Yes. Yes they did. They also complained about Duke Nukem Forever not having high enough system requirements. They also complained about Crysis 2 not supporting DirectX 1000 or something like that. They also complained about Skyrim because it was getting simpler so the barrier of entry would be lowered so more people could just pick the game up and enjoy it instead of having to memorize millions of stats that really did nothing because the whole world scaled to your levelling anyways (which sucked when you had combat-based quests as part of the main quest and you were levelling your character to be an EXTREMELY effective thief or talker). And my GOD don't get me started on the whining that they did just because Dragon Age 2 had faster animations (mostly it was PC gaming elitists who did the complaining).Matthew94 said:PC gamers never complained about Saints Row or other silly fun games like that, it's not like they want games to be over complicated. They are annoyed when games get dumbed down like Morrowind to appeal to mass audience to bring in more sales.Azaraxzealot said:i happen to fall into the douche category that is "supposedly" ruining gaming because i like games to be fun and uncomplicated (see: Saints Row 2, 3) and because i love the ease of use of just putting in a game and playing without having to worry about install times, DRM, and basically rolling a die every time as to whether or not the game will run without chugging at all. and i like being able to play simple games wherever i go (like Plants vs Zombies) to pass time during transport
Also consoles have DRM, install times and framedrops, just like PC.
Also, I've never played a game that had DRM that required me to always be online lest they cut me off of my single player game.
Also prices take MUCH longer to drop when it comes to digital distribution.
Also I can't return a game I've bought for PC because of said DRM (or, again, it was digitally distributed) if I happen to not enjoy it and there was no demo.
Also I can't run any game more complicated than Warcraft 3 even though my system can SUPPOSEDLY run Grand Theft Auto 4 (with all the graphics turned down, which just makes it look even worse than it already does to a point where the world is just a massive blob).
Also, I've never had framerate stutters on any game I've ever owned. Maybe an emulated game from a past console (KOTOR 2, I'm looking at you.), but otherwise? I've been in some VERY hectic situations in consoles and never once was there lag between a button press and what happened on screen. On a PC? So much as more than a few pretty effects are going off at once and the computer will skip about a dozen frames so you see the beginning and the end of the animation.
Also, you know, there's this bullshit happening as well. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_265/7935-Punching-the-Baby-Seal-of-PC-Gaming]
I'm not at all saying, YOUR CHOICE IS INFERIOR! Because you may prefer all the above stuff, but what I'm saying is that PC gamers should acknowledge that their platform requires a higher level of maintenance that is beyond the average person (or even people who are considered simply above average), and that their platform has a LOT of problems with it that make the barrier of entry a lot higher than they think. Simply acknowledgement is good enough, because I can acknowledge that on consoles I have to pay for my multiplayer (or have really crappy multiplayer that takes up more bandwith than a 1080p Dailymotion video stream), I have to settle for things looking "worse" (which I've never noticed, but whatever), I have to settle with things being more targeted towards casual gamers (which usually means there's difficulty options), I have to settle with not being able to play certain types of games as well as on the PC (RTS's for instance, I love me some Warcraft 3 for modding), my games can't be modded, I have to pay "more" for my games (though I can actually trade in my games, return them, and run them on any console I choose without installing the game except for a VERY rare few that I can count on one hand, so saying "CONSOLES HAVE INSTALL TIMES TOO!" is kind of dumb when you think about it, unless you're talking about PS3, which still lets you take the game to any person's house that you see fit without throwing up a million screens worth of "NO! ONE CONSOLE AT A TIME!") and my games are "simplified".