I never thought of it that way, but do you remember the term called TOMBOY? There are girls that like guns and cars and stuff like that. Not all girls out there are fru-frus.
Can a guy gamer get a say in this bull?
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No..eh..no you missed...oh jeez. This is not aimed at GIRLS, this is a message to those who cry sexism and make these assumptions. Men and women do this but maybe theres some sort of evil robot controlling it all.FirstToStrike said:
My favourite one is: "Gaming is just not accessible to girls" WHAT? So when a girl tries to buy a console in a game store the clerk says: "Sorry little lady, games arn't for you, what's that you have there? Call of Duty? oh no no this is your Call of Duty" To which the clerk retrives a special gamer store made iron to give to girls who are under the delusion that they are allowed to play games. They really should put those no girls allowed signs up in front of the shops to stop girls embarassing themselves like that I tell you.
Fact is if they could make Sims a game based on boobs and vaginas, then they could import their adverts through subliminal messages into my dreams where I fall through clouds, landing safely into a loving bosom. I'd wake up and think, wow that was a nice dream, thanks EA, but I still wouldn't buy it because I think The Sims fucking SUCKS.
KEWL!!! HAWT LEZBOS!!! I IZ SOOO BYIN DIS GAYM i HOPE THERS BEWBS!!!!one!!!eleven! (Continuing with the obvious satire theme)Archetypal_Maniac said:
OP: I...totally agree. I agree %100. Really don't have much to say here. *Twiddles thumbs*
I'll leave now.
I agree with the message but one thing.
How.
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Its enough to talk about it but I have been thinking about this for a few minutes and I could not find nothing to add to this that would be important. I think it is pretty mean that the stereotype is that women think men are sexist or only think about simple things. I dont agree with that but I do think that happens. If it was stereotyped then it probably happens often enough. Also that girl games are pink fluffy versions of some games, well that would not make sense since there are guys that like that too.
On a different note though I also think games should not use girls on the front unless they actually had something to do with the game, not just being a side character or something else. What they show is also pretty "meh". They are kinda over doing it when the body is the only part of her worth knowing. Sad.
I am sorry to say that the only advice on this matter I can give is endure. Because they are not going to change anything just for a few dedicated gamers unfortunately.
How.
Can.
This.
Be.
Fixed??
Its enough to talk about it but I have been thinking about this for a few minutes and I could not find nothing to add to this that would be important. I think it is pretty mean that the stereotype is that women think men are sexist or only think about simple things. I dont agree with that but I do think that happens. If it was stereotyped then it probably happens often enough. Also that girl games are pink fluffy versions of some games, well that would not make sense since there are guys that like that too.
On a different note though I also think games should not use girls on the front unless they actually had something to do with the game, not just being a side character or something else. What they show is also pretty "meh". They are kinda over doing it when the body is the only part of her worth knowing. Sad.
I am sorry to say that the only advice on this matter I can give is endure. Because they are not going to change anything just for a few dedicated gamers unfortunately.
Granted, but some complaints at least deserve further attention than others.clairedelune said:
Too bad the "feminist" term became such a bad word in some circles, it kinda throws away the value of what the movement accomplished in the past, though I'm always against extremists of any inclination.
But by lack of sleep I digress.
I question only what masculinity stands for nowadays. Most of what gets labeled manly to begin with just strikes me as deeply immature. Videogames not being the exception.clairedelune said:
Possibly the female friendly aspect would come more naturally as a set within a larger evolution of gameplay expression as a whole.
When every male game character looks like Steve Urkel, fires a gun like with a high-pitched yelp every time, and spends several cut scenes crying about how he "just wants to go home"
Then I'll agree that women don't need big boobs in games.
Until that day comes, give me the jiggly boobs, guys with square jaws and professional wrestler bodies, and over the top bad assery.
Thats what I consider "entertainment".
Then I'll agree that women don't need big boobs in games.
Until that day comes, give me the jiggly boobs, guys with square jaws and professional wrestler bodies, and over the top bad assery.
Thats what I consider "entertainment".
It would be ironic if I, say, actually told you something serious. Which I did not.DracoSuave said:
So...
Of course, I'm not asking for you to take me seriously anyway. It was a joke, but really. How can someone go "This guy is a serious guy" when you have the crazy boom headshot guy as your avatar. But I digress, you should not judge a book by its cover. No matter how stupid or not serious it is.
So,what do girls like? making sandwiches? cooking? doing housework? buying groceries?
they dont make games for girls cuz THEY DONT HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU GIRLS LIKE.
nativity, it is not sexist making generalizations that are on the most part true. Your different, nothing wrong with that, but don't pull the sexist card out until you can prove that the majority of women buy mainstream games. Tip, they don't, so obviously your not the majority of women.azurawolf said:
I don't much care for all the "hot women" that are put there merely as selling points. That's insulting to me, and I'm a man! Not to generalize, but I really would hate to look at that as a woman.
Actually I think those ARE what girls like...Mr.Governor said:
They just make really crappy games MOST of the time.
However, I hear Cooking Mama and Farmville seem to be extremely popular amongst Moms and with women between the ages of 13-60.
I really don't think it's asking that much to be able to play as a girl. It's not about what's marketed to what gender, because different people will invariably like different things. Hell, I'm sure plenty of you guys picked up Cooking Mama. The point is that there isn't enough representation, and if there is, she's a side character, and she's rarely used more more than mere titillation. Things are slowly getting better, but for every Left 4 Dead we get shit like Bayonetta.
Yes, this.TheSeventhLoneWolf said:
Not all women are permanently frozen at 14 years old. I own *none* of those titles and want nothing to do with them.omega 616 said:
And how did you get that from Azurewolf's post? And I'd love a game designer to ask ME what women would like in a game. There is a world of difference between making a game for women based off of what men think would sell to them and actually making one based off of things they would like.atol said:
Feel free to read some "I love Marvel" titles if you want to see the kind of horror that can be created by people trying to target girls without buying a clue first. (i.e. stuff that NO ONE would want. Ever.)
too right good sir, this being speculation from a guy who has about 2% figured out teen aged femalesdreamtime said:
That's a different sort of irony. Verbal irony rather than dramatic irony.Mrsnugglesworth said:
It's still irony.
On this I do agree totally.
To write something which isn't true just to make a point in a topic someone creates isn't sarcasm in my book. I think that the previous poster makes a point. If there is even a hint of nudity or anything sexual in Borderlands I have completely missed it. Off course you have to exclude my brother looking at my characters a*s the whole time when we play in co-op. But that's just me charging into the gunfire.tellmeimaninja said:
This is where the arguement loses me. Why do you need to play as a girl? Because you are? I am a guy who is not 300 pounds of muscle. I don't know how to pilot a spaceship or plane. I don't run around blasting aliens in power armor. I don't wear 100 pounds of metal armor and run around fighting goblins with a 2 handed axe. So why isn't the industry doing a better job of representing me? I think they are discriminating against the average Joe as well. Every game should star an average person who works 9 - 5 to feed thier family.flora said: