Columnist Links Games to Acceptance of Torture
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They were all fairly barbaric, but more than one comparison might have been overkill.The_root_of_all_evil said:
The army does not train people to associate violence and pleasure - people who join the army tend to already do that, the army tries to turn it into something useful and controlled.
And 'waterboarding' exists because people wanted answers from tight-lipped POWs and some CIA guys thought it would get around that whole Geneva Convention thing because nobody actually touched anybody. It's just water, right?
Okay, Miss I-Know-Everything-Ever-Because-I-Is-So-Smart-And-I-Write-Stuff, how can you find throwing a big black ball at those little white pins and kill them like that relaxing, HMM? How can you find all those times you assaulted those baseballs with that bat in Wii Sports, EHH?!
Oh, wants that you say, those things aren't real? That it doesn't count as violence because those things aren't real/aren't alive?
WELL NEITHER IS ANYTHING ELSE IN VIDEO GAMES YOU STUPID MOOSE!!!!!
Great, now I'm experiencing rage of the Brooklyn variety.
Also, what the hell is the "'G' Rated Wii"? I didn't know game consoles came with movie ratings on them.
War.
War.
PETA.
See, none of those have to deal with video games! If she had said "Bombing some Dodongos" I would have said "Link."
.........I think this woman might actually be insane.
It's ridiculous to blame video games for violence. If a person is unable to distinguish between pixellated fantasy violence and real world violence, losing the video games won't do a damn thing for them. They need professional help instead. If you want to blame video games for destroying the social lives of awkward teens and young adults, then maybe we can talk. Maybe. Acceptance of torture and grotesque violence? Give me a break. I have played Grand Theft Auto, Fallout, Burnout 3 (which not only involves street racing, it encourages you to pile drive your opponents into the walls in the process), countless bloody and gory FPSes, dozens of fighting games, and god only knows what else that I can't think of right now. Guess what? I still find torture to be morally reprehensible, I resolve my disputes with people through discussion and debate rather than with a gun or a chainsaw, and if I want a new car, I save up and buy it rather than hijack some random passerby, and when I do get one, I don't go racing other maniacs and deliberately causing mass havoc. Game, set, match. So Kari Henley: SHUT UP ALREADY!
The fact that she's completely overlooking is that it's mostly the older generation that supports torture. I.E. non gamers.
Ahhhh, Miss Thompson, kindly inform yourself on the number of gamers who LIKE torture and murder, it's a minority.
That's not my theory, that's his. He believes games are similar to the training tools used by the Army to get people to kill each other. Also has a whole seminar on "Killology", just in case you're interested.cobrausn said:
I don't believe the CIA was around back in 1926, when one of the first recorded cases had the judge called it "inhuman torture".(Water Cure)
I'm scarred more by the covers of some horror movies than the few violent games I play-
Anyway, aren't most video games focusing on how to be as efficient as possible when there is a killing-type scenario? I'm not gonna bother torturing an elite, I'd rather use a sniper rifle and watch their entirely in-tact body fall, with perhaps a few offhand bright, blue puddles around.
I am an easily disturbed person. I feel bad about disposing of spiders I find in my home during Winter- my method of "disposal" means putting them outside. I know its their natural habitat, but wouldn't they freeze?
Oh, and while I'm at it, I'll pull a PETA here and point out that she herself is prolly tolerating the torture of the animals she eats.
Anyway, aren't most video games focusing on how to be as efficient as possible when there is a killing-type scenario? I'm not gonna bother torturing an elite, I'd rather use a sniper rifle and watch their entirely in-tact body fall, with perhaps a few offhand bright, blue puddles around.
I am an easily disturbed person. I feel bad about disposing of spiders I find in my home during Winter- my method of "disposal" means putting them outside. I know its their natural habitat, but wouldn't they freeze?
Oh, and while I'm at it, I'll pull a PETA here and point out that she herself is prolly tolerating the torture of the animals she eats.
She obviously hasn't played No More Heros. Not all games are run and shoot. Their is story like Mass Effect.
I don't recall "Press X to torture" being a feature in GTA. Must be hidden somewhere in the DLC.
Anywho, this woman is a right *****! WoW encourages torture?! WTF?! And the coliseum?!?! WE AREN'T THROWING PEOPLE TO LIONS!
I never thought I'd miss Jack Thompson - at least he had the comment decently to make his foaming-mouth rants sound as crazy as they where.
Anywho, this woman is a right *****! WoW encourages torture?! WTF?! And the coliseum?!?! WE AREN'T THROWING PEOPLE TO LIONS!
I never thought I'd miss Jack Thompson - at least he had the comment decently to make his foaming-mouth rants sound as crazy as they where.
The "Huff Po" is full of this BS. From Homoeopathy to "Antibiotics cause cancer!!!" shit. Don't be shocked.
Well at least she's not only talking about video games, but blames the entire media. Most of the critics just tend to blame the relative new kid on the block e.g. video games. And I do agree with her point that we are somewhat being desensitized by all the violence in the media. Thus the threshold for accepting violence in other ways is lowered too.
Still, I bet this is some way for her to gain publicity by hopping on the bandwagon of game haters. She doesn't seem to much informed, and the examples she gave weren't all to convincing.
Funny, when I saw the article title, I thought it would be about WoW players grinding to gain levels, e.g. undergoing torture with games. Would have been funny, and further justified my abstinence from the bloody game.
Still, I bet this is some way for her to gain publicity by hopping on the bandwagon of game haters. She doesn't seem to much informed, and the examples she gave weren't all to convincing.
Funny, when I saw the article title, I thought it would be about WoW players grinding to gain levels, e.g. undergoing torture with games. Would have been funny, and further justified my abstinence from the bloody game.
Another sad example that anybody can get away with 5 minutes worth of research and call it journalism. She seems to neglect the fact that the one person who allowed torture is also the least popular ex-president. Instead it's all our faults since we have been exposed to violent media. Oh well, she will either not do anything else and fade away, or piss off the wrong editor and not have anything published except on Fox or in tabloids.
Objection! If you come with outragous claims, then present evidence to back it up! I don't support torture unless it is in the most extreme cases, that is if the information that you want to retrieve will save human lives or prevent a weapon of mass destruction from detonating/exploding/activating.
She does not understand the appeal of these games, ergo she does not understand anything about them. The point of World of Warcraft is to develop a character and interact with other people's characters, the point of GTA is to do whatever you feel like doing. People all over the world have thought that torture is sometimes justified since before the radio was invented. How could video games have anything to do with that? More importantly, why does anyone still care what these people think? They have make their ignorance manifest with their every word and every action.