British Government Proposes Universal Ban on Net Porn

[Knight of Cydonia]

I want to make this the most important thing in all my posts on this humble website.

[HEADING=1]IT IS THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY TO RAISE A CHILD, NOT THE GOVERNMENTS[/HEADING]

Although some parents in this country are not that wonderful (while writing this I am being kept awake by a crying baby next door with the parents ignoring it again) it is unbelievable how much the British government is trying to control our children, how can they think this is a good idea with the state of our country right now? The conservatives have now gotten my as an enemy due to there idiotic bullshit.

 

[w-Jinksy]

i foresee this not happening for many reasons.

1. the porno companies will not abide with such clear interference and would probably take it to court and win

2. it won't pass beacuse maybe just maybe someone will see this as start of a slippery slope of censorship

3. fucking revolution, this may sound far fetched, but think about it if it goes through and then the government gets all censorship happy as it no doubt will, people are gunna start thinking "fuck this noise" and the conservatives would most likely find themselves on the shit end of things.

anyway around the greatest shit storm since the last civil war is coming and all the tories are doing is adding fuel to the fire by being more pants on head retarded than was thought possible.

 

[karloss01]

when will govenments learn you can't police the internet. look at china they tried and now they have a intrannet instead, sure you can pick off the odd business or group of people but trying to stop an entire industry? not gonna happen, will not happen.

and high shelves, and adult only stores stop it from reaching kids? please a lot have older siblings that can get them porn and theres still adult programs on that children can still wartch (eurotrash springs to mind) not to mention the babe station chanels that aren't that need to be manually blocked.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

"We already successfully regulate British TV channels, cinema screens, high street hoardings and newsagent shelves to stop children seeing inappropriate images and mobile phone companies are able to restrict access to adult material ..."

No, no you don't.

We'd quite like it if you do, but you don't even block page 3 of the Sun.

BTW. UK GDP : Around $2.2 trillion.
Pornographic GNP: Around 12/13 billion.

You REALLY want to lose that?

The Conservatives are only in touch with the upper class elite, and they honestly believe that the country would be better off returning to the social values and norms of the forties and before (I wish I was kidding, but you only have to look at their changes made while in power already)

This is the thing though. The Upper Class Elite don't want that either. The Conservatives are running a fools errand that even the fools don't want. That's why the House of Commons bar still allows smoking inside it. They don't want the smoking ban.

 

[LordWalter]

The next time you hear someone preface a phrase with "As a mother/father..." or end it with "think of the children!" I want you to fucking punch them in their censorship-loving proto-fascistic face.

And yeah, that's a synecdoche. Not that those assholes would know considering the fact they prefer to burn books instead of reading them.

 

[MaVeN1337]

I love that quote in there might as well be like "We already restrict everyone from thoughts, feelings, and intelligence, Why not restrict them from porn too?"

How about not bitching about it in a forum. Go do something about it. Governments will always be in supreme corrupt control unless people stand up to defend themselves.

 

[Jaker the Baker]

Kids'll always find a way to look at tits.

I get the feeling that this law is a case of "It wasn't this easy when / was their age!"

 

[JunebugJuJuBee]

I thought conservatives were aggressive against nanny state measures?

OH THAT'S RIGHT, only when it impedes on the things that they don't like. Derp. How silly of me to assume otherwise.

 

[Cadapalo]

First off its up to the parents to enforce this kind of stuff on their children. Even if this were to passed through it would only be a matter of time before it is cracked. If people want it bad enough they will surely get it, including porn.

 

[KeyMaster45]

I'm at a loss for words over this. Really, this is taking the "4 teh childrenz!" stance way to freaking far. How is it this person wasn't just flat laughed out of Parliament? Furthermore, how can the ISP's be willing to even discuss this?

What scares me the most isn't that this crap may actually pass (so long as every male politician is a closet perv it won't) it's that US senators will get wind of it and ram rod it through Congress. You ever wanna see a country devolve into civil war in record time; threaten to take away their porn with crap like this.

Like was said earlier in the comments, the day can't come soon enough when all these "4 teh childrenz" activists kick the bucket.

 

[godfist88]

I thought conservatives were aggressive against nanny state measures?

OH THAT'S RIGHT, only when it impedes on the things that they don't like. Derp. How silly of me to assume otherwise.

thats politics for ya, the people's interests are always a distant second.

 

[Grimlock Fett]

I will quit the internet if this happens!

 

[Goldeneye103X2]

Wow.
I do not belive this will work gentlemen.

Same here. Likely won't happen, and if it does, people will get annoyed. Very easily.

Also, about protecting the children.....Well, porn isn't really violent is it? I mean, it's a good way to let off steam, and less agressive or agitating then relying on violent videogames, or hell, even punching someone in real life. I think without porn people might get a little aggressive. Just sayin'.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

How about not bitching about it in a forum. Go do something about it. Governments will always be in supreme corrupt control unless people stand up to defend themselves.

And do what?

Labour took us to war and ruined the economy.
Liberals have already reversed their manifesto.
Tories are doing this.

That leaves the Greens (No), National Front (No) or UKIP (Orange Celebrity Racists) (No).

This isn't even Palin versus Bush, it's Bush vs Bush.

 

[Gothtasical]

see one of the bad things about it is that most of the fathers of these children will probally get it anyway so the kids arn't exactly safe anyway
and even so NO MATTER WHAT you do kids will always find porn

 

[RMcD94]

What is this protect children nonsense? I've never understood it. Protect them from what? Oh no, they've seen a penis, heaven forbid! What, that child saw a vagina, the very same thing that delivered it to this world, by God, where are the censors!

Seems logical to me that unnatural things would be more likely to be censored than natural, but apparently that's untrue.

Edit: You know what, I'll go one further, even a five year old kid watching pornography, they aren't going to be bothered in the slightest. They might be confused (it might sound not that fun), but that's it. The only reason people ever get complicated over seeing sexual stuff is because we make it like that. Utterly idiotic.

 

[Littlee300]

What is this protect children nonsense? I've never understood it. Protect them from what? Oh no, they've seen a penis, heaven forbid! What, that child saw a vagina, the very same thing that delivered it to this world, by God, where are the censors!

Seems logical to me that unnatural things would be more likely to be censored than natural, but apparently that's untrue.

Edit: You know what, I'll go one further, even a five year old kid watching pornography, they aren't going to be bothered in the slightest. They might be confused (it might sound not that fun), but that's it. The only reason people ever get complicated over seeing sexual stuff is because we make it like that. Utterly idiotic.

And masturbation at a young age can prevent mental problems later on in life and reduces stress which may even help the kid in school.
Wont anyone think of the children in this?

 

[The Grim Ace]

I hope none of the politicians here in the U.S. here about this being seriously being considered, if so, the internet is about to get a whole lot more barren. I'm going to hope that government ineptitude steps in and keeps this from happening in anyway that would be overly intrusive, I also hope anyone who thinks farming out raising of children to the government gets thrown into a pit.

 

[Loud Hawk]

"Think of the children, won't somebody think of the children!"

 

[Therumancer]

The scary thing is that the UK populance doesn't even have the right to keep and bear arms, so threatening armed insurrection isn't even an option. If the goverment goes ahead despite the will of the people "for their own good" all they can do is stand there like the quintessential bobby screaming "Stop! or I'll say Stop! again!"

To be entirely honest I understand the issue, but at the same time I feel it's none of any goverment's business to control the media. I think there is a fundemental human right to privacy and with something personal, and a bit embarassing, like consuming porn, then I don't think this kind of regulation is right as it outs people and what they choose to do in the "privacy" of their own home. What's more, once such a list exists, it means the goverment has the right to check who is on that list (otherwise it's pointless). For a lot of people this is going to provide the goverment with a lot of leverage. I mean if you happen to be a big time religious leader, and you like to login into "Asian lesbians in chains" in between your sexual morality sermons, the goverment could use that for leverage on such a leader, especially as true anonomity on the internet is hard enough as it is. Oh sure, you might be a hypocrit, and the worst kind of person because of it, but strictly speaking he's not doing anything illegal (in a free, or mostly free, country being stupid or hypocritical is not a crime).

At any rate, you'll notice that right now a lot of this is going on. Japan has their big anti-hentai crusade (which has passed, I don't know how something in law can be opposed there though), the UK is up to this, and we all know about Australia. Kind of odd that all of these nations are pushing for one form of censorship or another now that the USA, "Human Rights Central" has decided to do the same thing. If we pass the laws in the pipe right now, it's going to be a major blow to our efforts to spread freedom of information throughout the globe.