Children were separated from their parents at the border, US unable to find their parents, are they among those killed who were deported from the US?

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Not only has the US lost immigrant children in the US foster system and sent them to human traffickers, The US is now also unable to find hundreds of children's parents that they separated at the border. Many immigrants were killed after being deported from the US, are their parents among those killed?

"Lawyers say they can't find the parents of 545 migrant children separated by Trump administration
About two-thirds of the 1,000-plus parents separated from their kids under a 2017 pilot program were deported before a federal judge ordered that they be found."

 

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I like the idea of doing a pilot program, losing parents for 500+ kids and then saying, ā€œWell that was successful. Time to scale it up.ā€

I also enjoy how locking up everyone lead to 300+ kids going missing. People are being PAID to lock them up still and no one questions if they are capable of actually doing that. Whatā€™s the loss rate of prisoners in a normal prison?
 
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I often think about the future.

What are we going to say to children, to anyone who asks what the hell happened these four years.

I can't find any excuse as to why everything had to happen in this fashion. Even if I was FOR the ejections of these people from this country, I would not want it to have been handled in this way. No part of it should anyone be proud of, and if you are, I implore you to talk to professionals.
 

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How does this even happen when we have modern technology? How can't the US government log and track people it takes into custody? I might understand if this was all run of some paper files hidden away in an archive somewhere, but the computer exists.

The line goes that we should assume incompetence over malice, but this doesn't seem like something that can be explained by incompetence, you'd have to show a scary disregard for other people in order to end up in a situation like this.
 

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How does this even happen when we have modern technology? How can't the US government log and track people it takes into custody? I might understand if this was all run of some paper files hidden away in an archive somewhere, but the computer exists.

The line goes that we should assume incompetence over malice, but this doesn't seem like something that can be explained by incompetence, you'd have to show a scary disregard for other people in order to end up in a situation like this.
Iā€™d point to Obamacare website. What was the Trump website that failed too? Technology and the US government donā€™t mix well.
 

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Iā€™d point to Obamacare website. What was the Trump website that failed too? Technology and the US government donā€™t mix well.
But this isn't even about conveying information or interacting with varied userbase across different platforms. It is literally just gathering, sorting, and archiving data. You could do it in a frigging Excel sheet if you wanted.
 

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But this isn't even about conveying information or interacting with varied userbase across different platforms. It is literally just gathering, sorting, and archiving data. You could do it in a frigging Excel sheet if you wanted.
I think youā€™re really over estimating their abilities
 

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I often think about the future.

What are we going to say to children, to anyone who asks what the hell happened these four years.

I can't find any excuse as to why everything had to happen in this fashion. Even if I was FOR the ejections of these people from this country, I would not want it to have been handled in this way. No part of it should anyone be proud of, and if you are, I implore you to talk to professionals.
I keep saying that future generations are going to see us a backwater savages on par with the medieval people.
 
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I think youā€™re really over estimating their abilities
They could actually have professionals create these things for them, but that would be too much effort?
 

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I keep saying that future generations are going to see us a backwater savages on par with the medieval people.
But you canā€™t judge people from previous periods based on our current morality. That would be unfair!
 

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But this isn't even about conveying information or interacting with varied userbase across different platforms. It is literally just gathering, sorting, and archiving data. You could do it in a frigging Excel sheet if you wanted.
Ok, this shouldn't be complicated, but looking at how the UK has had fun with Excel recently...
 
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And people wonder why I've lost all hope that the system can achieve anything remotely good, these people are destroying families, they're violating human rights and what for, exactly?
What exactly is the crime in immigration?
Just looking for a better life because people are losing their jobs and houses because Capitalism is literally leaving them without fucking water to drink, leaving their land unliveable, then they go to another country looking for a better life, but they are treated like second class citizens specifically so that they can be paid less, allowing for negotiating lower wages for all citizens, not just the illegal immigrants, and then the immigrants get blamed for it even though the ones that are screwing over the people are the corporations and the government that helped them criminalise those people, what a joke.

Anyways, fuck Trump making ICE even worse than it already was, I know Obama & Biden are also responsible for this mess, so fuck them too, I hear some of the libs claim to want the same thing as socialists, if that's true I expect you to not remain quiet about the undoubtedly shitty half-measure Biden is most definitely going to try to take if he wins and protest his shitty policies, if you don't stop claiming you actually want to solve the problems, because it's clear that you don't.

Like sorry if I seem like an ass, but this is literally about my people being locked up in literal concentration camps, I have 0 tolerance for this bullshit.
 
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And people wonder what I've lost all hope that the system can achieve anything remotely good, these people are destroying families, they're violating human rights and what for, exactly?
What exactly is the crime in immigration?
Just looking for a better life because people are losing their jobs and houses because Capitalism is literally leaving them without fucking water to drink, leaving their land unliveable, then they go to another country looking for a better life, but they are treated like second citizens specifically so that they can be paid less, allowing for negotiating lower wages for all citizens, not just the illegal immigrants, and then the immigrants get blamed for it even though the ones that are screwing over the people are the corporations and the government that helped them make those people second class citizens, what a joke.

Anyways, fuck Trump making ICE even worse than it already was, I know Obama & Biden are also responsible for this mess, so fuck them too, I hear some of libs claim to want the same thing as socialists, if that's true I expect you to not remain quiet about the undoubtedly shitty half-measure Biden is most definitely try to take if he wins and protest his shitty policies, if you don't stop claiming you actually want to solve the problems, because it's clear that you don't.

Like sorry if I seem like an ass, but this is literally about my people being locked up in literal concentration camps, I have 0 tolerance for this bullshit.
Apparently all that's needed are reforms and the system can work as intended.

We can only hope they reform it out of existence.
 
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But this isn't even about conveying information or interacting with varied userbase across different platforms. It is literally just gathering, sorting, and archiving data. You could do it in a frigging Excel sheet if you wanted.
Yes you can, but most definitely should not.
 

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But this isn't even about conveying information or interacting with varied userbase across different platforms. It is literally just gathering, sorting, and archiving data. You could do it in a frigging Excel sheet if you wanted.
No don't use Excel, our government tried to track coronavirus cases in Excel and 16000 cases went unreported because the file's maximum width was exceeded.
 
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No don't use Excel, our government tried to track coronavirus cases in Excel and 16000 cases went unreported because the file's maximum width was exceeded.
Of course you shouldn't use Excel, rather my point was that it seems that not even the smallest effort was made to keep track of these people.