Bookies Call It For Modern Warfare 3

Davih

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I can see Skyrim topping it on sales. There is a hell of a lot more hype for Skyrim than Modern Warfare 3. I haven't seen many people saying they are not getting Skyrim, but I've seen a lot of people say they are not getting MW3. Then again that could come down to the company I keep and what threads I read on the internet.
 

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Shooters are a dime a dozen, the only difference being that MW3 is a few more dimes.

Meanwhile, I'll be killing giants with Destruction magic.
 

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
GOTY is more than sales figures.
Pretty sure it's not. Although I'm hoping Skyrim will beat MW3. So by the end of the actual year, we will actually have a game of the year, not one declared before it's even over.
 

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FamoFunk said:
I love CoD, but the GoTY for me is Portal 2, it feels slightly forgotten by people because it came out way back in April.
You think its better than Skyrim? Just asking...
 

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Cid SilverWing said:
So now sales = quality?

Jesus non-existent Christ...
Have you thought that by 'game of the year' the betting service means best selling game of the year. A game of the year claim is given out by an insane amount of publications, and without naming a specific publication, there is no objective way of deciding which is game of the year. This is a betting service, they need objective, solid results that can be quantified and measured against one another. Sales number is a perfectly acceptable way to do this.

Of course, I could be mistaken and they could mean some specific publication or whatever that isn't listed in the article. In which case I'll give you a preemptive 'sorry, my bad'.
 

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Electrogecko said:
CoD is like the Angry Birds of video games. (I mean actual video games)
This is my quote of the day, good sir.

OP: I HATE that that is the only way they can measure a game, it's just infuriating to think of it that way. It's annoying to say that COD will be the best game of the year every year, when actually Skyrim, or Uncharted, or assassins creed revelations should be... Rawr... grumble grumble grumble...
 

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If Game of the Year is determined on sales figures alone then I seriously could not give less of a shit.
 

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The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
Electrogecko said:
CoD is like the Angry Birds of video games. (I mean actual video games).
Elitism, away! But, now seriously, in what way isn't Angry Birds a video game? Do you have a legitimate argument to support this assertion, or is it simply because you don't care for it's genre/ market?
To be honest, I was going to compare the two based solely on the premise that they both have an absolutely absurd amount of popularity with questionable cause. The parenthetical was added on the proof-read after I realised that Angry Birds was, in fact, a video game.

It was an honest mistake (a Freudian slip perhaps) at first, but then I changed it to reflect the way I really feel about the game.

To answer your question though, it's definitely not because of the market because there are plenty of ios games that I adore. It might be because I don't care for the genre but I don't know what genre that is.

Since I can't think of any conventional genre that it would fit into, I think I'd label it as a mindless repetition game. Or maybe a minigame collection that only features one minigame.

But seriously, I dislike Angry Birds because it seems to me to be the least mentally stimulating game I've ever played. Each time you start a new level, your previous experience adds up to nothing. You just have to experiment and experiment until you find a spot that works, then you have to repeat and repeat until you hit the desired spot with the desired velocity. Sure, you can learn to recognize structural weaknesses or familiarize yourself with the slingshot, but for the most part, the game comes down to comparing and contrasting your current trial with your previous trial and making minor adjustments, and these minuscule adjustments are made difficult through nothing but the imprecision of the control scheme.

In short, it just got boring....and frustrating. I bought about 5 games right off the bat when I got my iPhone (Cut the Rope, Angry Birds, Jetpack Joyride, Where's my Water?, Groove Coaster, etc.) and grew tired of Angry Birds soonest out of all of them. But in the end, I don't hate Angry Birds, just like I don't hate CoD. What I hate.....what I resent, I should say, is how these titles have gone mainstream before so many others that I consider more deserving. I wish Cut the Rope was the game that had smart phone commercials revolve around it and I wish Portal was the game that 6 million people went out and bought on day one.
 
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Electrogecko said:
The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
To be honest, I was going to compare the two based solely on the premise that they both have an absolutely absurd amount of popularity with questionable cause. The parenthetical was added on the proof-read after I realised that Angry Birds was, in fact, a video game.

It was an honest mistake (a Freudian slip perhaps) at first, but then I changed it to reflect the way I really feel about the game.

To answer your question though, it's definitely not because of the market because there are plenty of ios games that I adore. It might be because I don't care for the genre but I don't know what genre that is.

Since I can't think of any conventional genre that it would fit into, I think I'd label it as a mindless repetition game. Or maybe a minigame collection that only features one minigame.

But seriously, I dislike Angry Birds because it seems to me to be the least mentally stimulating game I've ever played. Each time you start a new level, your previous experience adds up to nothing. You just have to experiment and experiment until you find a spot that works, then you have to repeat and repeat until you hit the desired spot with the desired velocity. Sure, you can learn to recognize structural weaknesses or familiarize yourself with the slingshot, but for the most part, the game comes down to comparing and contrasting your current trial with your previous trial and making minor adjustments, and these minuscule adjustments are made difficult through nothing but the imprecision of the control scheme.

In short, it just got boring....and frustrating. I bought about 5 games right off the bat when I got my iPhone (Cut the Rope, Angry Birds, Jetpack Joyride, Where's my Water?, Groove Coaster, etc.) and grew tired of Angry Birds soonest out of all of them. But in the end, I don't hate Angry Birds, just like I don't hate CoD. What I hate.....what I resent, I should say, is how these titles have gone mainstream before so many others that I consider more deserving. I wish Cut the Rope was the game that had smart phone commercials revolve around it and I wish Portal was the game that 6 million people went out and bought on day one.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Your points on the absurd level of popularity these extremely over-rated games have angers me as well, I merely complained about your comment because of the seeming elitism of that one particular statement. I completely understand what you meant though.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Who cares if popularity equals quality or not?

If a person enjoys CoD then why shouldn't they play it? CoD is also a brilliant introductory game. It's so easy to pick up it breaks down that barrier that people have when they don't play games often and are handed a difficult game.

Then, when people get used to the controls they can become adventurous and try out a few similar titles that eventually lead them to something completely different.

Of course not everyone does this, but I know quite a few people who now enjoy a lot of different games because they bought CoD4 and that got them into the multiplayer scene.
You paint a very pretty picture of the scenario.

Even if we assume that CoD is a good introductory game, (which I completely disagree with- I don't think a person's first console experience should require simultaneously using two analog sticks) I don't think the majority of people playing it see it that way, (in fact, I think most of them see it as the "end all be all" of games) and even if they did, I don't think very many of them are being lead anywhere "completely different" afterward. When a game gets a Jeep edition every year, 3 minute long commercials, and consistently shatters sales records, I think the general public kind of assumes that it's the best that the industry can offer at the time, and I think fans of the game tend to follow similar logic. Keep in mind that most of these people are not nearly as video game savvy as me, you, or anyone on this site for that matter.

That's part of what frustrates me- the fact that those who don't know better are essentially being brainwashed- that for so many, the only way their lives are affected by video games at all is through exposure to a game that I consider to be "meh." Without even considering it's violent nature or the associations that the game has picked up over the years, is this really what we want to be the flagship game for the industry? Well too bad, because it is.
 

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And what about Minecraft? Releasing this Friday? I think that already won Game of the Year, in terms of sales, and (my opinion) quality.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
People bet on this stuff? Wow.
Why did it take until page 2 for someone to post this? Seriously, who the fuck is actually wagering money on which game will be named GOTY, other than the developers of that game, who then get to print meaningless accolades on their game boxes? Is it just that bookmakers have a compulsion to issue odds for anything that has even the most remote chance of being wagered on? I mean, it costs them nothing to analyze and spit out a number, so even if only a handful of people are stupid enough to place bets, the bookies will still make a little off the vigorish. If that's the case, how fucking greedy can you get?
 

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And there I was thinking Paddy Power's was just the local bookies down the street.. had no idea they were international!
 

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It's a shame that the sheer mind-numbing sales figures or MW3 will eclipse the unreleased games yet remaining in 2011 for a lot of people. From what I've heard, and I stress that I'm not planning on playing it, it looks like MW2 with a new coat of paint and a couple more multiplayer modes.

It's a damn shame because by most estimates, Skyward Sword is supposed to even be better than Ocarina of Time, and Skyrim looks absolutely amazing. I think we may yet be surprised by what Game of the Year will be. MW3 will undoubtedly sell the best, but it's lagging far behind in terms of originality.