sanquin said:
Games can be art. Not nearly all games are art, but they can be. However even when a game is art, they're only art third. First they're a product to be sold to make money. Second they're a medium through which to entertain yourself. Only third can it be art. ........................................................
......... bankrupt. In games, the company at least gets a 'second chance' to give the people what they want and keep them paying them.
All games are art.. Period .. there is no exception to this.. the meaning, context, and content can change and because of this what type of art it is changes but no matter what all games are art. All movies are art, every genera of music, every song is art, every leaf falling from a tree is art, every bump and flake in dried wall paint is/are/will be art.
Everything is a product made to sell money every form of art fulfills this. As an opening bullet point go back to your art history. Pop-art: Pop art employs aspects of mass culture, such as advertising, comic books and mundane cultural objects. Noted for its mass production. also for its advertising/ influence... Tomato soup any one...?
Art Nuvo: The style was influenced strongly by Czech artist Alphonse Mucha, when Mucha produced a lithographed poster, which appeared on 1 January 1895 in the streets of Paris as an advertisement<<< Mucha for Christ sake made lithographs selling drinks and candies, Hes one of the greatest designers EVER go look at deviant art and just about 80% of the work there is a knock off of his posters.
Every popular art movement is tied to making something popular to sell money, movies, paintings, advertisement, music, games so your first point doesn't really have much validity I mean yeah its true but it also describes everything in the world.
Second a medium in which you use to entertain yourself.. Do I honestly have to pick this one apart... Do you not understand A. the historical significance, or B. the practical application of painting, music, and video games. Do I not go to the movies to be entertained, do I listen to a song only out of necessity. Small history lesson during the 16th century Dutch golden age there was a rise in a middle class, finally people were wealthy enough to purchase a lot of things that weren't really needed. This Is where we get genera paintings, and a lot of more allegorical paintings. A genera painting is just a painting of every day life, allegorical paintings are paintings of mythical beasts, greek/ roman gods and monsters, and they are used to create a duality of story in relation to the everyday/ historical surrounding. So basically painters were paid to create stories of gods and beasts reenacting the drama/ history of every day life in fantasy.
Now I realize that in today's age you might not respond/ comprehend paintings and other subsequential "ART" the same way as a citizen in say the 16th century would, but to them this was something they would stare at and interact with in a way that might not even be possible in today's age are you one to really say that No one can be entertained by a painting.
If you are than I really pity you.
Only third can they be art... yeah this list is honestly full of holes and misguided information
O and at least studios get a second chance to make their customers happy.. UGh tell that to the couple 1000 of studios that closed because no one bought the game. Or even tell that to the 1000s of studios that have collapsed or went bankrupt because of piracy, or their game wasn't well received, or any publisher problems, /etc
At least they didn't have to deal with all the bratty spoiled gamers ***** about how bioware/ EA is the worst company in the world because it was sad when Shep died.