Cel-Shading is it good or bad?
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It looks good when its not done as a cost cutting measure or done to help the console compensate for lack of hardware
however i prefer full rendered graphics because there only so many games that can cel shaded before it starts to look old
however i prefer full rendered graphics because there only so many games that can cel shaded before it starts to look old
Cell Shading is just an art style as far as I'm concerned, it all depends on the artist.
It's sort of like comparing Eastern "Anime/Manga" type artwork to western "Cartoon/Comic" type artwork. It can vary greatly in quality, neither way of stylizing things is inherantly superior or inferior to another.
In many cases when a game has bad graphics, I don't always think it's the style, but the art direction, and the specific creators they brought on staff.
It's sort of like comparing Eastern "Anime/Manga" type artwork to western "Cartoon/Comic" type artwork. It can vary greatly in quality, neither way of stylizing things is inherantly superior or inferior to another.
In many cases when a game has bad graphics, I don't always think it's the style, but the art direction, and the specific creators they brought on staff.
Halftone, there's an idea, but... a game conveyed with pointillism? I can't even speculate on if that's even possible, much less feasible. I'd love to be proven wrong, though; there's no greater joy in an endlessly reiterative, overcautious and frankly unoriginal industry than to see the impossible brought to life.RhomCo said:
I'd suggest an Impressionist-styled game, myself, but one of the qualities of that style is that it looks like ass close-up, so the style itself might be it's own biggest problem if the developer isn't able to find some sort of workaround.
Meh, Cel-Shading is just a production choice.
It isn't good or bad, just like any form of art direction certain techniques can be more beneficial to certain games more than others... But it is perfectly neutral in my opinion.
It isn't good or bad, just like any form of art direction certain techniques can be more beneficial to certain games more than others... But it is perfectly neutral in my opinion.
Quite possible. Feasible? Dunno. Most people would just ***** about having to stand 10 feet away to get an idea of what's going on.TheRocketeer said:
Well they'd have to get a really good grip on the fundamentals of Impressionism and what it was trying to achieve. I'd love to see a game use a visual style similar to Franz Marc... but I think his bold use of colour and line might be a bit much for most people.
No, you must assign it a moral value and defend that assignation with vitriol!Thegoodfriar said:
I was kind of thinking that, too. Understanding the world in front of you is kind of a big deal when ant men are shooting rockets at you. I think any experimental art style has a better chance (and a better testing area) in a slower-paced genre first, like the puzzle genre, or maybe an easier platformer like the newest Prince of PersiaRhomCo said:
I can't really claim to know enough about art OR programming to speculate, aside from enjoying their products. Again, most of these experimental or highly-stylized art choices would fit best in slower-paced, more cerebral types of games first, which is fortunate, because these games' audiences are most likely to enjoy visual homages to centuries-old painters- or, failing that, just enjoying something they haven't seen before in a game.RhomCo said:
What's he doing here, with his preachy 'logic' and his hoity-toity 'medial attitude?'RhomCo said:
Let's bring him down to our level so we can feel good about ourselves again!
It depends on how it looks. It can be done well, or very bad. If anyone remembers Steambot Chronicles, I think it was an excellent use of cel shading.
I actually own Borderlands on the 360 and adored the graphic design, although the moon looked like it was melting (which my fiance pointed out) but I loved it, thought that it fit the game perfectly. I also really loved that game, despite it being really easy.Jennacide said:
I've heard that the second playthrough is much harder and possibly what the designers meant as the "meat and potatoes" of the game. But come-on, I barely play a game twice...unless it's near perfect.
As for Cel-Shading...I HATED it with WindWaker (but my dislike of that game is well-known, and it's not just for the graphic design) and I did grow very tired of it when it was really big.
But there are games that call for it, Borderlands being one of them, it helps it stand out from the crowd.
Well, XIII actually pulled off cel-shading really well back then, considering it's about 6-7 years old, but it waws actually kinda necessary as it's based of a cel-shaded comic, and the developers (Ubisoft) wanted to stick to the comic.
Yeah, crack a joke about Ubisoft now that you know they made a GOOD game.
(Insert DRM joke here)
Yeah, crack a joke about Ubisoft now that you know they made a GOOD game.
(Insert DRM joke here)
Yeah, to say something is a kiddy game just because of the art style is stupid. Heck, even if it was "kiddy," who's to say it can't still be awesome? Like Avatar: The Last Airbender!Avatar Roku said:
And in response, I love your avatar and username both! Best show ever!
That last game, Evil Genius, looks like something from 10 years ago... If it's seriously from 2004 it hasn't aged well.
As for the title, it depends. I always thought XIII looked cool but I never got around to playing it. Wind Waker was alright. I don't really see it on the Borderlands screenshot, but Crackdown had it I think. I believe it works for comic-style games. And I prefer games go full cell-shaded instead of halfing it.
As for the title, it depends. I always thought XIII looked cool but I never got around to playing it. Wind Waker was alright. I don't really see it on the Borderlands screenshot, but Crackdown had it I think. I believe it works for comic-style games. And I prefer games go full cell-shaded instead of halfing it.