping the peasants unarmed and defenseless, so I guess I really shouldn't expect much more out of this argument. When it comes down to it, I'll take an increase in gun violence for the ability to defend myself and my family without being criminalized.Criminologist Philip J. Cook hypothesizes that if guns were less available, criminals may likely commit the crime anyway but with less-lethal weapons. He finds that the level of gun ownership in the 50 largest U.S. cities correlates with the rate of robberies committed with guns, but not overall robbery rates. A significant number of homicides result as a by-product of another violent crime which escalates, with the offender going into the crime without a clear or sustained intent to kill or be killed. Overall robbery and assault rates in the United States are also comparable to other developed countries, such as Australia and Finland, notwithstanding the much lower levels of gun ownership in those countries.
If we may, for a moment, address facts. There is roughly half as much bare breast shown on the modified cover, which makes the claim of being "only by a minuscule amount" completely inaccurate. Yes, it's unnecessary censorship; yes, it warrants discussion; we can do this without stretching the truth and undermining the point.Tom Goldman said:I'm here to let you know that the cover of North America's upcoming version of Samurai Warriors 3 will be censored, but before you rage against the man, it's only by a minuscule amount.
So minuscule in fact that it's just plain laughable.
orangecharger said:A good point, which makes me wonder was it a touch up of the box art rather than an act of censorship?
This. I'd be willing to bet money it's an aesthetic touch up rather than a censorship issue. The Japanese/EU version looks saggy...cobrausn said:It's a possibility. Everybody wants to make a big deal and start throwing blame around for pretty much anything, but it is quite possible it's just an artistic touch-up.
I agree, the top one just seems to be trying to hard.sneakypenguin said:I actually think the bottom one looks better.
This is truth.sneakypenguin said:I actually think the bottom one looks better.