Capcom Says No to Another Resident Evil 5 Controversy

Carlston

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Stein Inge said:
Carlston said:
Stein Inge said:
Carlston said:
Stein Inge said:
Xzi said:
But RE5 had black people coming out of straw huts and yelling "OOGA BOOGA!" Like some sort of blatantly racist early cartoons depicting them.
My favorite part was when they started chucking spears....
Which is not racist. It's reality. Man villiages still hunt with spears, live in such conditions ect, and like in the game, the kids notes will dress up like their ancestors to honor them.
And if the spears used in RE5 looked even remotely like the ones used in real life, I wouldn´t think twice...
RE5´s whole depiction of Africa felt like a charicature. Not really racist but in pretty bad taste...
There point is...does it really matter? And the spears used were relics the villagers used in celebration on holidays (see kids journal)


The point is why do they listen to them spew whining bullshit every chance they get and threaten lawsuits they can never win.
It doesn´t matter at all. Its just that when I played through that part of the game I felt like I had stepped out of a fairly decent game and into the early strips of "The Phantom". And if you can show me a genuine african spear that looked like that, you WILL get a cookie!
Once again, it's the Japanese...hmm might take that offer...

mmm cookie.
 

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Capcom Resident Evil VI Notes:

White v White = Alright

White v Anyone Else = Racism

I played it for....til the Humvee part on 2P and that was the worst
splitscreen Ive ever seen...
 

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Personally, I felt that the worst depiction of a black person in RE5 was the guy you had to escort, Sheva's pointless friend. The guy who climbed a ladder then turned around to watch Sheva and I climb it while baddies walked up behind him and calmly lopped off his head.

If a clearly deranged or possessed person is running at me with obvious intent to kill, I'm not going to stop and consider whether or not blowing off this person's head is racially sensitive. I don't care if he's black, white, yellow or purple.
Also, keep in mind that these people attacking you aren't doing so because it's in their nature to be irrationally violent or whatever. They're doing it because they've got mind-controlling parasites latched on their spines. If that ever happened to me, I HOPE someone would kill me.

ditto9 said:
To be honest, if you look at any and all of the RE games, none of them include the native creators - Japanese. The first few games were Americans killing Americans. 4 saw Spaniards, 5 saw Africans.
The next RE game should take place in Japan. That would actually be pretty sweet (assuming the game wasn't as bad as 5)
Zombie outbreak in a corporate building, and nobody notices for a week because they never came home anyway.
 

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Broken Blade said:
Oh good. Well, good luck finding something that won't potentially offend someone, Capcom. You're about as likely to find Noah's Ark on the surface of the moon.

The whole thing was ridiculous anyway.
On the upside, imagine if they DID find Noah's Ark on the surface of the moon! EVERYTHING would become a lot more awesome.
 

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ayashi said:
I don't know. The initial controversy didn't bother me that much and I wasn't really sure where I stood on it. But I was kind of irritated when they released the Gold Edition (including the DLC with Jill) and suddenly Sheva doesn't even make it on the cover anymore and is replaced by Jill.
There's a bloody DLC for that game!? Oh..

Jill is better than Shiva though, anyways. Shiva can't even use any weapon besides a pistol lest you force it into her hands every goddamned minute.. *mutters*

OT: The racism thing was pathetic. What do you expect to find in Africa, a horde of all white people? Heck no!
 

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-Samurai- said:
The only reason racism is alive is because people create it out of situations where there previously was none. The people keeping racism alive are the people that claim to oppose it.
Lol that's complete bull. If you think racism is dead, you have never been to the South.
More stereotyping? Not all Southerners are racist, and the ones you are probably thinking about are the ones living in the backwoods of Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama.
 

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Isn't controversy good to have to some extent? It creates a lot of media visibility and is sort of free advertising.
 

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First of all, they didn't yell "OOGA BOOGA" like it's some sort of cartoon. Second, and I know this is a shocker to many people, tribes actually EXIST!

I'll give you a second to Google image search African tribes......you see what shows up? Good. That's real, not racism.
Yea, they totally do. I played through that game three times. It may not be "OOGA BOOGA" exactly, but it's damn close.
You're right. There were times when the villagers would give out that LU LU LU LU LU call. Kinda like the stereotypical Native American or Middle Eastern war cries you see in movies. I think that this was a case of ignorance on Capcom's part and over reactions by critics. People really over reacted to the game even though it actually had several different races(there's even an asian looking one) for the npc models. People of all races over react to certain situations they perceive as racist or that are near and dear to their hearts. Take for instance the Kanye West/Taylor Swift event. First of all at that point I barely knew who Taylor swift was yet alone heard any of her music. One thing I did know was that Beyonce had a better selling album and more playtime on each of her singles than Taylor Swift but she didn't get the award. I didn't see anything wrong with Kanye speaking his mind but i think he should have done it in a more mature way. I stopped watching award shows when I was in middle school and realized that the outcomes are pretty staged. Either way it wasn't that big a deal in the black community. The white community on the other hand flipped the F out. So i'ts all in perspective and what issues/images set you off, that's all.
 

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dathwampeer said:
Stein Inge said:
Carlston said:
Stein Inge said:
Carlston said:
Stein Inge said:
Xzi said:
But RE5 had black people coming out of straw huts and yelling "OOGA BOOGA!" Like some sort of blatantly racist early cartoons depicting them.
My favorite part was when they started chucking spears....
Which is not racist. It's reality. Man villiages still hunt with spears, live in such conditions ect, and like in the game, the kids notes will dress up like their ancestors to honor them.
And if the spears used in RE5 looked even remotely like the ones used in real life, I wouldn´t think twice...
RE5´s whole depiction of Africa felt like a charicature. Not really racist but in pretty bad taste...
There point is...does it really matter? And the spears used were relics the villagers used in celebration on holidays (see kids journal)


The point is why do they listen to them spew whining bullshit every chance they get and threaten lawsuits they can never win.
It doesn´t matter at all. Its just that when I played through that part of the game I felt like I had stepped out of a fairly decent game and into the early strips of "The Phantom". And if you can show me a genuine african spear that looked like that, you WILL get a cookie!
What did the spears in RE5 look like?

As far as I remember they were pretty generic.
They looked like a 7 foot pole with a baskeball-sized lump of spikes at the end... Great for hunting gazelles!

EDIT: That was just one set of spears, used mainly In the first set of villages (where you have to ride a boat around). The others looked fairly standard. If you were hunting whales...
 

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Mornelithe said:
Is it racist to keep playing the racism card? Reverse-racism maybe? EVERYONE has to be included equally? Weak.
Yes. In fact, I think it's more racist than people who have ordinary racist thoughts.
 

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People who are going "It's in Africa, of course there are black people!" are completely missing the point.

It was never about how it was a white person shooting black people (though that did probably help). It was never about the fact that it was set in Africa.

[HEADING=3]It was about how said Africans were depicted and shown[/HEADING]

[HEADING=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhopxZqQrmo[/HEADING]

MovieBob says it wonderfully.

But what I find the most disapointing of all is not the claims of racism, but the god damn reaction to it. I mean, for god's sake, everyone was knee-jerking and going "IT'S IN AFRICA, THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN AFRICA, NOT RACIST, GOOD BYE!!@#" and not even giving one thought as to why someone would think that.

And guess what? It was barely much of a controversy. One man, albiet a black man, on Engadget I believe, stated his concerns over how Re5 was portraying black people and how it could be considered racists. And some of the responses to him were absolutely disgusting.

We really got to clean up our act when we're faced with controversy and claims. We can't be taken seriously in controversial topics if we've all got our heads shoved so far up our asses we could see what we had for breakfast.

As for RE5, I played the game and it was enjoyable. While I was playing it I did feel a bit uncomfortable gunning down those zombiewhateverthefuck you want to call them, but I got used to it. I did understand why someone would think it would be racist from just a glance at a trailer, or gameplay footage.
 

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are.you.the.god.its.me.vader said:
As a speaker of the Zombie Awareness Society.

I find the Resident Evil games incredibly hurtful and offensive to zombies!

They deserve respect!
Yeah! Zombies are people, too! Rotted, cannibalistic people who will stop at nothing to devour you, but people nonetheless!
 

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Carlston said:
There was no controversy.

The game was set in Africa. Africa has black people...

Not chinese, not japanese, not eskimos....Black people.

Black Americans will cry about anything, christ they tried to say Avatar was about blacks or something stupid like that. You don't listen to them.

The Japanese, outside of being xenophobic themselves. Also tend to poke fun at themselves and different cultures embrace sterotypes as a good thing. Something to be seen as humor and satire.

But they don't care about Black American's whines, slaver and all that....cause well not their problem and its 200 years old...they tend to be more mature and move on with reality.
Actually, I no someone who was born and raised in Japan, and she told me Japanese xenophobia only seems to apply to other asian nationalities,; other races are fine. Maybe they had to rethink their ideas of superiority after WWII, I don't know. Sorry off topic I know.

OT: Yeah RE is definately racist. After all, you'd never find a black person in Africa, and they'd never become kill crazy savages because they were infected by a virus that causes people of every other ethnicity to turn into kill crazy savages /sarcasm.
 

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-Samurai- said:
Xzi said:
-Samurai- said:
The only reason racism is alive is because people create it out of situations where there previously was none. The people keeping racism alive are the people that claim to oppose it.
Lol that's complete bull. If you think racism is dead, you have never been to the South.
I've actually been to every southern state. I didn't see a single burning cross, KKK member, or person hanging from a tree.

What I did find was some of the best home cooked food I've ever had, and generally polite people.

There's no more racism there than anywhere else.
wish i could say the same, but i have to agree about the food
 

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Just wait till all the birds, dogs, chickens, snakes, and spiders are removed becuase of Peta.