Chauvin Found Guilty of All Charges

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Apologies, but as the story is still breaking fully, the best I can do is a "live updates" article.


So, in the death of George Floyd, Derek Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.

The maximum sentence for the second-degree charge is 40 years, while the third-degree murder charge could get him 25 years, and the manslaughter charge another 10 years or $20,000 fine. In other words, he is facing up to 75 years in prison.

Edit: I've been informed that the powers that be decided against consecutive sentencing (apparently due to legal stuff), so 40 years is his maximum penalty.
 
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Good fucking news for once.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
That's surprising. I can see some counts but all. Interesting.
 

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So, in the death of George Floyd, Derek Chauvin was found guilty of second-degree unintentional murder, third degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter.
I would love to know how a justice system makes sense of convicting a guy on three homicide charges for committing only one homicide.
 

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I don't know if this was televised everywhere else (I'm in Minnesota so for obvious reason this is kind of a big deal) but watching the verdict being read and watching the celebration in the street to it was just super.

It's also indirectly nice because we all know that if they would have let him skate from the charges, this place might have torn itself in half from protesting.

Eight weeks to find out what his exact punishment will be but with all three counts being GUILTY and a lot of the extenuating reasons for why it will be a harsher sentence (cop so a power role, children all over the place that witnessed it, etc), there's a decent chance that Chauvin will never be a free man again...
 

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I would love to know how a justice system makes sense of convicting a guy on three homicide charges for committing only one homicide.
Different burdens of proof/requirements for each count.
 

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I was expecting him to be convicted on manslaughter. Thought the other two were tossups leaning towards guilty on at least one.


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I'm getting more a "sad trombone noises" vibe from that picture
 

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I look forward to Tucker Carlson declaring that he was some "sacrificial lamb on the altar of the left's agenda to destroy america. To appease the savage hordes prepared to riot in the streets."
 

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Different burdens of proof/requirements for each count.
Uh-huh. I guess that kind of makes sense, assuming the strongest invalidates (or renders moot) the weaker two.

In my country, however, the prosecution just pick the strongest that they think they'll get a conviction on.
 

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I am pretty poor at recognising expressions just from the eyes, but that seems to me to be perplexed with a side-order of irritation. Like someone's just found a dead emu on their lawn and they're wondering how the hell it got there and how annoying it's going to be to clear it up.
 

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That's surprising. I can see some counts but all. Interesting.
I was expecting only one of the homicide counts to go through. Mostly because only one homicide occurred, and which one to be found guilty to depend on how the jury interpreted the evidence.

I would love to know how a justice system makes sense of convicting a guy on three homicide charges for committing only one homicide.
This.

It's also indirectly nice because we all know that if they would have let him skate from the charges, this place might have torn itself in half from protesting.
I mean, either he was going to be found guilty, or we were going to have more "peaceful protests" leading to massive property damage and possibly some deaths (likely starting with the defendant). He's probably better off being found guilty.

To appease the savage hordes prepared to riot in the streets."
What do you think would be happening in Minneapolis starting tonight and ongoing for at least a week had he been found not guilty?
 

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Chauvin deserves this verdict b/c he obviously killed Floyd and there is clear evidence of it but I doubt he would have gotten a second degree guilty charge if this wasn't such a media trial. I wonder how many police walked free in exact similar cases. Whatever way the wind blows I guess.
 
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In my country, however, the prosecution just pick the strongest that they think they'll get a conviction on.
That seems worse, actually; if they get off the stronger charge, but would've been found guilty on a lesser charge, then the defendant gets off even if the jury believes beyond reasonable doubt that they did it.