[HEADING=1]Cartoons of the 90's[/HEADING]
A look at the giant of Cartoon Network, and its rise and fall.
Cartoons; we've all watched them, and we all love em. Perhaps one of the worst things is watching our favorite shows disappear and never come back either because they started to go downhill, or the corporation decided to kill it regardless of rating.
Now I grew up in the 90's (being born in 1990) so I got Tom and Jerry, Jabber Jaw, Dexters Laboratory, PowerPuff Girls, Animaniacs, Rugrats, and many, many more quality shows which all share one thing in common... They're all gone now. I know it's been said that nostalgia is a load of balls, but I'm sure we could all agree that cartoons from the late 80's to the end of the 90's were probably the best they've ever been. Imaginative, witty, colorful, and full of humor for all ages.
Now bear with me as I go through the history of the animation empire that was Cartoon Network, and getting some thoughts from the community.
Cartoon Network started off as a place for Ted Turner's TV conglomerate to place all of the cartoons it had acquired from MGM. Using this as a catalyst to bring cartoons to more people Cartoon Network launched on October 1st, 1992 the perfect time for baby boomers children and themselves to sit down and have some quality time with their families. Cartoon Network first started off by just showing the MGM label cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, Popeye, The Jetsons, The Flintstones, basically any TV show that was popular for the baby boomers was on Cartoon Network in the beginning.
Although having a good back catalogue of classics to show was all well and good Cartoon Network decided to start their own studio in itself with its own show called What-A-Cartoon! This show was basically a creator driven boosting point for them to get their names out and for Cartoon Network to see which shows the audience really wanted to watch. Out of this series 6 cartoons got turned into their own full-length TV shows: Dexters Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken, The PowerPuff Girls, Mike, Lu, and Og, and Courage the Cowardly Dog. All of these cartoons eventually blocked together into what was fondly known as Cartoon Cartoon Fridays.
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What you could consider the glory days of Cartoon Network
After about 4 years of success Turner finally merged with Time Warner and added the shows that originally aired on the WB to Cartoon Networks library, and up until 2000 Cartoon Network stayed tight lipped that it would be the only place to see the classic WB cartoons.
In 2001 Cartoon Network decided to change its look and show listings. By then Cartoon Network already had its contract of only allowing a TV series to last for 7 years before cancelling it regardless of ratings, and with their more successful shows like Dexters Laboratory already being finished, or just about finished. To save face and keep its collection of loyal fans Cartoon Network decided to keep Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, but they started to move in some more shows to fill the holes of others such as The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends.
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Cartoon Networks show list is drastically falling
From here the decline of Cartoon Network became steeper and steeper when in 2007 Cartoon Network had already phased out most if not all of the original Cartoon Cartoons in favor of its own creations, or moved the more violent shows/blocks like Samurai Jack to the evening, or into Adult Swim.
By now Cartoon Network had sold out to its marketing department by focusing more on what they thought the kids were into instead of checking their ratings boards. Cartoon Network had begun to release "Ridiculously Short Cartoons" which only lasted about 10 seconds each, and they begun to air past live action shows from FOX like Goosebumps.
Cartoon Network noticing that its ratings haven't been as well as they predicted began working on a side project not unlike What-A-Cartoon! called Cartoonstitute. Cartoonstitute was started by Craig McCracken, and Rob Renzetti to create 150 pieces of animation that could possibly spawn off into new cartoons, but was eventually cancelled in favor of shows entitled Total Drama Island (with successor Total Drama Action), CN Real (live action shows loosely or uninvolved with cartoons), and some sports programs they created called Slamball.
To me Cartoon Network is dead. They had a long run, but I feel that it had used up all of its good ideas at once, and let the shows that were good die due to its own 7 year contract. Also Cartoon Network seems to be trying too hard to jump onto the bandwagon that Nickelodeon jumped on to when Disney went live-action. Perhaps kids might like watching live-action drama shows now, but I feel sad that they won't get the shows that we watched as a child.
Even with cartoons of now the separation between them and what came out in the 90's is rather jarring. Back then the cartoons were directed and run by the creators, and what they, not the corporation wanted out of a show. The shows had the fun and lovability because the creators CARED about what they were making, and thusly we cared and loved the shows as much as they did.
Look at SpongeBob SquarePants as an example. When it first started it was FANTASTIC, original characters, fun settings, jaunty music, and humor that could even crack up adults. Now when you see SpongeBob's new episodes they seem bland and boring, and one reason may very well be is that the creator doesn't even work with them anymore. The heart and soul is gone.
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SpongeBob sold out by his first movie. All of the color is now gone from SpongeBob
Now I hope you all don't dismiss this thread for being longwinded because it's something we need to think about. Should we stop putting our hearts into our work in favor of profits? What is really important to us, and to what we want our children to watch?
TL;DR-people: Get out, I don't want you in this thread.
[HEADING=1]Interviews with some of the community.[/HEADING]
[user]AboveUp[/user]
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Though one, but I'll have to go with Hey Arnold! You just can't go wrong with the old football head and most of the problems and characters so well put together. It's just one of those shows that's completely magical and works with almost everyone regardless of their age. I've even shown old episodes to my little brothers and they loved the show.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
Duck Tales, Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd 'n Eddy, Rocko's Modern Life, Angry Beavers, Swat Kats.... There were way too many good things on TV back then. I spent so much time just watching TV it's ridiculous. Cartoons weren't dubbed back then and we had the British Cartoon Network, so that meant no subtitles either. I learned English through watching too much TV.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
Surprisingly, I'm kind of okay with this. Except that the rights will belong to CN after the show's end. I know this is how most TV shows work in terms of rights, heck, it's the whole reason Matt Groening created the Simpsons because he didn't want to lose the rights to his "better" characters.
Most shows tend to fall apart after more than 2 or 3 years. It's the main reason so many of them don't stick around. You can moan, complain and sign petitions all you want, but when it comes back it will never be the same quality. Good example of this is The Simpsons. The first few seasons are far beyond South Park and Family Guy, but look at it now. Same for South Park and Family Guy, although South Park suffered the least from what I heard.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
To be honest, I can't really like them as much as I used to after hearing that they cancelled Swat Kats for being too violent. I still find it odd, considering they had other big adventure series full of violence besides it, like The Pirates of Dark Water.
Although I guess that feeling is perfectly counterbalanced with their What! A! Cartoon! sequence on Cartoon Network, which spawned Dexter, Cow and Chicken, I am Weasel and The Powerpuff Girls.
They also milked the hell out of the whole cartoon kids concept with the Tom and Jerry Kids, Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Flintstone Kids.
I think I'm just completely neutral about their existence because for every amazing show there'd be something that'd fit perfectly on modern day Nickelodeon.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I didn't notice. Here in the Netherlands they didn't show the new stuff until recently. Instead they just kept showing us reruns of all the old cartoons. The switch didn't exactly go smoothly either, it was painfully abrupt. I think Nick almost got cancelled by it at some point.
I don't even see that many Disney cartoons anymore. Didn't know they still made them. Besides the Pixar movies, obviously.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
More attuned? Kids here are playing outside more and are watching much less TV. I think they've alienated their target audience completely, and I love it.
If I do show my little brothers good cartoon from back in the day, they want to see the entire show with me. We've gone through a few old shows together already.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
If I'd ever see SWAT Kats on DVD in stores here, I'm buying it. I don't care how much they charge for it.
Final thoughts?
A lot of people keep saying that it's just the nostalgia goggles that make us believe the old shows were better. Try making a little kid watch the old shows and ask his opinion about it. Chances are he'll like them more than what's on TV now and wants to see the rest.
One of the biggest problems cartoons have now is that it's mostly based on marketing. They look at what they think kids would want and make that.
Old cartoons, and this especially goes for Hannah Barbera's Cartoon Network and Spielberg's Warner Brothers stuff, was based on what the creators liked. They made the cartoons for themselves and had fun making it. It gave the cartoons this infectious cheerfulness that still makes them fun to watch. It's especially noticeable with all the references that went over the heads of all the kids watching. If you go back to stuff like Freakazoid or Animaniacs, you're going to encounter tons of jokes that you'll only get as an adult now. Cartoon Network even had an ad that was one massive Pulp Fiction reference with Shaggy and Droopy talking about the little differences between cartoons in Europe and cartoons in America. "Know what they call Smurfs in Spain?"
Most shows now aren't made this way anymore, which is why it all feels so bland and dull. They're making it to be fun for the audience, without really being part of the magic themselves.
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Though one, but I'll have to go with Hey Arnold! You just can't go wrong with the old football head and most of the problems and characters so well put together. It's just one of those shows that's completely magical and works with almost everyone regardless of their age. I've even shown old episodes to my little brothers and they loved the show.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
Duck Tales, Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd 'n Eddy, Rocko's Modern Life, Angry Beavers, Swat Kats.... There were way too many good things on TV back then. I spent so much time just watching TV it's ridiculous. Cartoons weren't dubbed back then and we had the British Cartoon Network, so that meant no subtitles either. I learned English through watching too much TV.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
Surprisingly, I'm kind of okay with this. Except that the rights will belong to CN after the show's end. I know this is how most TV shows work in terms of rights, heck, it's the whole reason Matt Groening created the Simpsons because he didn't want to lose the rights to his "better" characters.
Most shows tend to fall apart after more than 2 or 3 years. It's the main reason so many of them don't stick around. You can moan, complain and sign petitions all you want, but when it comes back it will never be the same quality. Good example of this is The Simpsons. The first few seasons are far beyond South Park and Family Guy, but look at it now. Same for South Park and Family Guy, although South Park suffered the least from what I heard.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
To be honest, I can't really like them as much as I used to after hearing that they cancelled Swat Kats for being too violent. I still find it odd, considering they had other big adventure series full of violence besides it, like The Pirates of Dark Water.
Although I guess that feeling is perfectly counterbalanced with their What! A! Cartoon! sequence on Cartoon Network, which spawned Dexter, Cow and Chicken, I am Weasel and The Powerpuff Girls.
They also milked the hell out of the whole cartoon kids concept with the Tom and Jerry Kids, Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Flintstone Kids.
I think I'm just completely neutral about their existence because for every amazing show there'd be something that'd fit perfectly on modern day Nickelodeon.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I didn't notice. Here in the Netherlands they didn't show the new stuff until recently. Instead they just kept showing us reruns of all the old cartoons. The switch didn't exactly go smoothly either, it was painfully abrupt. I think Nick almost got cancelled by it at some point.
I don't even see that many Disney cartoons anymore. Didn't know they still made them. Besides the Pixar movies, obviously.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
More attuned? Kids here are playing outside more and are watching much less TV. I think they've alienated their target audience completely, and I love it.
If I do show my little brothers good cartoon from back in the day, they want to see the entire show with me. We've gone through a few old shows together already.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
If I'd ever see SWAT Kats on DVD in stores here, I'm buying it. I don't care how much they charge for it.
Final thoughts?
A lot of people keep saying that it's just the nostalgia goggles that make us believe the old shows were better. Try making a little kid watch the old shows and ask his opinion about it. Chances are he'll like them more than what's on TV now and wants to see the rest.
One of the biggest problems cartoons have now is that it's mostly based on marketing. They look at what they think kids would want and make that.
Old cartoons, and this especially goes for Hannah Barbera's Cartoon Network and Spielberg's Warner Brothers stuff, was based on what the creators liked. They made the cartoons for themselves and had fun making it. It gave the cartoons this infectious cheerfulness that still makes them fun to watch. It's especially noticeable with all the references that went over the heads of all the kids watching. If you go back to stuff like Freakazoid or Animaniacs, you're going to encounter tons of jokes that you'll only get as an adult now. Cartoon Network even had an ad that was one massive Pulp Fiction reference with Shaggy and Droopy talking about the little differences between cartoons in Europe and cartoons in America. "Know what they call Smurfs in Spain?"
Most shows now aren't made this way anymore, which is why it all feels so bland and dull. They're making it to be fun for the audience, without really being part of the magic themselves.
[user]sky14kemea[/user]
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you?ve done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Ah, it's been so long. My first thought is DragonBall, because I'm sure that was on Toonami. Although going further back I bet I'd fall back in love with stuff like Cow & Chicken, Recess, Fairly Odd Parents and Dexters Laboratory.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
My favourite shows were Fairly Odd Parents (mentioned above), Hamtaro, Sailor Moon (shhh I was young, and it had talking cats), Animaniacs, Digimon, Johnny Bravo, and Freakazoid.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
I think that's a tad unfair. If a show is still doing good after that long it deserves to be kept. Also the creators should be entitled to some royalties and stuff like that, especially if it did well. Bad Cartoon Network! Very bad.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I think that probably contributed to the downfall a lot, but there were a few good cartoons that weren't Hanna-Barbera. I will miss them though, I loved Hong Kong Phooey, even if it was way before my time (and no one can forget Wacky Races... I hope.)
I'll admit, my memory is so bad I had to wiki Hanna-Barbera to remind myself of some of the shows they made. This is why we need them bringing back on TV, maybe a tribute channel or something for us oldies with bad memories.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think I first started to be put off Nickelodeon and Disney when they started bringing like sitcoms into the shedule. I didn't mind at first, but then I never watched them either. It seemed to me they were trying to be too peppy and cheerful.. not all cartoons have to be amazingly cheerful and have moral messages. Think of Courage The Cowardly Dog, or Ren and Stimpy.. Maybe bad examples? But they weren't overly cheerful and stuff.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
I think they're more attuned now then they were, but I think kids would've managed just fine on cartoons and animations. For one they probably wouldn't be trying to act as grown up at their age, which in my view would be a good thing.. Kids should be kids, not trying to dress in semi-revealing clothes and wearing make-up at age 11. I dunno how this affects the male kids as much actually, so that view may be a tad one sided.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Sadly no, I wouldn't be able to afford them even if I wanted to, and although it would be awesome to have some of my favourite cartoons ready to awtch at any time, I don't see myself watching them an awful lot nowadays. I guess I've left most cartoons in the past, where they can stay preserved as shining examples of how cartoons should be.. In my mind of course.
Although I wouldn't say no if anyone gifted a box set to me... Bring out more DVD's!
Final thoughts?
Does anyone remember that show on Cartoon Network called Fat Dog Mendoza? I remember staying up till like 20 past midnight just to see it, because it was amazingly farfetched and weird. Also the intro music rocked!
Oh and this deserves a special mention:
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you?ve done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Ah, it's been so long. My first thought is DragonBall, because I'm sure that was on Toonami. Although going further back I bet I'd fall back in love with stuff like Cow & Chicken, Recess, Fairly Odd Parents and Dexters Laboratory.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
My favourite shows were Fairly Odd Parents (mentioned above), Hamtaro, Sailor Moon (shhh I was young, and it had talking cats), Animaniacs, Digimon, Johnny Bravo, and Freakazoid.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
I think that's a tad unfair. If a show is still doing good after that long it deserves to be kept. Also the creators should be entitled to some royalties and stuff like that, especially if it did well. Bad Cartoon Network! Very bad.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I think that probably contributed to the downfall a lot, but there were a few good cartoons that weren't Hanna-Barbera. I will miss them though, I loved Hong Kong Phooey, even if it was way before my time (and no one can forget Wacky Races... I hope.)
I'll admit, my memory is so bad I had to wiki Hanna-Barbera to remind myself of some of the shows they made. This is why we need them bringing back on TV, maybe a tribute channel or something for us oldies with bad memories.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think I first started to be put off Nickelodeon and Disney when they started bringing like sitcoms into the shedule. I didn't mind at first, but then I never watched them either. It seemed to me they were trying to be too peppy and cheerful.. not all cartoons have to be amazingly cheerful and have moral messages. Think of Courage The Cowardly Dog, or Ren and Stimpy.. Maybe bad examples? But they weren't overly cheerful and stuff.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
I think they're more attuned now then they were, but I think kids would've managed just fine on cartoons and animations. For one they probably wouldn't be trying to act as grown up at their age, which in my view would be a good thing.. Kids should be kids, not trying to dress in semi-revealing clothes and wearing make-up at age 11. I dunno how this affects the male kids as much actually, so that view may be a tad one sided.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Sadly no, I wouldn't be able to afford them even if I wanted to, and although it would be awesome to have some of my favourite cartoons ready to awtch at any time, I don't see myself watching them an awful lot nowadays. I guess I've left most cartoons in the past, where they can stay preserved as shining examples of how cartoons should be.. In my mind of course.
Although I wouldn't say no if anyone gifted a box set to me... Bring out more DVD's!
Final thoughts?
Does anyone remember that show on Cartoon Network called Fat Dog Mendoza? I remember staying up till like 20 past midnight just to see it, because it was amazingly farfetched and weird. Also the intro music rocked!
Oh and this deserves a special mention:
[user]ae86gamer[/user]
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Almost all of them.. except The Ren & Stimpy Show. That show freaked me out.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
The list is kinda long, but since you asked for it..
-Aaahh!!! Real Monsters
-The Angry Beavers
-Are You Afraid of the Dark?
-CatDog
-Doug
-Dragon Ball Z
-Gullah Gullah Island (I was young when I watched it. >.>)
-Hey Arnold!
-KaBlam!
-Kenan & Kel
-Legends of the Hidden Temple
-Rocket Power
-Rocko's Modern Life
-Rugrats
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
Honestly, I think that's really stupid. I understand canceling a show if it's getting bad ratings, but if it continues to get good ratings and viewers like the show, then I see no reason to cancel it. I mean, look at Spongebob.. It's been on for ten years and still has a large amount of viewers and it's doing really well.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I think it definitely has. I think if you look at most of the animated shows today, they just don't compare to the ones that were released in the past.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows
started to disintegrate?
As a little kid I didn't really care. I just went and did other things, like play with my Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
Hm.. I guess it really depends on how they catch their attention. I think if a show has enough bright colors and weird characters the kids will like it regardless. Just look at Yo Gabba Gabba...
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
I would definitely want to buy them, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay an extreme amount of money for them.
Final thoughts?
Well, I just wanna thank you for interviewing me. Uh.. Thanks!
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Almost all of them.. except The Ren & Stimpy Show. That show freaked me out.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
The list is kinda long, but since you asked for it..
-Aaahh!!! Real Monsters
-The Angry Beavers
-Are You Afraid of the Dark?
-CatDog
-Doug
-Dragon Ball Z
-Gullah Gullah Island (I was young when I watched it. >.>)
-Hey Arnold!
-KaBlam!
-Kenan & Kel
-Legends of the Hidden Temple
-Rocket Power
-Rocko's Modern Life
-Rugrats
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
Honestly, I think that's really stupid. I understand canceling a show if it's getting bad ratings, but if it continues to get good ratings and viewers like the show, then I see no reason to cancel it. I mean, look at Spongebob.. It's been on for ten years and still has a large amount of viewers and it's doing really well.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I think it definitely has. I think if you look at most of the animated shows today, they just don't compare to the ones that were released in the past.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows
started to disintegrate?
As a little kid I didn't really care. I just went and did other things, like play with my Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
Hm.. I guess it really depends on how they catch their attention. I think if a show has enough bright colors and weird characters the kids will like it regardless. Just look at Yo Gabba Gabba...
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
I would definitely want to buy them, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay an extreme amount of money for them.
Final thoughts?
Well, I just wanna thank you for interviewing me. Uh.. Thanks!
[user]reaper_2k9[/user]
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
Cartoon Network: Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd and Eddy,Cow and Chicken, and all the anime that they were running during this golden period of cartoonage. Nick: Ren and Stimpy, Rockos Mordern Life, Invader Zim. Disney: I didn't watch much Disney as a kid but the one show I did like wasn't a cartoon and that was Dinosaurs.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
This is a really stupid policy that has caused them to lose a lot of great shows. The crap they now fill the time with is so mediocre I dont understand how and why this policy exsists.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I dont think animation has suffered because of that, I think its the demographic that animators are trying to cater too. The kids they are trying to please are not going to be satisfied with the same cartoons that I grew up with.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think some of that fallout came from the push towards more live action shows as well as more cartoons geared toward younger children. Plus I dont think studios like Nickelodeon could get away running a show like Ren and Stimpy today without backlash from parents claiming its some how corrupting their children.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
For one I hate reality t.v because ITS NOT real, but for kids watching they see actual people doing whatever it is, where as a cartoon is clearly not real. I think they can relate better to the reality show far better then the cartoon especially if the show has kids their age on it.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Yea I would pay for box sets of the shows that I can still enjoy today, its odd they dont release them because there are not just kids but adults who might not have ever seen these shows and might enjoy them. Thats somewhere these companies could make a lot of money.
Final Thoughts?
My final thought is another station that used to run animated series is MTV Daria Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux, The Maxx, Liquid Television was awesome I wish they hadn't stopped it.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
Cartoon Network: Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd and Eddy,Cow and Chicken, and all the anime that they were running during this golden period of cartoonage. Nick: Ren and Stimpy, Rockos Mordern Life, Invader Zim. Disney: I didn't watch much Disney as a kid but the one show I did like wasn't a cartoon and that was Dinosaurs.
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
This is a really stupid policy that has caused them to lose a lot of great shows. The crap they now fill the time with is so mediocre I dont understand how and why this policy exsists.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
I dont think animation has suffered because of that, I think its the demographic that animators are trying to cater too. The kids they are trying to please are not going to be satisfied with the same cartoons that I grew up with.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think some of that fallout came from the push towards more live action shows as well as more cartoons geared toward younger children. Plus I dont think studios like Nickelodeon could get away running a show like Ren and Stimpy today without backlash from parents claiming its some how corrupting their children.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
For one I hate reality t.v because ITS NOT real, but for kids watching they see actual people doing whatever it is, where as a cartoon is clearly not real. I think they can relate better to the reality show far better then the cartoon especially if the show has kids their age on it.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Yea I would pay for box sets of the shows that I can still enjoy today, its odd they dont release them because there are not just kids but adults who might not have ever seen these shows and might enjoy them. Thats somewhere these companies could make a lot of money.
Final Thoughts?
My final thought is another station that used to run animated series is MTV Daria Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux, The Maxx, Liquid Television was awesome I wish they hadn't stopped it.
[user]razer17[/user]
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Darkwing duck is the first that springs to mind. I think it has an excellent character, and it isn't quite as happy and silly as a lot of kids programming. Of course, Pinky and the Brain also, since that show is still great to watch on occasion even now.
There is Chip and Dale (at least, I think that is the english name) which I enjoyed. Gummy bears was good silly fun, and I could get back into that.
And who can forget Dexters Lab and Ed, Edd and Eddy.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
I never really payed attention to who creates the cartoons I watched, but my favourites were definitely Darkwing Duck, Gummy Bears and Kapt'n Balu
(Which Google tells me is called Talespin in English).
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
It seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Why cancel your best show after 7 years? And it isn't fair to content creators either. They have to stop creating a show after 7 years, regardless. I guess the reason why is because kids will watch a show for that sort of length of time, and then there will be a new generation which will have new content, and re-runs. But it seems very unfair, I don't think they should keep the rights.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
H-B has a lot of very good shows. They were far better at qualit control than many of their peers. Even if I didn't personally like a show, I know they were still mostly well done.
However, I don't think that the quality of cartoons has gone down because H-B is gone, it's just that H-B doesn't exist to balance out the good with the bad.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I honestly didn't notice the disintegration at the time. I stopped watching most cartoons at a fairly early age because I moved to England and only had the basic channels. When I see the kind of programming on CN or Nick now, it's kind of sad. Their is rehashes of great old shows, and the new stuff is completely dire. It's quite sad that the kids of today have such poor quality to entertain them.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
I can't say that I have really seen a lot of reality shows for kids. I have seen live action shows (all of which are terrible, as far as I can tell).
But, no, I think cartoons are more attuned to kids. I think they are more colourful and yo can do a lot more with it. Why would you want childrens big brother instead of Tom and Jerry?
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
I wouldn't pay through the nose, no. I would definitely buy select series for nostalgias sake, if they were a decent price.
Final thoughts?
I used to love a lot of the cartoons I watched as a child. I still occasionally youtube to listen to the theme tunes of some of my favourites. It's nice to be nostalgic every now and then.
And it definitely saddens me the kind of shows that they show on some of the kids channels now. The kind of crap my sister occasionally watches makes me worry for this generation. The death of cartoons is a terrible thing.
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Darkwing duck is the first that springs to mind. I think it has an excellent character, and it isn't quite as happy and silly as a lot of kids programming. Of course, Pinky and the Brain also, since that show is still great to watch on occasion even now.
There is Chip and Dale (at least, I think that is the english name) which I enjoyed. Gummy bears was good silly fun, and I could get back into that.
And who can forget Dexters Lab and Ed, Edd and Eddy.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
I never really payed attention to who creates the cartoons I watched, but my favourites were definitely Darkwing Duck, Gummy Bears and Kapt'n Balu
(Which Google tells me is called Talespin in English).
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
It seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Why cancel your best show after 7 years? And it isn't fair to content creators either. They have to stop creating a show after 7 years, regardless. I guess the reason why is because kids will watch a show for that sort of length of time, and then there will be a new generation which will have new content, and re-runs. But it seems very unfair, I don't think they should keep the rights.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
H-B has a lot of very good shows. They were far better at qualit control than many of their peers. Even if I didn't personally like a show, I know they were still mostly well done.
However, I don't think that the quality of cartoons has gone down because H-B is gone, it's just that H-B doesn't exist to balance out the good with the bad.
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I honestly didn't notice the disintegration at the time. I stopped watching most cartoons at a fairly early age because I moved to England and only had the basic channels. When I see the kind of programming on CN or Nick now, it's kind of sad. Their is rehashes of great old shows, and the new stuff is completely dire. It's quite sad that the kids of today have such poor quality to entertain them.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
I can't say that I have really seen a lot of reality shows for kids. I have seen live action shows (all of which are terrible, as far as I can tell).
But, no, I think cartoons are more attuned to kids. I think they are more colourful and yo can do a lot more with it. Why would you want childrens big brother instead of Tom and Jerry?
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
I wouldn't pay through the nose, no. I would definitely buy select series for nostalgias sake, if they were a decent price.
Final thoughts?
I used to love a lot of the cartoons I watched as a child. I still occasionally youtube to listen to the theme tunes of some of my favourites. It's nice to be nostalgic every now and then.
And it definitely saddens me the kind of shows that they show on some of the kids channels now. The kind of crap my sister occasionally watches makes me worry for this generation. The death of cartoons is a terrible thing.
[user]RavingPenguin[/user]
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Most likely the old adult swim or the old Toonami. Adult swim nowadays is chalked full of idiot shows like Squidbillys and King of the Hill. It used to shows like Outlaw Star and Big O. Things I would try to sneak downstairs to watch.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
List time: Outlaw Star, Inuyasha, Yuyu Hakusho, Rocket Power, Ed Edd and Eddy, Invader Zim (which was resurrected
), Dexters Lab, Swat Cats, and Looney Tunes
Cartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
I think its a load of hooey. Intellectual property should not be limited to a company or a span of 7 years. Thats just stupid.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
Not animation as a whole, sure the animation of the company has taken a plunge but you can't say on the whole. Case in Point: Avatar: The Last Airbender is animated but not associated with H-B (I'm being difficult on this point =P)
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think I was too old to care at that point, or it may be the fact that I didn't pay attention to those corporations much. Either way, I don't really know.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
Children will watch whatever is on the TV. However reality shows are mostly filled with useless dribble, and before anyone spouts off that cartoons are more or less the same I'd like to say something. How many cartoons inspired you to go out and play fighter jets or dinosaurs? Now, how many reality shows would inspire the same? Thats what I though.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Probably not, I'm not really a good consumer as in, I generally don't buy things.
Final thoughts?
Nope
If I gave you the chance to forget everything that you've done now and go back to watch the old Cartoon Network/Nick/etc. which shows would you fall in love with again?
Most likely the old adult swim or the old Toonami. Adult swim nowadays is chalked full of idiot shows like Squidbillys and King of the Hill. It used to shows like Outlaw Star and Big O. Things I would try to sneak downstairs to watch.
What were your favorite shows from the old Cartoon Network, Nick, or Disney?
List time: Outlaw Star, Inuyasha, Yuyu Hakusho, Rocket Power, Ed Edd and Eddy, Invader Zim (which was resurrected
), Dexters Lab, Swat Cats, and Looney TunesCartoon Network has a contract that it has its entire set of creators sign when they create a t.v. show. The contract says that after 7 years Cartoon Network will cancel the show regardless of ratings, and they keep all of the rights to the show. How do you fell about Cartoon Network enforcing this?
I think its a load of hooey. Intellectual property should not be limited to a company or a span of 7 years. Thats just stupid.
The Hanna-Barbera logo has almost just disappeared from animation itself. You use to be able to see this logo and think of it as a Nintendo Seal of Quality, but no more. Do you think with the downfall of Hanna-Barbera that animation as a whole suffered for it?
Not animation as a whole, sure the animation of the company has taken a plunge but you can't say on the whole. Case in Point: Avatar: The Last Airbender is animated but not associated with H-B (I'm being difficult on this point =P)
While on the topic of studio downfalls both Nickelodeon and Disney both once had enormous control over animation with their quality cartoons. How did you feel once their shows started to disintegrate?
I think I was too old to care at that point, or it may be the fact that I didn't pay attention to those corporations much. Either way, I don't really know.
The first to begin the separation from cartoons to children aimed reality shows was jarring indeed, but do you feel that children are more attuned for the reality shows than a cartoon?
Children will watch whatever is on the TV. However reality shows are mostly filled with useless dribble, and before anyone spouts off that cartoons are more or less the same I'd like to say something. How many cartoons inspired you to go out and play fighter jets or dinosaurs? Now, how many reality shows would inspire the same? Thats what I though.
Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and Disney seem to have this terrible habit of not releasing t.v. shows from back in the day on DVD. If they did begin to start releasing DVDs of the cartoons from your past would you pay through the nose to get them?
Probably not, I'm not really a good consumer as in, I generally don't buy things.
Final thoughts?
Nope
