- Apr 8, 2010
I can understand your sentiment. Were we discussing euthanasia I might well express something similar. But we aren't. We're talking about depression and that complicates things a bit.TehCookie said:Well I changed it but I don't see what's wrong with people killing themselves, it's their choice.
The fact is, clinical depression is the mother of all spanners in the works when it comes to suicide. Simply put, it severely damages (if not outright destroys) your ability to make a reasoned, rational decision on that subject. The depressed are very, very, bad when it comes to matters of their own self-worth and the worth of their future because the mental illness tends to hit those area of the mind and hits them hard*. Basically, there is something wrong with their minds that pushes them further towards self-sabotage and self-destruction. Like there's a shadow in your head needling you about whether it's worth getting up. Little thoughts that crop-up every now and then. Thoughts that really, everyone would just be better off if you weren't there. Thoughts you can't seem to quite get rid of despite what should be obvious evidence to disprove them. That is really not the mindset to be in when making choices about whether or not to die.
In some cases though suicide can feel less like a choice and more of like active compulsion. Like something pulling at you, the thought the thought that you should really be making plans to end your own always fluttering around the back of your mind. Where everything said to has 'by the way, you should kill yourself' added to it by your brain. Times when the choice isn't 'should I kill myself' but 'is it worth trying to fight the urge?'. I've had that fight before. I haven't always won it.
So, thank you for editing your post. I'll be removing it from my quote of you presently. While I may not be able to tell what the 'correct' state of mind is, I can pretty safely say that those headspaces I've described definitely aren't it, and people in those sort of spaces are likely to be drawn to this sort of thread.
*based on personal experience and what I've seen from others, depression isn't so much characterised by sadness as it is by despair and self-loathing. That's not to say depressed people aren't sad a lot, they often are, but thinking about it in terms of sadness can often give non-depressed types the wrong impression, often leading to the lines of 'just man-up and get over it' and 'but lots of people get sad and they manage' which most depressed people have thrown their way.