And there's the problem the old concepts of 3D and wireless motion control that lay within the Power Glove and the Virtual Boy were going to be ill received from the very beginning and today with the concept improved slightly the products are still not as well received as they were back then.Logan Westbrook said:
CliffyB Sticks Up for the Wii U
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Heeeeeeeeeey,ReservoirAngel said:
As a 'hardcore' prick on the internet, I resent that assessment! Maybe if Nintendo didn't use the same name and 75% of the internal organs of its predecessor consoles, we wouldn't have to judge them like that...
For the record, my hatred of the WiiU has nothing to do with the Wii! I hated on the Wii for entirely different reasons. With so many NEW reasons to hate WiiU, there's no need to be creatively bankrupt and fall back on old hat.
... well, alright, fine. I'm bringing the "two gamecubes duct taped together" joke with me into the future. Now it will be FOUR gamecubes. But that's IT.
The same people who claimed the DS and the Wii wouldn't sell because it's some gimmick rather than 'real tech' are the same people claiming the WiiU is the same thing now.
They were also wrong about how popular these devices would be, and how much they changed gaming. Now touchscreens are going onto the PSP and motion controls are going into the PS3 and the XBox.
Also, Nintendo won this console war, and this handheld war, through greater sales.
CliffyB is right. The naysayers don't know jack or shit.
They were also wrong about how popular these devices would be, and how much they changed gaming. Now touchscreens are going onto the PSP and motion controls are going into the PS3 and the XBox.
Also, Nintendo won this console war, and this handheld war, through greater sales.
CliffyB is right. The naysayers don't know jack or shit.
The Wii U isn't BAD, it's jut 6-7 years too late, if there was no "Wii" and they had this as the "Wii" it'd be amazing, it'd the the best out of the 3 hands down. But not now, now it's a complete waste of time, Nintendo actually had a "hardcore" audience to an extent before the Wii, hell the Gamecube got TimeSplitters and we all know that's the best game in history... but no, Nintendo basically dropped a turd out the window on it's core audience when they produced their reskinned gamecube and expect to win over the world with this? we'll say the same specs as the PS3 and 360 with an extra pointless screen and imprecise Wii controls? WE ALREADY HAVE CONSOLES TO DO "HARDCORE GAMING" ON...
So a console capable of new gaming experiences not capable with any existing console outside of a handheld is out of touch eh?
Hmmm. You must exist in a world without the Move and Kinect. Cause those things are capitalizing on the Wii.
Nintendo is right to move on to something new at this point... now that the competitors have seen the money its making, it's on to find new money by making new gaming experiences.
I don't see how anyone can claim Nintendo is copying Sony and Microsoft in this. They're not even playing catchup... they're doing their own thing. Oh, and the technology is cheaper too. Awesome.
And face it, the Wii was the Nickleback of consoles; sure everyone says they sucked, but SOMEONE was buying all those albums.
Hmmm. You must exist in a world without the Move and Kinect. Cause those things are capitalizing on the Wii.
Nintendo is right to move on to something new at this point... now that the competitors have seen the money its making, it's on to find new money by making new gaming experiences.
I don't see how anyone can claim Nintendo is copying Sony and Microsoft in this. They're not even playing catchup... they're doing their own thing. Oh, and the technology is cheaper too. Awesome.
And face it, the Wii was the Nickleback of consoles; sure everyone says they sucked, but SOMEONE was buying all those albums.
The DS, if I recall, came out already. The Vita isn't out yet.OutrageousEmu said:
And as for screen on controller action, even if you're not counting the dreamcast... that happened with a few games that connected the Gameboy Advance with the Gamecube.
So... again, what is this 'following' thing you're talking about? Seems the Vita is copying the DS, except instead of dual screens and one touch, it's dual touch and one screen.
But that's okay, it's got a mic and a camera? Those aren't in the DS and DSi are they?
The only thing the Vita has that's really new is the GPS.
Good point, the Vita total invented analog control. I'll just hide this Nintendo 64 controller over here. You know, the one with the rumble pack addon... that came out before the dualshock, or the dualanalog that predated the dualshock.OutrageousEmu said:
Again, what, EXACTLY, did the Vita do that was new again?
They said the exact same thing about the Wii before it came out, how it would be eclipsed technologically by the other consoles. Its sales are declining, yes. It's also still in the lead for total sales.
I don't know what universe you come from where the Wii did terrible, because in THIS one... it was a cash cow for Nintendo.
I don't know what universe you come from where the Wii did terrible, because in THIS one... it was a cash cow for Nintendo.
I've seen the TRS-80 and the old PC controllers. I know my gaming history here.OutrageousEmu said:
The point is, claiming Nintendo is following the leader, while the 'leader' is starting to put in technology that Nintendo did last generation is disingenuous at best. Nintendo is going to try to produce new gaming experiences. Whether it succeeds or fails should be decided on -those- merits, not on the merits of armchair pundits who just happened to be WRONG as hell last time Nintendo stepped to the plate.
This isn't even me defending the Wii, or the DS, or any other console. It's me looking at history, and noticing that this time around, Nintendo made the history by taking what seemed to be a fail (Gamecube grafx zomg fail) and turning it into a success (cheaper to produce, cheaper price, new controls, so much lower barrier to entry).
The Wii was successful for many reasons, the WiiMote being a small piece of that success story. The WiiU is going to be poised to leverage a lot of those same reasons, but in a different manner. Anyone who claims Nintendo is out of the race is ignorant of how this race works.
I think that it's pretty foolish to come out and say that the people who are badmouthing the WiiU are going to go out and buy it. I think that there will be quite a few who do go out and buy it after they've dismissed it, but I imagine the majority won't.
Personally, I think that Nintendo have been very savvy with this new system. They created the Wii to draw in the 'casual' crowd, which they managed extremely well. The way I see it, they're banking on a large number of that market buying the WiiU because they liked the Wii, but Nintendo are also marketing the WiiU to 'hardcore' players as well, who they're trying to draw in with improved hardware and third-party support.
EDIT: Having said that, I'm not sure that Nintendo will actually draw the 'hardcore' crowd back in, they may have burned their bridges there. Couple that with the fact that the WiiU will not be next-gen, and the rumouurs about new Sony and Microsoft systems may be enough to damage potential WiiU sales.
Personally, I think that Nintendo have been very savvy with this new system. They created the Wii to draw in the 'casual' crowd, which they managed extremely well. The way I see it, they're banking on a large number of that market buying the WiiU because they liked the Wii, but Nintendo are also marketing the WiiU to 'hardcore' players as well, who they're trying to draw in with improved hardware and third-party support.
EDIT: Having said that, I'm not sure that Nintendo will actually draw the 'hardcore' crowd back in, they may have burned their bridges there. Couple that with the fact that the WiiU will not be next-gen, and the rumouurs about new Sony and Microsoft systems may be enough to damage potential WiiU sales.