Child Must Have Thought a Gun Was a Wii Remote, Mother Says

[MGlBlaze]

What Arbitrary Silliness.

Parents, always looking for something else to blame besides they're own failings.

They suck as a parent, therefore their daughter got killed. Natural Selection was not on her side.

Yet... the world keeps spinning.

Not even as a parent. They suck as human beings, and they suck at BASIC INTELLIGENCE.

The parents was careless with the gun, and the kid who didn't know any better and never got the chance to learn was the one that payed for the idiocy and mistakes.

 

[MR.Spartacus]

Source: Fox News via Destructoid

AHEM.

Read the link. Fox ITSELF isn't making these outrageous claims. Just the dumbass mother.

I was just pondering how interesting is that Fox is the one that runs with the story. I was also pondering how much truth is in the quote (as in how much of it was actually said/believed by the person who said it).

Well you have to expect that she's more than a little upset. I mean she's just unwilling to blame the father and his piss-poor behavior with guns. You always lock up a fire arm when not in use there are no excuses. Hell it should also not be kept loaded when not "in use".

 

[SextusMaximus]

Aha! the old 'sorry, I thought your balls were X' - excuse hey? This is an utterly ridiculous statement from the mother, she probably blames her son's idiocy on Aspergers or something as well...

 

[Herb sewell]

Mother of god. Guns and videogames have joined forces to kill us off once and for all. The rabble rousers may just be our only hope.

Here's another way for you to say that:

"Help us, Rabble Rousers. You're our only hope."

Just cleaning this R2 unit theirs something stuck in their real good. We should picket the white house.

 

[Iron Mal]

As Aslan once said, child, no one can ever know what WOULD have happened.

That is important here because when a gun is used in self-defense, I'm going to go ahead here and state that a good death has occurred. When a gun is used in crime or by accident, a bad death has occurred. When a gun is used in suicide (there are three times more firearm suicides than homicides each year in the US), well, the jury's out. I'm sure it seemed a good idea to the person at the time.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one but I find something vaguely disturbing about the idea of a 'good death' (the way I see it, all deaths are bad and it is slightly psychotic or delusional to try and imply otherwise). The sole purpose and function of a gun is to harm and kill people, there is nothing even remotely positive about that (you can cite 'self defense' all you want but then we should remember that you've still killed someone, you're just as bad as your 'attacker' even though you may not have intended it).

What we can't know is if we had taken all the guns from law-abiding citizens and yes, some but not all of the guns from criminals, how many more bad deaths would have occurred because of those good deaths not happening. Until we can know that I'm not willing to state it isn't a very worthwhile trade-off. Yeah. I went there. The occasional accidental death of a child might just be worth the safety gun ownership brings.

The notion that 'unless you have citizens gunning for criminals you'll just be letting them take over' seems like a paranoid nightmare to me, the few victories that legal gun owners score against armed criminals and gang members are probably of little concern to the criminals (otherwise there wouldn't be any crime due to fear of being shot by the owner of the house you just broke into). I once heard it said, 'Notice how we [America] have more guns and more murders per year while they [England] don't and...don't, kinda hard to shoot someone with a gun you don't have'.

The occasional screaming fiery death of a planeload of people is worth the convenience of air travel. We decided that a long time ago and few people even question it. Yet isn't it horrific that children end up scattered across a hillside once in a while just so people can cross the country a little faster? How can that be justified? You people who are willing to trade the lives of innocents for your flight fetish are just horrible, really. Sane people should intervene in your culture for you and stop you.

That is a somewhat irrelevant comparision since planes actually have a purpose besides the destcruction of living things, deaths that result from accidents with aircraft genuinely are tragic accidents (you don't get expect that the plane you're boarding to be the thing that kills you) while deaths caused by firearms are just the natural result of their use (you can't honestly say that you wouldn't suspect that someone walking down the street with a rifle is up to no good), trying to say that 'well, other stuff kills people too but we don't think to get rid of them' is an extremely flimsy excuse to hide bad logic behind.

 

[GHMonkey]

Okay I'm going to act like a bastard here, I feel sorry for the family, but honestly as a rare duck, a gun owner from childhood, and a gamer, I'm going to be blunt.

Fucking Idiots. That's it. They Are FUCKING IDIOTS. The Parents are FUCKING MORONS! Here is the rules of gun safety I learnt as a 5 year old.

1) Treat Every Firearm as if loaded, even when proven otherwise (that means don't point it at shit you moron)
2) Only aim at something you intend to shoot
3) When not using the firearm secure it safely in a locked gun cabinet of some kind, separate from the ammunition. YOU NEVER LEAVE THEM LOADED.

It's fucking simple, those are the core rules of gun safety, anyone who doesn't follow them in their own home is a fucking moron, I'm not blaming the kid, I'm blaming the stupid parents, you don't leave guns laying around you moronic twits, ever, you don't leave them loaded, ever, you don't let little kids touch them EVER.

The man should be locked away for life. fucking twit.

THANK YOU! IM NOT ALONE!!

How many more vulnerable people will have to die before gun controls will be tightened or even completely revoked? Speaking as a Brit, I just don't understand why this has been allowed to go on for so long. Blame may not lie with the parents, regardless of all the speculation on this thread, but with a government and a society that is too attatched to an old and outdated ideal about personal defence. Until more people in America wake up to why this problem exists, there will continue to be horrific and tragic accidents like this every day.

well since we are on the topic of generalizations. lets ban soccer while were at it since it seem that everytime there is a soccer match it britan there seems to be a riot.

Fine. It was a generalisation. But, whereas the problems behind rioting in football stadiums has been partially solved (tackling the social problems behind hooliganism, modification of policing policies, etc.), the gun problem in America has stagnated. Roughly 12000 people every year in America are killed by people with privately owned guns, working out to a little over 30 people every day. Hmm. Maybe I'm not generalising.

And really, where do you expect these people to be killed? Yes, some will be in tough inner-city districts, and yes, some will be isolated incidents with obscure details. But some will always happen in quiet little suburban neighbourhoods with tragic outcomes such as this. But what the fuck do I know? Very little evidently, but if you believe that it is a worthwhile trade-off to lose thousands of lives every year in return for the unrestricted right to own and carry a 9-millimetre semiautomatic handgun or an assault rifle, then I pity you and your backwards culture and train of thought. Oh, and tkioz, I hear that if you repeat your advice enough, then it will bring back the victims.

you are apparently unfamiliar with concealed carry laws as well purchasing laws of handguns. you cannot purchase pistols like your buying cookies. a 3 day waiting period is mandatory as well as local police and FBI background checks. not only that but you also have to register said firearms into ATF and HLS databases to be logged. your claim that thousands of lives lost to these firearms, did you take into account how many of those were illegal and smuggled. please also note the fully automatic weapons are extremely difficult to obtain, requiring permits that need to be updated yearly as well as more intensive background check required for hand guns.

hey, i also here if you get into more people faces and say shit to people like that last line, it makes you seem like less intolerant.

now i do respect your opinion in this matter as it is delicate, at least it was well put.

 

[VoidEternal]

What Arbitrary Silliness.

Parents, always looking for something else to blame besides they're own failings.

They suck as a parent, therefore their daughter got killed. Natural Selection was not on her side.

Yet... the world keeps spinning.

Not even as a parent. They suck as human beings, and they suck at BASIC INTELLIGENCE.

The parents was careless with the gun, and the kid who didn't know any better and never got the chance to learn was the one that payed for the idiocy and mistakes.

Just goes to show the timeless argument. "Blame the parents, not the video games"

After all, who buys video game discs, accessories, consoles, paraphernalia, etc. The parents? Oh boy. It's a shame people nowadays don't realize that if they wanna pork each other day in and day out and have a kid, that THEY are now legally responsible for all of that beings actions until they turn 18. I find it strange that my society, knowing this, still tries to make excuses for it's failed attempt at honest, adult reasoning skills.

If this goes to show anything, it's that we as a race, need to stop fucking, or at the very least, be way more careful. It'll free up jobs, help the economy, get welfare and all that bullshit trimmed up, and we won't have to deal with the stupidity of the ignorant masses who just wanna have sex with no consequences.

It's quite sad when you're walking down the street, minding your own business, enjoying life; When some 16 year old ghetto punk stabs you to death to steal your cash because their parents don't have the foresight, knowledge, or just common fucking sense to not wear a rubber if they can't support themselves, much less a helpless infant that they bring into the world.

What're we going to do if this shit keeps happening, and everyone's content to just sit around and agree with the dipshit parents who let this kind inane shifting of responsibility fall out of the lap of the people who bring the children into the world, into some 3rd party to make products not designed for anyone but the people who know how to use them, and can differentiate between real life, and fantasy?

It's these realizations that hit me as I'm sitting around, playing video games and smoking like a chimney that makes me sad to call myself a human being. Or at least disappointed that I have to associate myself as such to the mindless hive that is the populous at large.

Here we are, failing as a civilization, everything's gone to pot, with concerns over controlling the environment that's been here billions of years before our little bipedal retard strong society reared it's ugly head, bringing an end to whatever this week's crusade is about (AIDs, World Hunger, War, ass-hatery) and people are still willing to take up arms against a growing entertainment, and art form rather than fix their own government, help out around the neighborhood, or give some sort of selfless sacrifice to help out things that they just sit comfortably in their recliners and mindlessly agree with the man in the suite in front of a flag talking about reform...

Anyway... I forgot where I was going with this. So I'm done now.

 

[VoidEternal]

wtf does natural selection have to do with anything? your a moron

Sorry for the double post. But, I think you need to read up more on philosophy rather than ask blatant questions like that. You're on the internet, find out for yourself

 

[xxnightlawxx]

You all have it wrong. Well except people who said that it's the parents fault. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. I mean really a gun? You have a kid grow up. I really hope the parents get what they deserve and well here's my second offense so that means suspension but, "Fox News" None of their shit is real all bought out by "Monsanto"
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[WaterlessSnake]

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[WaterlessSnake]

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[WaterlessSnake]

Nobody is buying this moms story(if you can call her that). She probably is going to try to sue Nintendo so she will have enough crack or meth to last a life time. And I'm sure she will have more children who she fails to watch and neglect and some of them will survive and go on to act out their perverse fantasies and post disgusting, hateful, racist things on the internet because they are cowards and morons.

 

[WaterlessSnake]

sigh

 

[VoidEternal]

These insane little jerks who think they are intellectual by posting comments about how the little girl deserved it because Darwinism are right up there on the scum bag list with the parents. Seriously, you are pathetic and you sound like a bunch of retarded nazi's who are angry because you don't have girlfriends. You sound just as stupid as the parents who either murdered their kid on purpose or murdered her through neglect. There is nothing funny about this, maybe people will laugh at the expense of your death. This is a real little girl who is in the ground. All the apathy and sick jokes really make me lose hope in the human race. The parents should be shot in public and you people who are making jokes should have to watch it and maybe go to the little girls viewing and see if it is still funny when it is in your face. Stupid little jackass's, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

For all your words and "Big talk" about how you must be somehow better than everyone else, just because they don't care, you're just showing yourself off for who you really are. Overly sympathetic, and trying to meddle in the ways of the world.

First off, you can't really talk to me about death. I was in the military, so I had many close up encounters with the true brutality of man, and what we as a species are capable of. Secondly, I don't really care what you think. If I die, sure, my family will probably be sad. But yes, the world will keep on spinning. Same thing if YOU die too.

No one's death is going to kill the human race, solve problems, or create some kind of epiphany that would shake the foundations of our society. It's too late for that noise. This one little girl's death, means absolutely -nothing- in the end. Make a joke of it, laugh at it, cry over it. In one month, no one will care. Because what's the point? She's dead. Obviously life was not on her side of things, and she paid the price because of her shithead parents. The people who look after her, and are supposed to protect her.

Now they have to live with their failure, and nothing I, nor anyone on this forum, say will make a damn difference in the end. We give out our opinions, discuss it, have a little fun here and there, and move on.

Why should we deprive ourselves of anything just because YOU think it's wrong. And you compared us to Nazi's? Are you mentally challenged? How are we in anyway, shape, or form like people who were trying to kill off an entire race and culture of people. Last I checked, no one on this forum was posting a discussion about how we should go about eliminating the blacks.

So take your bullshit, and your "high-road" to a church, or to some equally inane place where things like "good and evil" are black and white. Where everyone must be and think a like. Where every death is tragic.

You can't compare me, or anyone else on this thread to anything "scum bag" like. We have personal opinions, and thoughts. Sorry we are some mind controlled hive mind like you.

 

[Amarok]

Aha! the old 'sorry, I thought your balls were X' - excuse hey? This is an utterly ridiculous statement from the mother, she probably blames her son's idiocy on Aspergers or something as well...

Which would be a bit of a strange argument because Aspies aren't stupid or idiots.

 

[PhantomCritic]

Guns dont kill people, people kill people with smaller guns. :3 (cookie for reference)
OT: If the mother is honestly claiming that she didn't see her child hold the damn gun, I believe she is mentally-handicapped.

Spoiler: In other words...

 

[bluepilot]

em, I believe it has been said a lot already but...

why why why why why would you leave a dangerous weapon within the reach of a young child. Children will touch and play with anything and everything within their own reach.

I doubt that she actually confused it with a wii remote (especially since she shot herself.) If she had confused it with the wii remote she would have been more likely to have shot the TV.

Now some poor young girl is dead, and it could have been easily avoided.

 

[WaterlessSnake]

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[nilus2k]

Was anyone suprised when they saw this happened in Tennessee.

Idiots. If there is a child within 100 yards of your gun it should be unloaded, in a locked case with a trigger lock on it. And the Ammo should be stored in a separate room(also locked).

 

[SextusMaximus]

Aha! the old 'sorry, I thought your balls were X' - excuse hey? This is an utterly ridiculous statement from the mother, she probably blames her son's idiocy on Aspergers or something as well...

Which would be a bit of a strange argument because Aspies aren't stupid or idiots.

My point exactly, I know many intelligent, friendly autistic / aspergers kids who are perfectly pleasent, yet many parents seem to think that a condition such as this would be a reason why their little muffins of love are failing their classes.