Child Must Have Thought a Gun Was a Wii Remote, Mother Says

[Starke]

Why did the stepfather have a loaded gun on the table in the first place? Was the family playing russian roulette?

There actually was a Darwin Award issued to someone for playing Russian roulette with an automatic.

Yeah I heard about that, a bit retarded aye?

Like I said, a Darwin Award Winner.

 

[FROGGEman2]

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You guys are missing the point. It's totally fine to own a gun, but if you do, you have to be careful with it. Like, as in, not leaving it on the bench. The difference between knives, blenders and guns is a mixture of effectiveness and familiarity. A child will be familiar with the dangerous parts of a knife/blender, but (probably) not with a gun. Also, it's a lot harder to accidentally kill yourself with a knife...

...or a blender.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

You guys are missing the point. It's totally fine to own a gun, but if you do, you have to be careful with it. Like, as in, not leaving it on the bench. The difference between knives, blenders and guns is a mixture of effectiveness and familiarity. A child will be familiar with the dangerous parts of a knife/blender, but (probably) not with a gun. Also, it's a lot harder to accidentally kill yourself with a knife...

...or a blender.

Nah, not really. Not leaving a loaded gun out where a child could get at it should be common sense, but unfortunately 'common sense' is about as common as snow in Bermuda.

 

[chiefohara]

Okay I'm going to act like a bastard here, I feel sorry for the family, but honestly as a rare duck, a gun owner from childhood, and a gamer, I'm going to be blunt.

Fucking Idiots. That's it. They Are FUCKING IDIOTS. The Parents are FUCKING MORONS! Here is the rules of gun safety I learnt as a 5 year old.

1) Treat Every Firearm as if loaded, even when proven otherwise (that means don't point it at shit you moron)
2) Only aim at something you intend to shoot
3) When not using the firearm secure it safely in a locked gun cabinet of some kind, separate from the ammunition. YOU NEVER LEAVE THEM LOADED.

It's fucking simple, those are the core rules of gun safety, anyone who doesn't follow them in their own home is a fucking moron, I'm not blaming the kid, I'm blaming the stupid parents, you don't leave guns laying around you moronic twits, ever, you don't leave them loaded, ever, you don't let little kids touch them EVER.

The man should be locked away for life. fucking twit.

THANK YOU! IM NOT ALONE!!

How many more vulnerable people will have to die before gun controls will be tightened or even completely revoked? Speaking as a Brit, I just don't understand why this has been allowed to go on for so long. Blame may not lie with the parents, regardless of all the speculation on this thread, but with a government and a society that is too attatched to an old and outdated ideal about personal defence. Until more people in America wake up to why this problem exists, there will continue to be horrific and tragic accidents like this every day.

well since we are on the topic of generalizations. lets ban soccer while were at it since it seem that everytime there is a soccer match it britan there seems to be a riot.

Fine. It was a generalisation. But, whereas the problems behind rioting in football stadiums has been partially solved (tackling the social problems behind hooliganism, modification of policing policies, etc.), the gun problem in America has stagnated. Roughly 12000 people every year in America are killed by people with privately owned guns, working out to a little over 30 people every day. Hmm. Maybe I'm not generalising.

And really, where do you expect these people to be killed? Yes, some will be in tough inner-city districts, and yes, some will be isolated incidents with obscure details. But some will always happen in quiet little suburban neighbourhoods with tragic outcomes such as this. But what the fuck do I know? Very little evidently, but if you believe that it is a worthwhile trade-off to lose thousands of lives every year in return for the unrestricted right to own and carry a 9-millimetre semiautomatic handgun or an assault rifle, then I pity you and your backwards culture and train of thought. Oh, and tkioz, I hear that if you repeat your advice enough, then it will bring back the victims.

you are apparently unfamiliar with concealed carry laws as well purchasing laws of handguns. you cannot purchase pistols like your buying cookies. a 3 day waiting period is mandatory as well as local police and FBI background checks. not only that but you also have to register said firearms into ATF and HLS databases to be logged. your claim that thousands of lives lost to these firearms, did you take into account how many of those were illegal and smuggled. please also note the fully automatic weapons are extremely difficult to obtain, requiring permits that need to be updated yearly as well as more intensive background check required for hand guns.

hey, i also here if you get into more people faces and say shit to people like that last line, it makes you seem like less intolerant.

now i do respect your opinion in this matter as it is delicate, at least it was well put.

I think you're extrapolating rules of your state as indicative of the whole. I used to be a Tennessean with 10 guns and I never waited a mandatory three days for any of them, nor are any registered. Background checks are instant in many states. The only time I ever failed to walk out of a gun store with the gun I wanted the first day was a time I wanted a different grip and had to wait for the store to order one with the option I wanted. I'm on your side here, but whenever either side of a debate puts forth inaccurate information it just leaves holes for the other side to exploit in future arguments.

And yes, anti-gun people conveniently forget that fully automatic weapons have been severely restricted since 1934. What they call "assault rifles" as we all know are called that based on purely cosmetic features that have no bearing on the machine's function.

Im another European, what i can't understand is why sensible Gun ownerships laws like in thebackupfreaks state aren't copied across the board by every other state in the US like yours in Tennesse? Surely it would be to everyone's benefit if people across the board were checked up on or given at least some rudimentary lessons in gun ownership before walking out of the store with a weapon?

 

[xProvidence]

Persona 3 FES was released to the Wii? I don't know how a 3 year old can lift/use a gun (dependant on the model) cus some of them aren't light (from my experience at my rifle club).

 

[Convictfish]

Surley she couldn't not feel the weight and texture of it. The cold steel against the palm of her hands instead of a plastic coated device...

She was 3.

Three year olds are idiots.

Hence the shooting of oneself.

He was obviously being facetious. Nobody is blaming the three year old. The parents are obviously to blame, and should be shot to death with Wiimotes.

Problem is that the firing squad might mistake their guns for WiiMotes and then those spastic Parents of the Year get to keep on living!

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

[HEADING=1]Gun[/HEADING]

[HEADING=1]Wii Remote in Zapper[/HEADING]

I think that she saw something interesting, had no clue what a gun was, and started playing with it. But not as a Wiimote.

Also, before we get to the usual, and often deserved, Fox News bashing. Click the Fox News link. Fox News ITSELF isn't claiming this. Just the stupid mother.

PPS, to the mother:

If you direct your attention to the other thread, the wii gun really looks like a pistol. And what kind of people take a gun out when they hear noise?! - they dont live in Albania ffs!

I saw the other thread...but we didn't know that when I made that post.

 

[Sneaklemming]

Silly nintedos. Them darn nintendmos.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

If the Second Amendment has to be kept, it'd be nice if a "Stupidity Clause" was inserted, so that people with guns knew how to actually handle them.

Also, even if it had been a Wii Remote, it wouldn't excuse this child of the fact she pointed it at herself.

Sounds like Mother dearest just doesn't want to be the first person tried under my soon-to-be campaigned-for stupidity clause.

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

Okay I'm going to act like a bastard here, I feel sorry for the family, but honestly as a rare duck, a gun owner from childhood, and a gamer, I'm going to be blunt.

Fucking Idiots. That's it. They Are FUCKING IDIOTS. The Parents are FUCKING MORONS! Here is the rules of gun safety I learnt as a 5 year old.

1) Treat Every Firearm as if loaded, even when proven otherwise (that means don't point it at shit you moron)
2) Only aim at something you intend to shoot
3) When not using the firearm secure it safely in a locked gun cabinet of some kind, separate from the ammunition. YOU NEVER LEAVE THEM LOADED.

It's fucking simple, those are the core rules of gun safety, anyone who doesn't follow them in their own home is a fucking moron, I'm not blaming the kid, I'm blaming the stupid parents, you don't leave guns laying around you moronic twits, ever, you don't leave them loaded, ever, you don't let little kids touch them EVER.

The man should be locked away for life. fucking twit.

THANK YOU! IM NOT ALONE!!

How many more vulnerable people will have to die before gun controls will be tightened or even completely revoked? Speaking as a Brit, I just don't understand why this has been allowed to go on for so long. Blame may not lie with the parents, regardless of all the speculation on this thread, but with a government and a society that is too attatched to an old and outdated ideal about personal defence. Until more people in America wake up to why this problem exists, there will continue to be horrific and tragic accidents like this every day.

well since we are on the topic of generalizations. lets ban soccer while were at it since it seem that everytime there is a soccer match it britan there seems to be a riot.

Fine. It was a generalisation. But, whereas the problems behind rioting in football stadiums has been partially solved (tackling the social problems behind hooliganism, modification of policing policies, etc.), the gun problem in America has stagnated. Roughly 12000 people every year in America are killed by people with privately owned guns, working out to a little over 30 people every day. Hmm. Maybe I'm not generalising.

And really, where do you expect these people to be killed? Yes, some will be in tough inner-city districts, and yes, some will be isolated incidents with obscure details. But some will always happen in quiet little suburban neighbourhoods with tragic outcomes such as this. But what the fuck do I know? Very little evidently, but if you believe that it is a worthwhile trade-off to lose thousands of lives every year in return for the unrestricted right to own and carry a 9-millimetre semiautomatic handgun or an assault rifle, then I pity you and your backwards culture and train of thought. Oh, and tkioz, I hear that if you repeat your advice enough, then it will bring back the victims.

you are apparently unfamiliar with concealed carry laws as well purchasing laws of handguns. you cannot purchase pistols like your buying cookies. a 3 day waiting period is mandatory as well as local police and FBI background checks. not only that but you also have to register said firearms into ATF and HLS databases to be logged. your claim that thousands of lives lost to these firearms, did you take into account how many of those were illegal and smuggled. please also note the fully automatic weapons are extremely difficult to obtain, requiring permits that need to be updated yearly as well as more intensive background check required for hand guns.

hey, i also here if you get into more people faces and say shit to people like that last line, it makes you seem like less intolerant.

now i do respect your opinion in this matter as it is delicate, at least it was well put.

I think you're extrapolating rules of your state as indicative of the whole. I used to be a Tennessean with 10 guns and I never waited a mandatory three days for any of them, nor are any registered. Background checks are instant in many states. The only time I ever failed to walk out of a gun store with the gun I wanted the first day was a time I wanted a different grip and had to wait for the store to order one with the option I wanted. I'm on your side here, but whenever either side of a debate puts forth inaccurate information it just leaves holes for the other side to exploit in future arguments.

And yes, anti-gun people conveniently forget that fully automatic weapons have been severely restricted since 1934. What they call "assault rifles" as we all know are called that based on purely cosmetic features that have no bearing on the machine's function.

Im another European, what i can't understand is why sensible Gun ownerships laws like in thebackupfreaks state aren't copied across the board by every other state in the US like yours in Tennesse? Surely it would be to everyone's benefit if people across the board were checked up on or given at least some rudimentary lessons in gun ownership before walking out of the store with a weapon?

Read again. I didn't say there was no background check. I said the checks were instant. They scan your fingerprints and electronically submit your identification to the FBI instantly and get a result back. If you are a convicted felon, have been adjudicated mental defective, or are under a restraining order, you will not be sold a firearm.

That lets you buy a gun that you must transport unloaded if outside of your home. As in, gun in the trunk, ammunition in the glove compartment of the car. You may not carry that gun in a usable state without a Carry Permit.

A Carry Permit requires you to take a six hour safety course and go to a range where you must qualify with a handgun. You have to prove to the instructor's satisfaction that you can hit what you're aiming at reliably. Then you take the certificate of completion to the Department of Safety and pay an additional fee to get a Permit, which you will receive by post after yet more background checking. Interestingly enough in Tennessee it is a Carry Permit, not a Concealed Carry Permit, so anywhere you can carry a concealed weapon you can carry one openly. There's a whole laundry list of places you can't carry, too, including places where alcohol is served, on state or federal property, near schools, and anywhere the owners have posted a sign stating that patrons may not come armed. Mass shootings in the United States almost without exception take place in these "gun-free" zones, and I'll let you make of that what you wish.

So, yeah, even in TN we do have all those things. The only thing I would change to be more like other states would be to require additional safety courses every couple of years and to require people to qualify with the weapon they're going to carry. For example I qualified for my permit with a .22lr match pistol but my daily carry gun was a Walther PPK in .380.

 

[Lenoh]

Persona 3 FES was released to the Wii?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.179630-Child-Must-Have-Thought-a-Gun-Was-a-Wii-Remote-Mother-Says?page=11#5254100

I did the joke already

 

[Paragon Fury]

We don't even know if they own a wii.

According to sales number...everyone in the world owns a Wii.

A Wii and 1/2.

 

[Iron Mal]

...you can cite 'self defense' all you want but then we should remember that you've still killed someone, you're just as bad as your 'attacker' even though you may not have intended it).

After you said this I realized that I was talking to such an idealistic pacifist you can't possibly qualify as a rational human being to me. If you think a woman shooting an attempted rapist or a father protecting his family from home invaders is morally equivalent to murder, we have nothing to discuss.

Simply saying that you have nothing to discuss doesn't answer any of my counter arguements and doesn't make you correct (also, who are you to judge who is a rational human being and who isn't? Is it wrong that I think that we should try to avoid killing altogether where we can? From my perspective it is you who is being irrational here).

I have no problem with the notion of self defense, by all means, fight as hard as you have to to protect yourself and your friends/family. The bit I do have a problem with is the use of lethal force (i.e: shooting someone), the first response to every violent situation the world can throw at you should not be the shoot the other guy in the face.

If lethal force is justified in this fashion then not only does this cheapen life but it will only result in unnessercary deaths, I remember the case of a man in the US who noticed a young man breaking into the home next door (they weren't in at the time so no-one was at risk), naturally, he called the police and was instructed on fourteen occasions to stay inside and not confront the individual yet he still picked up a firearm, walked out and shot the thief in the back (killing him). It's weird how we find it barbaric that some countries punish theft by cutting off the criminal's hand(s) yet we believe it is acceptable and justified to kill them outright in the name of defense.

Also, the case of a family who were quad biking in some woods (this is again in the US) stopped quickly because one of the children needed to 'relieve themselves'. Fair enough, they're not doing anything wrong. Unfortuneatly, they made the mistake of stopping on land owned by a couple who noticed their 'intrusion' and shot one of the children in the back of the head (obviously killing him). Did this child deserve to die? Of course not, yet the land owners still believed that they were defending themselves from possible intruders.

Like I said, there is nothing wrong with defending yourself and I can understand why firearms are a popular tool for self defense, but there are far too many cases of innocent or otherwise undeserving individuals getting caught on the recieving end of a gun for one reason or another.

 

[duchaked]

Spoiler

[HEADING=1]Gun[/HEADING]

[HEADING=1]Wii Remote in Zapper[/HEADING]

I think that she saw something interesting, had no clue what a gun was, and started playing with it. But not as a Wiimote.

Also, before we get to the usual, and often deserved, Fox News bashing. Click the Fox News link. Fox News ITSELF isn't claiming this. Just the stupid mother.

PPS, to the mother:

hahahaha you're hilarious
and yeah, even Fox News is like okay wtf lady

I mean I know initially the idea is actually more to be like "haha oh the Wii" but after some more thought...
why do kids always point the gun at themselves if it was my kid who got shot (under any circumstance) I think I'd do more than be like "gee it was the Wii" (unless her method of coping with the loss was to shift the blame off herself)

 

[Oinodaemon]

PUT THE MOTHER IN JAIL!!! If that idiot woman isn't intelligent enough to move the fuckin gun (or at least take it away) then she needs to be in jail.

 

[Space Cowgirl]

Wow... Once more I'm struck about speechless at the stupidity of humanity. Gees, the Wiimote zapper doesn't even remotely look like a regular gun. Besides, I believe the parents are to blame with this one, not videogames. I mean seriously; who leaves a loaded gun lying around with a three-year-old in the house? Idiots, that's who. I mean three-year-olds aren't exactly Einsteins.

 

[Hayate_GT]

epic parenting PHail...then tries to blame Shigeru Miyamoto...

 

[GaldapJunior]

im laughing myself to death at the stupidity of people.wait wait heres another one. "My daughter plays with baby dolls. that is why she ripped off that babys head. toys are to blame. definitely not the fact im a horrible mother that let her do it in the room with me." that should be the next bullshit story