Can one live without bones?

Danny Ocean

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I raise this question because one particularly stubborn and retarded friend of mine (who also happens to be a Sony fanboy :p) is STILL set in the belief that (despite half of a GCSE biology course, numerous arguments, and almost 6 years passing since the question was first raised.) one can survive, without life support of any kind, with no bones in their body.

Is he correct?
 

Sustenance

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HBrutusH said:
I raise this question because one particularly stubborn and retarded friend of mine (who also happens to be a Sony fanboy :p) is STILL set in the belief that (despite half of a GCSE biology course, numerous arguments, and almost 6 years passing since the question was first raised.) one can survive, without life support, with no bones in their body.

Is he correct?
Are you questioning your own knowledge as a student of science to a board about video-games?
 

Spleeni

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:/. You probably COULD survive if you were given blood infusions every now and then; and had some sort of support structure to keep your organs from snaping in half; AND had some method of...

No, just no. Hit him with a science textbook. For science!
 

The Wooster

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Provided you stayed in the same room and didn't fucking move... No probably not, I'm not even sure what would kill you first. I assume it'd be the fact your lungs couldn't inflate, or your throat would collapse.
 

Danny Ocean

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Sustenance said:
HBrutusH said:
Are you questioning your own knowledge as a student of science to a board about video-games?
Yes, as a lot of people here seem to know at least a little about science. And it IS in the off-topic section. It's not my knowledge, it's his. This isn't one of those, 'I've got this friend who has this problem with his..er..you know. He says that it doesn't wake up when he does,' cases. I actually want to prove this guy wrong before I hit him.

I DID throw a textbook at him once, he's just that stubborn, I thought if I got enough "no, you tard"s from here he might change his mind
 

CyberAkuma

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Uhm.

Well, concidering that red and white bloodcells are produced in the bone marrow, then simply no.

Even if you would lay still for the rest of your life in bed you would suffer from severe bed sore pains and other ill-effects. (The human body is not designed to be still nor without a skeleton supporting the body)

Hit the guy with an elephant femur.
 

runtheplacered

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The answer is definitely no. Knowing anything about bones would be enough to thwart that line of thinking.
 

afrophysics

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Is it really necessary to ask questions like this on a forum, especially one that was apparently designed for intelligent discussion, to which the answer is simple common sense? And even if he lacks common sense, I'm sure searching the world wide web would suffice (although googling "live without bones" arrives at this page). Also what is the relevance of the fact that he's a "Sony fanboy"?
 

Danny Ocean

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afrophysics said:
Is it really necessary to ask questions like this on a forum, especially one that was apparently designed for intelligent discussion, to which the answer is simple common sense? And even if he lacks common sense, I'm sure searching the world wide web would suffice (although googling "live without bones" arrives at this page). Also what is the relevance of the fact that he's a "Sony fanboy"?
No relevence to Sony in particular, fanboys in general seem to act like he does. The reason I post (As I've already said) is to get enough 'NO's to just out do him with numbers, as common sense hasn't worked for the last 6 years.

Look at it this way, if anyone really doesn't know whether or not one can survive without bones, they'll be directed to this page. One of many others that are talored to intelligent discussion and the persuit of enlightenement, and that poor soul may one day elevate himself to a higher state of mind.

You'd be surprised how common 'common sense' really is. :(
 

LewsTherin

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Without the support of a skeletal system, your circulation would get messed up, the pressure and all that. Adding that to the fact that your bone marrow creates blood cells, I'd say no.
 

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As a biomedical science graduate who has completed a number of anatomy courses I can say that there is no way one could survive for even a short time without bones. All the internal organs (not just the lungs) require the support of the skeletal system to ensure they are not crushed or pushed out of position. A sudden loss of bones (not quite sure how that would occur) would cause massive organ failure even if the windpipe remained open.
 

Wulf Legend

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I could survive without bones. But anyone else can't. Not possible.

And I believe the "Sony fanboy" thing was a joke, Afrophysics.
 

Limasol

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Well without bones you wouldn't be able to breathe. his is because the weight of yuor flesh, even on a thin person would be greater that the energy you culd give your muscles to expand your chest cavity and suck air into yourlungs (its a common misconception that your mouth sucks in air; its actualy the lungs bein g expandad what creates a vacuum which air them fills). Even if you could use your muscles they would have nothing to contract on and so your diaphragm would be stuck.

Your brain would fill with blood as the blood-brain barrier would no longer exist, all your facial features would sink into your brain and throat the flesh and skin would fold over them meaning you could not see or eat, or breathe again even if the last paragraph was wrong.

Blood flow would be constricted as the movement of your muscles actual helps the heart pup blood around the body. The heart doesn't have the power to get blood round all the way, especially when your sleeping or reclining so when you contract muscles it squeezes the vessels pushing the blood through. Everyone fidgets in their sleep and would othrwise have serious blood conditions. Therefore eventually it would just pool in the lower part of your body much like a dead persons blood does. Cause you to go stiff and die, chances are would already be dead though, in the few minutes this would take to happen several otherthings described above would be happening.

It is possible to last with an arm/leg with no bones provided with only brief and the limb is stimulated and moved.

In order to have no bones you would need to be held up with a frame, pulled gently outwards in order for you to breathe, have some sort of flexible lattice in your chest cavity and a few other things to stop your head collapsing in on itself. To be honest i would rather be dead than alive with no bones.

The reason why octopuses, jellyfish, krill and other small creatures of similar structure live is because the water supports them and reduces the effect of gravity, lifting an octopus or jelly fish out of the water would kill it instantly. Also these are much smaller and simpler animals which do not need, due to evolution and adaption, and infact have advantages through not having bones. We need bones, and there's an end to it.

Tell this to your friend and then point out that he was PWNED, by a 360 owner no less. If he can counter an of these argument without straying into life support territory then i would live to hear it. Simply saying I'm wrong with no arguments wont hold water I'm afraid.
 

Danny Ocean

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I think that's where he's getting it from...he doesn't like this thread so much now xD
 

Danny Ocean

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Hehe, he's stomped off angrily downstairs now, he's going now anyway.
Man, some people are just so fun to wind up, no?