Chair With DRM Collapses After Being Sat On Eight Times
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I foresee a nightmarish, hellscape of a future wherein Ikea and other furniture retailers send demos of couches, chairs, etc to people homes. After a customer has enjoyed the demo, the piece they are trying out crumples into dust, waiting for the Hyper-Roomba to clean it up. Hopefully it'll last long enough for me to enjoy the latest episode of The Running Man!
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I'd like to see them do something similar only instead of this kind of DRM they make a bed that is only in a position that allows you to lay in it if you're wearing a really stupid hat or, something. Something that can be loosely connected to always online DRM.
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I'd like to see them do something similar only instead of this kind of DRM they make a bed that is only in a position that allows you to lay in it if you're wearing a really stupid hat or, something. Something that can be loosely connected to always online DRM.
This puts me in mind of the ZP review of Ass Creed 3...Anybody wanna dress up as a pirate and rob a furniture show room with me now? We should be fine, Batman doesn't really exist in this version of Earth.Sgt. Sykes said:
You've apparently never had a thief break into your home or somehow manage to be naive enough to believe that no thief has ever broken into a store to steal something.Twilight_guy said:
What I'm getting at here is that DRM is intended to prevent pirates from stealing games like you would assume real world DRM is intended to prevent thieves from stealing a chair. And in both cases, the pirate/thief probably steals it anyway because they know they can get around the DRM and end up with a better product than those of us that paid for it.
The install limit DRM was a thing that was kind of an experiment by, you guessed it, EA a few years back. I don't think many games ended up getting the install limit treatment but it was still a ridiculous stunt and made a lot of people angry. Especially since EA didn't exactly tell us that there was a 6x install limit on Spore and that failed install attempts counted. That the installer was buggy as hell didn't help their case.Vault101 said:
No. No, no, that's wrong. Copyright infringement and copyright theft are not mutually exclusive concepts.Doom-Slayer said:
If I remember correctly, Bioshock was the first major offender regarding install limits, and the internet was not pleased for a while. My disc copy of Mass Effect 1 doesn't work anymore because I've upgraded my motherboard twice since then. Re-installing your operating system also counted as an additional computer to your "concurrent installs" limit. I swore back then that somebody was actively trying to destroy the PC gaming market.VanQ said:
I actually agree, through obviously from the different side of things than you.Twilight_guy said:
People who make forced comparisons between property and intellectual property, are ALWAYS missing the point, whether they are talking about the artist's "property" being stolen like a chair, or my bought "property" being limited like this chair. (even though the two are the same thing, the author, the consumer, the public, and the publisher, all "own" different aspects of an IP at the same time).
Even without DRM, you fundamentally can't "own" copyrighted content in the same way as physical property. See above.mokes310 said:
If you buy a CD, you can't start playing it as BGM in your bar. If you buy a movie DVD, you can't put it into your private TV channel's DVD player and start broadcasting it like any of your other DVDs. If you buy a chair, you can make replicas of it, but you can't always replicate copyrighted data on a disc that you buy.
When you buy a CD, you can't possibly "own" the concept of the data that is written it, because obviously, it's still the seller's IP. You can possibly get a license that PARTIALLY tries to imitate physical property by granting infinite access, or you may only get stricter licenses, or more liberal ones that also allow for copying (like Creative Commons), but as soon as you bring the analogy as far as claiming that you truly "own" the IP in te same way as physical property, it will eventually fall apart.
Well it's probably because if they sat properly in it the epoxy in the joints would weaken and collapse.CJ1145 said:
...You know like their argument.
I like what they are trying to do but media is not a chair. A more reasonable comparison is the chair exploding after being put in storage 8 times. I am not crazy about drm either but I don't see the analogy.
I think the video would have been much better if it was an arty short film about how every time we use a thing we slowly destroy it. Bang in a black haired woman smoking in a negligee, guzzling wine and a black and white filter and call it "l'morte du chaise" or something.
This can only be a success if big companies with a big hardon for DRM would watch this and realize that DRM is a stupid idea. Except they've got bank notes stuffed in their ears and eyesockets, so they're not going to bother taking this seriously.
Let's not give up, gentlemen.
Let's not give up, gentlemen.
What's wrong with their pants? Are they also riddled with DRM and will get smaller every time they wear them?
Some products are already built to break. In that sense DRM becomes the lesser of two evils, because at least most games (Activation-limit DRM can burn in silicon hell) don't inevitably cease to function after so long.
Now pray to God nobody tells Ikea. Just imagine:
"...in a recent press announcement from Ikea, the Swedish firm had confirmed that it is partnering with EA to create a new line of computer-connected desk and chairs. The new line of product is not only 200% cheaper than current product lines, but also automatically collapses if you don't keep the furniture online and purchase a copy of FIFA and/or Simcity every year. It will also collapse every 3 year anyway if you don't renew the license..."
"...in a recent press announcement from Ikea, the Swedish firm had confirmed that it is partnering with EA to create a new line of computer-connected desk and chairs. The new line of product is not only 200% cheaper than current product lines, but also automatically collapses if you don't keep the furniture online and purchase a copy of FIFA and/or Simcity every year. It will also collapse every 3 year anyway if you don't renew the license..."
If I was doing a DRM chair, I'd link the joints of the chair up to a net connection connected to a server. I'd have about 100 chairs in the room, 100 people sitting down. Then I'd put the server under high stress and the minute a chair loses connection to the server, the joints pull back, causing the legs to fold out and collapse. Soon as the connection is regained, the joints lock again.
Then simply record the footage.
Then simply record the footage.
Which is what will happen with any game with always online DRM.Vault101 said:
Give it a few years and they'll just switch the servers off because "it's not profitable to keep them running", probably right when sequel comes out.
