Britain is getting in on the Concentration Camp thing

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No, the British just made massive populations switch from growing food to cash crops, beat them (often to death) when they didn’t comply, got them hooked on opium (which they also forced them to grow) for fucking tea, setup ethnic hierarchies that sowed the seeds for future genocidal conflicts, and then when all else failed, threw anyone who disagreed into concentration camps, including Jewish refugees during WWII.
Edit- this is skipping over their involvement in the trans-Atlantic slave trade until they decided it was more profitable to setup plantations in Africa and their being the party during the Haitian Revolution most invested in there not being one.
So, that's all happening today or?

We can go into historical instances of nations being cunts all day long, but we're talking about current events.
I mean, the US has a site for people they capture from around the world to torture. Without any trial etc.

Because nothing says Freedom like Extra-Judicial killings based on flimsy evidence
Yeah, not a fan of Gitmo.

But it's still not the same thing as like. A modern holocaust situation.
 
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So, that's all happening today or?

We can go into historical instances of nations being cunts all day long, but we're talking about current events.
The people doing this today don’t think any of that was wrong, just a happy accident they would do all over again if they could.
 

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The people doing this today don’t think any of that was wrong, just a happy accident they would do all over again if they could.
Dunno about happy accident, I suspect some of them viewed it as totally irrelevant to the process of getting rich.

OTOH, quite a few of them would likely kick up a stink if someone else tried to solve the problem, even if it didn't interfere with getting rich.
 

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The people doing this today don’t think any of that was wrong, just a happy accident they would do all over again if they could.
Well so far the UK is mostly dumping them back into France often in migrant camps there that the French Police have to clean up every few months and move them into the proper government camps they have there to deal with them.
 

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I am confused by the OP. Is Britain rounding up people across the word, forcing them to seek asylum in Britain and then putting them in camps? Or is it just putting people who chose to try and go there in camps because it doesn't wanna have to deal with them, but would otherwise not do so if they didn't try to go there in the first place?
 
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I am confused by the OP. Is Britain rounding up people across the word, forcing them to seek asylum in Britain and then putting them in camps? Or is it just putting people who chose to try and go there in camps because it doesn't wanna have to deal with them, but would otherwise not do so if they didn't try to go there in the first place?
1) Some of those applying for Asylum in the UK end up in various places given a small allowance per week to live on.
2) Once their case as been looked at, their claims investigated and relevant evidence found they're either allowed to stay or they're deported back to where they came from or where they can be last traced to (often France).
3) A major objection to the present system is while seeking asylum they can't legally work in the UK and people claim the money they get isn't sufficient to live on realistically and often where they end up having to live while their cases are heard aren't exactly the best places to be, often very low rent places the council owns or places people after council housing have all mostly rejected.

Part of the idea of a complex would be

A) They can't run away and try to disappear if their case is rejected.
B) The conditions will likely be better than living in really bad council housing.
C) They'll have access to better amenities rather than just being given ~$50 a week an told to buy all the food and pay for phones stuff and everything else they need which is how it presently works.
D) They can't be exploited by criminal gags because criminal gangs pay cash in hand and don't pay business taxes to the government or give two shits about rules about only people allowed to stay in the UK be it citizens or people with Visas or EU residents being allowed to legally work here.
 

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Priti Patel is probably the cabinet minister I hate most. You can see the smugness, lack of empathy, harshness and intolerance just drip from her. Before politics, she did PR for - of all employers - the tobacco industry, and once in Parliament continued to shill for them despite their decades of misconduct, and the toll of respiratory and cardiovascular disease on addicted smokers. She has a sense of entitlement common to many Tory MPs that the rules don't apply to people like them: she knowingly breached ministerial rules before now led to Theresa May firing her. The bullying reflects not only her mile-wide authoritarian streak and sense of self-importance, but also I think that she's out of her depth, promoted way above her ability, and in fear and insecurity lashes out at her staff to assert dominance as some sort of compensation.
Huh, so that’s Peter Dutton’s OG colleague. Woman sounds utterly deranged, just like Commissar Potato Head.
 

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Huh, so that’s Peter Dutton’s OG colleague. Woman sounds utterly deranged, just like Commissar Potato Head.
You should see some of her interviews (actually don't, they're awful). Essentially, she has some pre-planned statements, and just states them again and again and again. She doesn't adapt to engage with questions put to her, she doesn't do arguing, she doesn't explain, she doesn't expand with more detail. She just has a list of things she wants to say, and she just repeats those various claims in response to anything the interviewer says. It thus turns an interview into two people talking past each other, with the overwhelming sense that she doesn't feel any need to answer to the public.
 

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You should see some of her interviews (actually don't, they're awful). Essentially, she has some pre-planned statements, and just states them again and again and again. She doesn't adapt to engage with questions put to her, she doesn't do arguing, she doesn't explain, she doesn't expand with more detail. She just has a list of things she wants to say, and she just repeats those various claims in response to anything the interviewer says. It thus turns an interview into two people talking past each other, with the overwhelming sense that she doesn't feel any need to answer to the public.
You should see Minister Dutton and the Home Affairs Secretary when they’re at Senate Estimates. It’s like watching Yes, Minister except nether are as charming or witty as Paul Eddington or Nigel Hawthorne, or to be less charitable, Principal Skinner and Superintendent Chalmers doing “Who’s on First” and sort of getting it right.
 
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You should see some of her interviews (actually don't, they're awful). Essentially, she has some pre-planned statements, and just states them again and again and again. She doesn't adapt to engage with questions put to her, she doesn't do arguing, she doesn't explain, she doesn't expand with more detail. She just has a list of things she wants to say, and she just repeats those various claims in response to anything the interviewer says. It thus turns an interview into two people talking past each other, with the overwhelming sense that she doesn't feel any need to answer to the public.
She's really got it in for those counter-terrorist offenders though. All three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand of them.
 

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She's really got it in for those counter-terrorist offenders though. All three hundred thousand, and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand of them.
I assume that is the number of Muslims living in Britain?
 

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Congratulations 🎊, you fucknuts! You're living the Nazi dream now! I bet you are proud. Why don't we throw a parade for your assholery? That will make things better for everyone.
 

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Congratulations 🎊, you fucknuts! You're living the Nazi dream now! I bet you are proud. Why don't we throw a parade for your assholery? That will make things better for everyone.
To be fair, it's maybe a slightly exaggerated story.

It is a possibility that the government had looked into and was leaked, although it is believed that the Home Office already viewed it with considerable disfavour before it was leaked. That said, I don't trust this government (and particularly the Home Secretary) as far as I could throw it, so may as well keep up the pressure and keep it on its toes.
 

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3) A major objection to the present system is while seeking asylum they can't legally work in the UK and people claim the money they get isn't sufficient to live on realistically and often where they end up having to live while their cases are heard aren't exactly the best places to be, often very low rent places the council owns or places people after council housing have all mostly rejected.
Sounds kinda shit. Tax dollars are being used for people not working, but the people that aren't working aren't ALLOWED to work even though they would like to since the taxes aren't even high enough for proper living.
 

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Sounds kinda shit. Tax dollars are being used for people not working, but the people that aren't working aren't ALLOWED to work even though they would like to since the taxes aren't even high enough for proper living.
Problem is not knowing anything about them you can't do criminal record checks. They could be a wanted convict. They could have a history of being a thief so a company hiring them might find them stealing from said company or if they work in social care they might be stealing from residents they're meant to protect.
 

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Sounds kinda shit. Tax dollars are being used for people not working, but the people that aren't working aren't ALLOWED to work even though they would like to since the taxes aren't even high enough for proper living.
It's not so bad.

Dwarvenhobble's not quite right. The accommodation they get dumped in is run by three large companies who find accommodation, and most of what they find is private sector. (Social housing has been gutted over the last 40 years, but what remains of it has standards, and the last thing we want is for grubby foreigners to be in accommodation with standards.)

Therefore, the government is shunting money straight into the pockets of property owners and shareholders. In other words, works as designed. When we say the aim of the Conservative Party is to shrink the state, this is only partially true. In fact, it's more about ensuring that taxpayer money drops into the pockets of their favoured parts of the private sector - and property owners are huge fans of the Conservative Party.