Police kill. Sometimes they must, to keep others safe.Strazdas said:Morality is personal and as such should not be used to justify anything.General Winter said:An opposing faction that happens to do things that are arguably immoral and definitely illegal in pursuit of their political goals. Free speech does not legitimize illegal actions, no matter how much some would like it to.Strazdas said:This is not a war.Gilhelmi said:In war, when you bomb a factory, the shrapnel flies and fires spread. It is a tragic reality of war.
This is political takedown of opposing faction.
That faction does soemthing that is illegal. therefore to stop them from doing something illegal the police does the exact same illegal thing. Its like if in order to stop a thief you would rob his house. this only makes you a thief as well and in my way helps us lower amount of thievery. if anything, your neighboars see you got rich and got away free so they will steal from someone they dont like as well.
Illegal actions should be stopped by legal actions. its why we have laws, you know.
No.General Winter said:Police kill. Sometimes they must, to keep others safe.Strazdas said:Morality is personal and as such should not be used to justify anything.General Winter said:An opposing faction that happens to do things that are arguably immoral and definitely illegal in pursuit of their political goals. Free speech does not legitimize illegal actions, no matter how much some would like it to.Strazdas said:This is not a war.Gilhelmi said:In war, when you bomb a factory, the shrapnel flies and fires spread. It is a tragic reality of war.
This is political takedown of opposing faction.
That faction does soemthing that is illegal. therefore to stop them from doing something illegal the police does the exact same illegal thing. Its like if in order to stop a thief you would rob his house. this only makes you a thief as well and in my way helps us lower amount of thievery. if anything, your neighboars see you got rich and got away free so they will steal from someone they dont like as well.
Illegal actions should be stopped by legal actions. its why we have laws, you know.
Police steal from thieves. Otherwise, thieves would keep owning the property they stole and justice would not be served.
If a criminal goes over the speed limit, the police are obligated to speed up to catch them.
Sometimes, that's just the job.
Its not easy to catch criminals on the internet when there's absolutely no legislation on the issue. That's not the police's fault, that's not anonymous' fault, but in the end, the police are doing what they had to do to catch an illegal group.Strazdas said:No.General Winter said:Police kill. Sometimes they must, to keep others safe.Strazdas said:Morality is personal and as such should not be used to justify anything.General Winter said:An opposing faction that happens to do things that are arguably immoral and definitely illegal in pursuit of their political goals. Free speech does not legitimize illegal actions, no matter how much some would like it to.Strazdas said:This is not a war.Gilhelmi said:In war, when you bomb a factory, the shrapnel flies and fires spread. It is a tragic reality of war.
This is political takedown of opposing faction.
That faction does soemthing that is illegal. therefore to stop them from doing something illegal the police does the exact same illegal thing. Its like if in order to stop a thief you would rob his house. this only makes you a thief as well and in my way helps us lower amount of thievery. if anything, your neighboars see you got rich and got away free so they will steal from someone they dont like as well.
Illegal actions should be stopped by legal actions. its why we have laws, you know.
Police steal from thieves. Otherwise, thieves would keep owning the property they stole and justice would not be served.
If a criminal goes over the speed limit, the police are obligated to speed up to catch them.
Sometimes, that's just the job.
Police kill as a means of self defence or defence of other civilians. Such act is defined by law and regulation. This case is not comparible, because anonymous posed no immediate danger to anyone talking among themselves in a chat they own.
Police does not steal (lets ignore corrupt police for this). Stolen property is confiscated if it was proven to be stolen. If not, the thieves get to keep the property. The closest you can get to police stealing is police writing you a fine, esentially taking money away from you.
I have already adressed speeding in a chase.
The difference between your examples and what happenned is that in your examples police does legal actions that are defined in rules and regulations, whereas in the news story police did illegal action equal to that the criminal made. It was thier job to arrest the annonymous, not to DDoS them.
I agree, however that does not mean that police should take illegal mob vigilante tactics.General Winter said:Its not easy to catch criminals on the internet when there's absolutely no legislation on the issue. That's not the police's fault, that's not anonymous' fault, but in the end, the police are doing what they had to do to catch an illegal group.