Characters In Mass Effect 2

[Loop Stricken]

We know nothing about the characters outside of a 1 minute trailer each thus far and the original cast interesting? Im sorry I played MAss Effect over 4 times by now, several of the recorded lines are identical irregardless of what ally you bring merley done by a different voice. The allies were interesting enough if not abit flat why did Wrex choose ot stay after killing fist some clarification would be nice, how about more conversation outside of the 8 hour main quest which for an rpg was appauling.

Not entirely sure what you're saying here, but Wrex is a mercenary; with his contract to kill Fist over with, he's just sticking wit...

...hang on, he tells you why he's staying with you if you talk to him. Might I suggest a fifth playthrough?

 

[Lyri]

I didn't like Mass Effect much (Albeit just bought it for my Laptop off Steam since my Xbox is broke) and i'm trying to get into it before two comes out.
Yet, tbh I really can't stand the look of this new bunch, frankly walking about with a bunch of what can only be described as "Xbox live" users makes me cry.

 

[Nmil-ek]

We know nothing about the characters outside of a 1 minute trailer each thus far and the original cast interesting? Im sorry I played MAss Effect over 4 times by now, several of the recorded lines are identical irregardless of what ally you bring merley done by a different voice. The allies were interesting enough if not abit flat why did Wrex choose ot stay after killing fist some clarification would be nice, how about more conversation outside of the 8 hour main quest which for an rpg was appauling.

Not entirely sure what you're saying here, but Wrex is a mercenary; with his contract to kill Fist over with, he's just sticking wit...

...hang on, he tells you why he's staying with you if you talk to him. Might I suggest a fifth playthrough?

Sure on the bloody ship, you agree to go and hunt down fist together thats it! Then all of a sudden the freeloader decides he can stay on my ship no hey shep I'll be posing by the lockers if you need me no nothing.

 

[Souplex]

What I really want is to get some Elcor, Volus and Hannar in the party.

Yes, a Hanar party member would be awesome. Then you could solve your problems with diplomacy! And if that doesn't work, I'm sure a Hanar can hold about six pistols.

Even better would be the Elcor dialogue. "Annoyed: Stop shooting at me." "Aggressively: Let us kill these sons of bitches."

 

[Paragon Fury]

Let's go kick me some ME2 speculatory buttocks!

So we've got Samara, Miranda, Subject Zero, Jakobs, Thane, Grunt and Tali. That leaves 2 left to find out, and sofar we only have Tali from the original cast.

Garrus (aka Archangel) and Legion (aka the geth).

Bioware have basiclly fucked themselves over here. As in ME1 they claimed that the romances would be 'part of a greater story' and wern't just a 'cheap marketing technique' and then decide to not put the romance people into the party??? Whaaaa???

Hopefully they are just keeping a really close scret and the original cast will still have a large part. I want Joker and Ashley back!

The ME1 Love Interests will feature in the game but be unrecruitable; see, any of your squad members can die and Bioware want to keep the LIs alive until Mass Effect 3, which they couldn't do if you'd got them recruited and killed.
And let's face it, a suicide mission isn't something you're going to recruit your love interests into.

Bioware need to stop with all the characters and dialogue trees and work on the gameplay more.
They give me a galaxy to explore but I can't jump? Fuck off.

This fellow should be renamed "imatroll4062".

If Liara isn't in the game at some point, I will be pissed off at no end. Not only are full biotics overpowered, she is a hot blue alien.

She is; she works for the Shadow Broker now.

They've replaced the interesting, varied cast from the first game with a copy-pasted psychopath one about 6 times, then added a couple throwaway characters and kept 2 of the old ones.

They're forcing players to work with the organization many of them swore to destroy in the first one, without even giving us a choice as to what to do about it.

They keep going about how this game is going to be so great, but yet they've offered nothing to convince to give up the $60 or $70 for it.

1) Repentant assassin? Sentient artificial life-form obsessed with your main character? 'Space Sheriff' blue woman with crazy psychic powers?
Krogan in general are badass, and Tali's ass is far from bad.

2) There's a good reason for that which you may or may not know:

Spoiler

They resurrect you

3) I don't think you've been following the right game. They've fixed the inventory and squad control systems; you can upgrade your ships, weapons, armour; you have a goddamn fish tank.

1: Repentant? Hired is more like it. Legion isn't the confirmed Geth party member - he's hunting you, after all. Samara isn't a "Space Sheriff" - she is just nuts, and happens to find your particular brand of crazy not offensive enough to kill.

Wrex is the best Krogan...no, the best space badass ever. A million Grunts glued togther wouldn't even come close.

And yes, we all know its Bayonetta inside that suit, so we can just let that go now.

2: I'm pretty sure both all 5 of my Shepards would've picked death over letting Cerberus resurrect them. Even then, I'm pretty sure the first thing on their "To-Do" list would involve opening a can of murder and pissed off tech/biotic rage on every piece of Cerberus anything in site, particularly the Illusive Man and his walking exercise in futility, Miranda.

3: The gameplayin ME is just a sideshow, used to convey the story and the characters. What they've done in ME2 is basically the equivalent of killing Han, Chewie, Princess Lela, the R2-D2 and replacing them with cardboard cutouts, and then telling us that Luke is now working for the Emperor for a poorly explained and shoehorned reason that has no true purpose other than letting them make the game "darker" for whatever reason they had in mind.


Not to mention its basically a big "FUCK YOU" to all the work you did in ME1. Only Tali and Garrus count, and $20 says that most of your other decisions will at most get a cute little plot surmise or cutscene and then be done with.

 

[Loop Stricken]

We know nothing about the characters outside of a 1 minute trailer each thus far and the original cast interesting? Im sorry I played MAss Effect over 4 times by now, several of the recorded lines are identical irregardless of what ally you bring merley done by a different voice. The allies were interesting enough if not abit flat why did Wrex choose ot stay after killing fist some clarification would be nice, how about more conversation outside of the 8 hour main quest which for an rpg was appauling.

Not entirely sure what you're saying here, but Wrex is a mercenary; with his contract to kill Fist over with, he's just sticking wit...

...hang on, he tells you why he's staying with you if you talk to him. Might I suggest a fifth playthrough?

Sure on the bloody ship, you agree to go and hunt down fist together thats it! Then all of a sudden the freeloader decides he can stay on my ship no hey shep I'll be posing by the lockers if you need me no nothing.

That's as well as may be but are you really going to say no to a krogan?

[Edit: actually on the ship he talks about how he met Saren once and didn't like him, and he mwntions, at some point, about how when you get older you learn the best fights come to you, and Shepard is going to take him to all the best ones.]

 

[Lyri]

Even better would be the Elcor dialogue. "Annoyed: Stop shooting at me." "Aggressively: Let us kill these sons of bitches."

No matter how it's dressed up or who says it, it's still HK-47.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

Let's go kick me some ME2 speculatory buttocks!

So we've got Samara, Miranda, Subject Zero, Jakobs, Thane, Grunt and Tali. That leaves 2 left to find out, and sofar we only have Tali from the original cast.

Garrus (aka Archangel) and Legion (aka the geth).

Bioware have basiclly fucked themselves over here. As in ME1 they claimed that the romances would be 'part of a greater story' and wern't just a 'cheap marketing technique' and then decide to not put the romance people into the party??? Whaaaa???

Hopefully they are just keeping a really close scret and the original cast will still have a large part. I want Joker and Ashley back!

The ME1 Love Interests will feature in the game but be unrecruitable; see, any of your squad members can die and Bioware want to keep the LIs alive until Mass Effect 3, which they couldn't do if you'd got them recruited and killed.
And let's face it, a suicide mission isn't something you're going to recruit your love interests into.

Bioware need to stop with all the characters and dialogue trees and work on the gameplay more.
They give me a galaxy to explore but I can't jump? Fuck off.

This fellow should be renamed "imatroll4062".

If Liara isn't in the game at some point, I will be pissed off at no end. Not only are full biotics overpowered, she is a hot blue alien.

She is; she works for the Shadow Broker now.

They've replaced the interesting, varied cast from the first game with a copy-pasted psychopath one about 6 times, then added a couple throwaway characters and kept 2 of the old ones.

They're forcing players to work with the organization many of them swore to destroy in the first one, without even giving us a choice as to what to do about it.

They keep going about how this game is going to be so great, but yet they've offered nothing to convince to give up the $60 or $70 for it.

1) Repentant assassin? Sentient artificial life-form obsessed with your main character? 'Space Sheriff' blue woman with crazy psychic powers?
Krogan in general are badass, and Tali's ass is far from bad.

2) There's a good reason for that which you may or may not know:

Spoiler

They resurrect you

3) I don't think you've been following the right game. They've fixed the inventory and squad control systems; you can upgrade your ships, weapons, armour; you have a goddamn fish tank.

Thank you for bringing me this news.


I AM SO HAPPY

 

[lacktheknack]

Bioware need to stop with all the characters and dialogue trees and work on the gameplay more.
They give me a galaxy to explore but I can't jump? Fuck off.

Say that all you want, but considering that this is not a platformer in any way, but a very story-driven RPG/TPS, jumping was completely not required, and thus not added.

Pretty sad if you trash a game because you can't do an unnecessary action that not many people even think about. Consider a different game series.

 

[Loop Stricken]

1: Repentant? Hired is more like it. Legion isn't the confirmed Geth party member - he's hunting you, after all. Samara isn't a "Space Sheriff" - she is just nuts, and happens to find your particular brand of crazy not offensive enough to kill.

Wrex is the best Krogan...no, the best space badass ever. A million Grunts glued togther wouldn't even come close.

And yes, we all know its Bayonetta inside that suit, so we can just let that go now.

2: I'm pretty sure both all 5 of my Shepards would've picked death over letting Cerberus resurrect them. Even then, I'm pretty sure the first thing on their "To-Do" list would involve opening a can of murder and pissed off tech/biotic rage on every piece of Cerberus anything in site, particularly the Illusive Man and his walking exercise in futility, Miranda.

3: The gameplayin ME is just a sideshow, used to convey the story and the characters. What they've done in ME2 is basically the equivalent of killing Han, Chewie, Princess Lela, the R2-D2 and replacing them with cardboard cutouts, and then telling us that Luke is now working for the Emperor for a poorly explained and shoehorned reason that has no true purpose other than letting them make the game "darker" for whatever reason they had in mind.


Not to mention its basically a big "FUCK YOU" to all the work you did in ME1. Only Tali and Garrus count, and $20 says that most of your other decisions will at most get a cute little plot surmise or cutscene and then be done with.

1)

A deadly assassin born of the Drell race, Thane is a warrior-monk. He is stoic, collected, and very spiritual. He ardently believes in his religious path and its accompanying rites and prayers. From Thane's perspective, his body is the weapon wielded by his employers, however he does not believe in killing indiscriminately. Once his services were up to the highest bidder, but something happened; something changed him. Now he has shifted his professional philosophy; he no longer takes contracts for pay, but rather he chooses his targets based on his moral and religious beliefs.

While Thane is lethal with any firearm, he is also a powerful biotic who is able to manipulate foes at will. If Commander Shepard can convince Thane to join his mission, he will have one of the galaxy's most dangerous assassins at his side.

I couldn't think of how to describe Samara to be honest, she just seems to wander about killing people she thinks are... somethingorother. Okay, I don't like her either.
And sure Grunt's not as badass as Wrex, but Grunt's like 20 years old, he's not had time to be badass.
I didn't follow the Bayonetta quip.

2) Sadly you don't get much in the way of a choice and I'm sure there will be a tree for your grudging refusal to work with the pro-human group to save all those human colonies. You human, you.

3) So rehauling the combat, the segues between story chunks, to be more entertaining, is a bad thing?
And nobody yet knows how any of these choices pan out, other than Conrad Verner, if you didn't scare him into suicide, becomes a Commander. Apparently.

Thank you for bringing me this news.


I AM SO HAPPY

Appreciably, you are welcome.

 

[Avatar Roku]

We know nothing about the characters outside of a 1 minute trailer each thus far and the original cast interesting? Im sorry I played MAss Effect over 4 times by now, several of the recorded lines are identical irregardless of what ally you bring merley done by a different voice. The allies were interesting enough if not abit flat why did Wrex choose ot stay after killing fist some clarification would be nice, how about more conversation outside of the 8 hour main quest which for an rpg was appauling.

Not entirely sure what you're saying here, but Wrex is a mercenary; with his contract to kill Fist over with, he's just sticking wit...

...hang on, he tells you why he's staying with you if you talk to him. Might I suggest a fifth playthrough?

Sure on the bloody ship, you agree to go and hunt down fist together thats it! Then all of a sudden the freeloader decides he can stay on my ship no hey shep I'll be posing by the lockers if you need me no nothing.

He had two contracts when you find him: Hunt down Fist (because he betrayed the Shadow Broker) and hunt down Saren (because he also betrayed the Shadow Broker). He figures Shep is his best chance to get both of those done.

Let's go kick me some ME2 speculatory buttocks!

So we've got Samara, Miranda, Subject Zero, Jakobs, Thane, Grunt and Tali. That leaves 2 left to find out, and sofar we only have Tali from the original cast.

Garrus (aka Archangel) and Legion (aka the geth).

Bioware have basiclly fucked themselves over here. As in ME1 they claimed that the romances would be 'part of a greater story' and wern't just a 'cheap marketing technique' and then decide to not put the romance people into the party??? Whaaaa???

Hopefully they are just keeping a really close scret and the original cast will still have a large part. I want Joker and Ashley back!

The ME1 Love Interests will feature in the game but be unrecruitable; see, any of your squad members can die and Bioware want to keep the LIs alive until Mass Effect 3, which they couldn't do if you'd got them recruited and killed.
And let's face it, a suicide mission isn't something you're going to recruit your love interests into.

Bioware need to stop with all the characters and dialogue trees and work on the gameplay more.
They give me a galaxy to explore but I can't jump? Fuck off.

This fellow should be renamed "imatroll4062".

If Liara isn't in the game at some point, I will be pissed off at no end. Not only are full biotics overpowered, she is a hot blue alien.

She is; she works for the Shadow Broker now.

They've replaced the interesting, varied cast from the first game with a copy-pasted psychopath one about 6 times, then added a couple throwaway characters and kept 2 of the old ones.

They're forcing players to work with the organization many of them swore to destroy in the first one, without even giving us a choice as to what to do about it.

They keep going about how this game is going to be so great, but yet they've offered nothing to convince to give up the $60 or $70 for it.

1) Repentant assassin? Sentient artificial life-form obsessed with your main character? 'Space Sheriff' blue woman with crazy psychic powers?
Krogan in general are badass, and Tali's ass is far from bad.

2) There's a good reason for that which you may or may not know:

Spoiler

They resurrect you

3) I don't think you've been following the right game. They've fixed the inventory and squad control systems; you can upgrade your ships, weapons, armour; you have a goddamn fish tank.

1: Repentant? Hired is more like it. Legion isn't the confirmed Geth party member - he's hunting you, after all. Samara isn't a "Space Sheriff" - she is just nuts, and happens to find your particular brand of crazy not offensive enough to kill.

Wrex is the best Krogan...no, the best space badass ever. A million Grunts glued togther wouldn't even come close.

And yes, we all know its Bayonetta inside that suit, so we can just let that go now.

2: I'm pretty sure both all 5 of my Shepards would've picked death over letting Cerberus resurrect them. Even then, I'm pretty sure the first thing on their "To-Do" list would involve opening a can of murder and pissed off tech/biotic rage on every piece of Cerberus anything in site, particularly the Illusive Man and his walking exercise in futility, Miranda.

3: The gameplayin ME is just a sideshow, used to convey the story and the characters. What they've done in ME2 is basically the equivalent of killing Han, Chewie, Princess Lela, the R2-D2 and replacing them with cardboard cutouts, and then telling us that Luke is now working for the Emperor for a poorly explained and shoehorned reason that has no true purpose other than letting them make the game "darker" for whatever reason they had in mind.


Not to mention its basically a big "FUCK YOU" to all the work you did in ME1. Only Tali and Garrus count, and $20 says that most of your other decisions will at most get a cute little plot surmise or cutscene and then be done with.

How do you know anything about this yet? How do you know Wrex is so much more badass than Grunt if all you've seen of Grunt is a minute long cutscene? How do you know Thane's motives? How do you know Shep doesn't have good reason not to kill Cerberus? How do you know you can't kill Cerberus, for that matter (i.e, helping them could just be one path, although I doubt they're getting that brached)? How do you know any of this from some short trailers? Honestly, you sound like you're just a fanboy who's afraid of change, and this is coming from a massive ME fanboy.

 

[Loop Stricken]

How do you know anything about this yet? How do you know Wrex is so much more badass than Grunt if all you've seen of Grunt is a minute long cutscene? How do you know Thane's motives? How do you know Shep doesn't have good reason not to kill Cerberus? How do you know you can't kill Cerberus, for that matter (i.e, helping them could just be one path, although I doubt they're getting that brached)? How do you know any of this from some short trailers? Honestly, you sound like you're just a fanboy who's afraid of change, and this is coming from a massive ME fanboy.

Oh thank Christ, I thought you were quoting me then. I'm an unrepentant ME fanboy.

 

[soren7550]

Let's go kick me some ME2 speculatory buttocks!

*snip*

Wow, beat me to it. (didn't really think I'd see someone else here who went that deep into the game like myself.)

He had two contracts when you find him: Hunt down Fist (because he betrayed the Shadow Broker) and hunt down Saren (because he also betrayed the Shadow Broker). He figures Shep is his best chance to get both of those done.

Wrex was never hired to kill Saren. He simply worked for him one and left after he saw him because he had a bad feeling about him (which proved to be right.) Wrex stays with you (regardless if Fist is killed or not.) because he wants to be where the action is, and he knows that you're going after Saren.

How do you know anything about this yet? How do you know Wrex is so much more badass than Grunt if all you've seen of Grunt is a minute long cutscene? How do you know Thane's motives? How do you know Shep doesn't have good reason not to kill Cerberus? How do you know you can't kill Cerberus, for that matter (i.e, helping them could just be one path, although I doubt they're getting that brached)? How do you know any of this from some short trailers? Honestly, you sound like you're just a fanboy who's afraid of change, and this is coming from a massive ME fanboy.

I admit, first seeing Grunt I thought that there was no way that he could be better than Wrex, but the most recently released trailer shows Grunt blowing the head off of a fucking thresher maw, right before the damn thing eats him. That bit didn't last that long, but that cements Grunt as being pretty damn bad-ass.
And what I know for why Shep joins Cerberus,

Spoiler

very early in the game when the Normandy is attacked (or roughly when the game starts.), Cerberus saves you and Joker. But your injuries are extensive enough where you're placed in a coma for two years while you're 'reconstructed'.(thus why so many people think you're dead, including your former squadmates.) The Illusive Man tells you that there's a new threat out there that's appeared since you were last up (the Collectors abducting human colonies), and you reluctantly agree to join up to help them in order to irradiate the new threat as well as the previous one.

 

[Loop Stricken]

As for Grunt, there's also this video [http://masseffect.bioware.com/media/].
[Edit: Direct link doesn't work, but on the new link it's obviously the video with the Grunt picture, titled 'Savage'.]

Is it just me or does he sound like the Tauren from World of Warcraft?

 

[Kollega]

Yes, i'm with OP on that one. I'm not against having new characters, but why - for the sake of all gods and everything that is holy, WHY?! - they all have to be either psychopaths, douchebags, or both? I know that it's suicide mission and blah blah blah, but seriously! Why can't we bring some nice people along?! And why in the hell should we collaborate with Waffen SS Cerberus?!

What I really want is to get some Elcor, Volus and Hannar in the party.

Oh-so-very-much this. Instead of killing people we could buy out all their gear, convert them to Hanar religion, or bore them to death! This actually would be better than just murdering everyone.

Bioware need to stop with all the characters and dialogue trees and work on the gameplay more.
They give me a galaxy to explore but I can't jump? Fuck off.

If you'd like to explore the galaxy and be able to jump at the same time, there's always Ratchet & Clank. Ba-dum-tish.

 

[Paragon Fury]

*Words*

1.]Bayonetta's Ass [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/bayonetta_butt.jpg]

Also, I generally like to insure my parties members aren't batshit insane. Wrex bordered that line, but made up with sheer awesome. These new people - I'd be afraid to go to the bathroom if they were on my ship.

2. I'm pretty sure seeing the entire galaxy wiped clean by the Reapers would be a better fate than furthering the goals of Cerberus and the Illusive Man. And remember - You can't unshake the devil's hand.

3: All that work I put into the combat is worthless too, since my character and team get wiped out.

 

[Jenova65]

I am still really looking forward to this game, and will reserve judgement on the new party members til I actually experience them in the game.

 

[Souplex]

I really want to bring Joker out on missions.

 

[ShotgunSmoke]

Riiight, Wrex wasn't a psychopath. Not one bit.


I love the new team. They're all badass, no whiny, pathetic Liaras this time. They are the kind of people I personally would bring along in a fight.

And relax, your romantic interests will be in the game. Bioware has stated this a billion times.

I really want to bring Joker out on missions.

I'm afraid that isn't possible...well, unless you like the sound of crunching bones.

 

[Avatar Roku]

He had two contracts when you find him: Hunt down Fist (because he betrayed the Shadow Broker) and hunt down Saren (because he also betrayed the Shadow Broker). He figures Shep is his best chance to get both of those done.

Wrex was never hired to kill Saren. He simply worked for him one and left after he saw him because he had a bad feeling about him (which proved to be right.) Wrex stays with you (regardless if Fist is killed or not.) because he wants to be where the action is, and he knows that you're going after Saren.

No, I'm pretty sure he was. Talk to him on the Citadel again, when you recruit him (you might have to recruit him before Garrus to get this conversation), he talks about how Saren betrayed the Shadow Broker.